Who's the bigger gimp?

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Hot Rod
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Rodimus Prime
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Who's the bigger gimp?

Post by bobaprime85 » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:18 pm

I'm in the mood for some lighthearted Roddy bashing. Anyone else? I promise it's going to be fun.

Anyway, which of these, er, 'two' losers proved to be the bigger gimp? Was it the idiot who got Prime killed or the idiot who whined a lot while playing leader?


*Waits patiently for sarcastic "but they're the same person!" remark.*

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Post by Best First » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:21 pm

too hard to call
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Post by Señior's Covenant » Tue Mar 08, 2005 10:45 pm

Best First wrote:too hard to call
Said the pron-watching Best First to himself in regards to calling his mother for her weekly 'update-from-son'.
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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:47 pm

Roddy because he always doubted himself - wheres hotrod was brash but at least he belived in his actions
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Re: Who's the bigger gimp?

Post by Denyer » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:49 pm

bobaprime85 wrote:Waits patiently for sarcastic "but they're the same person!" remark.
Are they? What effect does the matrix have on a bearer? At the very least, it appears to be sentient.

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Post by spiderfrommars » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:50 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Roddy because he always doubted himself - wheres hotrod was brash but at least he belived in his actions
Nicely put Imps!

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Post by bobaprime85 » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:58 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Roddy because he always doubted himself - wheres hotrod was brash but at least he belived in his actions
Like getting Op killed....


As for the issue of the Matrix and its influence, it seems that the Matrix (tying into the sentience idea) had to take a direct measure to place Roddy in a mode where he could realistically take control of the Autobots. But it also seems as if it just gave Hot Rod some platform shoes and the ability to whine incessantly. So basically.... I have no idea.

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Post by spiderfrommars » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:02 am

I think of them as 2 characters, same way I think of Megs and Galvy. Of course Roddy was transformed by Primus, and Galvy by Unicron.

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Post by Ozz » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:24 am

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bobaprime85 wrote:Like getting Op killed....
Op got Op killed. He should have shot Meggy right away, not chatter with him. ;)

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Post by Snowcat » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:43 am

Hot Rod. Whiny, brash, annoying, and liked Daniel.

`Nuff said.
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Post by Optimus Prime Rib » Wed Mar 09, 2005 6:18 am

I like how Roddy got his head blown off by Galvatron, thus ending the reign of suck.
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Post by Emperor_Starscream » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:03 am

rodimus doubtless...beacause as hot rod he was stupid but if he is stupid in battle only he dies (with his superiors when them try to clean his mess) but as rodimus he is the leader of the autobots and his stupid actions can cost the lives of his troops :x

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Post by Best First » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:07 pm

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Best First wrote:too hard to call
Said the pron-watching Best First to himself in regards to calling his mother for her weekly 'update-from-son'.
worrying...

Impy's argeuemtn wins it i think.
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Post by Brendocon » Wed Mar 09, 2005 1:20 pm

Fangry.

Wait... didn't read the options... oh, bugger it. Fangry.
Grrr. Argh.

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Post by Optimus Prime Rib » Wed Mar 09, 2005 3:31 pm

Hot Fangrious Prime?
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Post by Blacksword » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:52 pm

As to Hot Rod you have to specify which Hot Rod. Movie Future Hot Rod didn't seem to have much fighting experience and was just generally niave.

Back in the main timeline Hot Rod spent a lot more time in the front lines and By G2 he was still somewhat rash but much more seasoned and less annoying.

As a side note has anyone else noticed how in the later issues of G1 and into G2 Prime tended to keep Hot Rod close at hand? Me thinks Prime knowing who the Matrix will choose if he buys it wants to make sure Roddy gets a proper education this time around. ;)
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Post by Shanti418 » Wed Mar 09, 2005 8:32 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Roddy because he always doubted himself - wheres hotrod was brash but at least he belived in his actions
So in other words, if you would have had a chance, you would have voted for Bush. :lol:

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Post by Legion » Thu Mar 10, 2005 1:14 am

Ozz wrote:
bobaprime85 wrote:Like getting Op killed....
Op got Op killed. He should have shot Meggy right away, not chatter with him. ;)
Wasn't that what he was about to do when HotRod jumped in?

anyway...

Rodimus was a gimp.
HotRod was just a ****.

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Thu Mar 10, 2005 8:14 am

Best First wrote:
worrying...

Impy's argeuemtn wins it i think.

And thus Time Wars begins... :eek:

I like the idea of OP keeping Hotrod close by his side in case somthing happens. - Or perhaps he knew that Unicron was comming EoE and was gonna use him as TF shield because the matrix told that in another life, Hotrod got you killed!

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Post by bobaprime85 » Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:37 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote: I like the idea of OP keeping Hotrod close by his side in case somthing happens. - Or perhaps he knew that Unicron was comming EoE and was gonna use him as TF shield because the matrix told that in another life, Hotrod got you killed!
Hmm... Matrix-charged precognition aside, it does make sense that Prime would keep Roddy close, especially after Time Wars. But then again, I always got the impression that Prime was putting more effort into smoothing over Grimlock's edges in order to make the Dinobot an effective Autobot leader. Ah well, might as well have a back-up just in case, one supposes.

Of course, using Roddy as a TF shield would be pure brilliance and an example of karmic payback.

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Post by Metal Vendetta » Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:09 pm

Who's the bigger gimp?

Well, Rodimus.




Because he's bigger.
I would have waited a ******* eternity for this!!!!
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Post by Denyer » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:50 am

bobaprime85 wrote:I always got the impression that Prime was putting more effort into smoothing over Grimlock's edges in order to make the Dinobot an effective Autobot leader. Ah well, might as well have a back-up just in case, one supposes.
At the time he didn't have the matrix.

(As an aside, the matrix Prime has in G2 doesn't seem to be the one he flew into Unicron with. A creation of the Last Autobot?)

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Post by Best First » Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:41 am

Last Autiobot seems the obvious choice.

Given thatthe matrix seems to be energy the idea of it being reformed seems reasonasble.

in a far out sci fi kind of way.
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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Fri Mar 11, 2005 1:14 pm

they should have re-formatted the matrix itself into an actually transformer.

He would intensely powerfull and at the same time a bit detached from the world.

he would also be neither decepticon or autobot, but would prolly follow OP about, as he feels a special link.

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Post by Best First » Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:06 pm

i hate that idea so much. :)
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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Fri Mar 11, 2005 2:47 pm

it worked for Magneto...

honestly tho - whats the last Autobot then?
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Post by Legion » Fri Mar 11, 2005 4:05 pm

The Last Autobot was the leftovers of Primus after he created Cybertron, the Matrix and the first batch of TFs... big robot dude that lived in cybertron, he turned HiQ into Prime (bum deal that one) in the last issue?

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:20 pm

the last autobot has the power of creation, is this a robot version of the matrix.

If Primus is God
Last Atuo is Jesus
The matrix? erm the bible?

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Post by spiderfrommars » Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:21 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:
If Primus is God
Last Atuo is Jesus
The matrix? erm the bible?
Ark of the Covenant.

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Post by The Last Autobot » Fri Mar 11, 2005 5:40 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:the last autobot has the power of creation, is this a robot version of the matrix.

If Primus is God
Last Autobot is Jesus
The matrix? erm the bible?

shoot me...
I like the idea :D

Optimus Prime is the biggest gimp of all. Rodimus was leader for too little time so he was adjusting to his new reality, On the other hand Optimus was leader for a heck lot of time and made a lot of mistakes. I think he just wants to keep the war going on, otherwise he wouldnt have job or hold his “messiah status” in a peaceful Cybertron
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