Whatever happened to...

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 6:46 am

I too am felling the comic withdrawal symptoms... So until anything comes out, how about a little Q&A from the old Marvel era?

What do you think has happened to these characters?

(And the first one who says 'they went and raised a Mechannibal and two Scraplets' gets an energo-sword in the butt...

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1. Circuit-Breaker? Did she ever recover from the coma? Whaddaya think?

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:24 am

GRRRR!

This is a re-post the board is cocking around with me.

I think there was a possibility of her recovery, as Blackrock no doubt gave her the best treatment that money could buy.

When a certain someone blew up San Fransisco might have made her catatonic once more tho.

Might have made for an interesting G2 story, if Josy was present in San Fran upon it's destruction and was one of the few survivors. But instead of going catatonic or into her ussual psycotically insane state, she instead goes cold, and uses that scientific mind of hers to acctually contact the autobots and discern the existence of G2 TF's, and creates a new battlesuit, this one made up of cybertronian technology. (Stolen of course)

especially atuned to disrupt G2 cybertronians cirkuits, Cirkuit Breaker is back, deadlier and more powerful than ever.

Post by **Best First** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:40 am

did the neo knights even get back to earth?

if so - who took them? And why didn't whoever took them try and find the Ark and the lost souls on board? eh?

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:50 am

Prime's final speech in G1 mentions his intention to take the Neo Knights back to Earth.

I think the Circuit Breaker thing is the biggest loose thread left dangling at the end of the G1 comic. If G2 had carried on I suppose she would have cropped up at some point. Not that anyone was clamouring for her return, though it would have been nice to know what happened to her.

If I was to theorise what happened to her, I suppose the most likely outcome was that she eventually recovered fully but continued to hate robos with a passion.

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 4:31 pm

Here's some I've been thinking about

1. Did Shockwave really die in Legacy of Unicron? It could have been a clone when you consider that Shockers got some knowledge of the future at some point (even if that alternate was erased during Timewars).

2. Did the Galvatron from Timewars realise that he was actually Straxus? The Megatron in that story was indeed the Straxus clone, could it be that he eventually would have become Galvatron?

3. What happened to the Last Autobot? He certainly wasn't around during G2.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:50 pm

Wasn't Shockwave still alive near the end of the Marvel run though? Maybe I just need to reread what UK material I have access to.

One would assume the Last Autobot simply went back to the depths of Cybertron to maintain the, er, okay I have no idea. But I would love to hear other thoughts on that one, including your own Stormwolf.

Oh, and in regards to the Time Wars Galvatron/Straxus/Megatron/Clone-deal, does the story imply that it was destined to be the clone Megatron becoming Galvatron? [/he asks for the umpteenth time just for the heck of it/in spite of receiving an answer prior times, every time]

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:25 pm

What if the Last Autobot "refilled the Matrix" with his own energy and ceased to exist? Or maybe he returned to Cybertron s depths.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:43 pm

Stormwolf wrote:Here's some I've been thinking about

1. Did Shockwave really die in Legacy of Unicron? It could have been a clone when you consider that Shockers got some knowledge of the future at some point (even if that alternate was erased during Timewars).

2. Did the Galvatron from Timewars realise that he was actually Straxus? The Megatron in that story was indeed the Straxus clone, could it be that he eventually would have become Galvatron?

3. What happened to the Last Autobot? He certainly wasn't around during G2.

Señior's Covenant wrote:Wasn't Shockwave still alive near the end of the Marvel run though? Maybe I just need to reread what UK material I have access to.

One would assume the Last Autobot simply went back to the depths of Cybertron to maintain the, er, okay I have no idea. But I would love to hear other thoughts on that one, including your own Stormwolf.

Oh, and in regards to the Time Wars Galvatron/Straxus/Megatron/Clone-deal, does the story imply that it was destined to be the clone Megatron becoming Galvatron? [/he asks for the umpteenth time just for the heck of it/in spite of receiving an answer prior times, every time]

Hmm...

The Shockwave who learns of future history is not the ancestor of the Shockwave who dies in that future, as Target:2006 is a point of divergence and both these events occur after that point, but in different timelines. Therefore, the Shockwave that dies in Legacy does not know that he is destined to die. However, the Shockwave that does know may well have experienced a version of Legacy in the timeline that Roddy & co return to. The Shockwave that's onboard the Ark when Ratchet crashes it, however, does not.

The Straxatron clone was created post-T2006 and therefore it is uncertain whether or not a counterpart existed in the Legacy timeline. In any case, given that there were two Megatrons walking around, I doubt that any post-Time Wars timeline would lack their eventual encounter, with the inevitable result.

As to the Last Autobot, wasn't he only there to oversee the restructuring of Cybertron. Once his duties were dispensed, he probably introduced Oppy to the priests (or vice versa) then returned to his subterranean retreat.

Or went on a long, long sight-seeing tour of the universe.

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 8:59 pm

I personally looked at it like this;

We already know that the future can be altered and that nothing is destined (well atleast according to Timewars and BW). Legacy of Unicron Shockwave possibly didn't meet Cyclonus and Scourge in his past, but Timewars Shockwave did.

