The posthumous DW awards

Post by **Best First** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 1:30 pm

looking back, what did they get right?

Best character?
Best story?
Best writer
Best artist?
Best single issue?
Best series?
Best cover?

Best anything else?

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 4:58 pm

Best First wrote:
Best character?

Megatron (G1/Armada/Energon)

Best First wrote:Best story?

War Within Vol 1

Best First wrote:Best writer

Simon Furman

Best First wrote:Best artist?

Don Figueroa

Best First wrote:Best single issue?

Worlds Collide Part 3 (Armada issue 16)

Best First wrote:Best series?

War Within

Best First wrote:Best cover?

War Within Vol 1 issue 1

EDIT-

For 'best anything else' I want to give a shout out to several of the other talented artists that DW did feature: James Raiz, Alex Milne, Jae Lee, Guido Guidi, Joe Ng and of course Andy Wildman.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:11 pm

Best First wrote:looking back, what did they get right?

C...cl...closing down?

Best First wrote:Best character?

I'm honestly not sure.

Best First wrote:Best story?

I'm honestly not sure.

Best First wrote:Best writer?

Furman, though he is not the be-all I'd like to say. He's still great.

Best First wrote:Best artist?

Doesn't matter to me.

Best First wrote:Best single issue?

I'm honestly not sure. I stopped buying after a while. Get back with me when I visit the local libr... ...bookstore at the clearence bin soon.

Best First wrote:Best series?

War Within despite bumps. In fact, I'd like to present the ending to our first run-through with the Fallen as a prime example of the editing that some claim lacking from Dreamwave. There was clearly a puzzled gorilla with a pair of scissors making an effort.

Best First wrote:Best cover?

Any cover from an issue that did not later receive