Now let's consider that disruptions in time caused during the Timewars did indeed take place before Legacy of Unicron. Timewars Shockwave and Legacy of Unicron Shockwave would have indeed been the same person and he would have remembered.

And for some more confusion, Shockwave didn't know about his death the "first" time when Legacy of Unicron happend. However this incident could have happend again after Timewars and things could have been slightly different. However Shockwave could have prepared for this eventuality.

Alternate dimesions are after all possible in the TF universe, just look at Rhythems of Darkness.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:58 pm

So, you're saying that second time around, the events of Legacy happen differently, with Shockwave now aware of what might happen, while first time around, he had no knowledge. You also mention the possibility of alternate universes, which can also be called parallel timelines.

Which is what I said.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 10:36 pm

My head hurts.

As ussual when the subject of the UK-timelines are discussed.

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 11:12 pm

Rebis wrote:So, you're saying that second time around, the events of Legacy happen differently, with Shockwave now aware of what might happen, while first time around, he had no knowledge. You also mention the possibility of alternate universes, which can also be called parallel timelines.

Which is what I said.

Whoops, didn't read your post that well, must be the beer I think.

But you're right.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:00 am

I started thinking about a fanfic where Shockers does hire DH to kill Cyclonus and Scourge for him, and LOU takes place at the exact like before, because those two braggarts told Shockwave THEY will kill him in the future...while in thruth DH did!

So you see, the future cannot be altered, as Shockwave finds out... "Oh bummer. "

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:34 pm

Good one.

It bugged me a bit that Cyclonus and Scourge took credit for Shockwave's death, but then they always were full of themselves.

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:40 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:Good one.

It bugged me a bit that Cyclonus and Scourge took credit for Shockwave's death, but then they always were full of themselves.

Well, Cyclonus said "we", he ofcourse ment Death's Head, Scourge and himself. Shockwave understood this as just Cyclonus and Scourge.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:06 pm

Stormwolf wrote:Well, Cyclonus said "we", he ofcourse ment Death's Head, Scourge and himself. Shockwave understood this as just Cyclonus and Scourge.

Sadly he also understood it as "will" not "have done already."

The poor one-eyed muppet.

Darth Aux · Post by **Darth Aux** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:34 am

Whatever happened to Sunstreak/er?

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:44 am

Lets see.... Sunstreaker was the only 'bot Ratchet couldn't fix after Shockwave's attack on the Ark in The Last Stand.

He wasn't up and running again until Totalled, where he presumably bought it in the big battle that followed as he does another vanishing act.

After that, take your pick: he was revived in Perchance to Dream by Galvatron and joined the Autobot Earthforce, or was revived by Nucleon just in time for Edge of Extinction.

Darth Aux · Post by **Darth Aux** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 10:13 am

spiderfrommars wrote:Lets see.... Sunstreaker was the only 'bot Ratchet couldn't fix after Shockwave's attack on the Ark in The Last Stand.

He wasn't up and running again until Totalled, where he presumably bought it in the big battle that followed as he does another vanishing act.

After that, take your pick: he was revived in Perchance to Dream by Galvatron and joined the Autobot Earthforce, or was revived by Nucleon just in time for Edge of Extinction.

Thanks, you can always rely on your friendly neighbourhood Spidey

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 2:52 pm

Now I'm confused. Where is Shockwave?

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 3:56 pm

Shockwave dies in the year 2008, assasinated by Death's Head. Its only a 'possible' future of course.

Check it: http://www.transfans.net/comics_guide_d ... 175&page=9

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:02 pm

Whatever happened to all of the heroes? All the Shakespeare-os?

Whatever happened to the Likely Lads?

Whatever happened to you?
Whatever happened to me?
Whatever happened... to my rock & roll?

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 4:09 pm

Whatever happened to Saturday night?

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:00 pm

Whatever happend to the season 1 and 2 characters in the cartoon?

Hasbro executive: Who cares, our 30 minute commercials are only supposed to show the Transformers we want to sell at that moment,

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Sat Feb 12, 2005 9:28 pm

Anyone who didn't have a toy in 1986 died or got lost in Limbo.

You know why Starscream came back as a ghost in 2 episodes?

Not because the writers thought fans liked him... he HAD A TOY!!!

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 5:19 am

Q about WarWorld. Exactly how big was it supposed to be???

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 10:21 am

Señior's Covenant wrote:Q about WarWorld. Exactly how big was it supposed to be???

I think maybe as big as the Deathstar

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sun Feb 13, 2005 4:48 pm

Both the Warworld and Twilight must have been ******* massive.

Don't forget, a Second Generation X-S Class Starship (quite small compared to those two, maybe a sixth or an eighth of the size) held 16,000 Transformers. Thats a lot!

That means the Twilight could have had a possible crew of 128,000!

Now, an Imperial Star Destroyer has a human crew of 36,810.

So maybe the War World is Death Star sized. Blimey.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:12 pm

and the war world is how big compared to cybertron? - which some tout is only moon sized...

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Mon Feb 14, 2005 2:37 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:...which some tout is only moon sized...

It's Saturn sized.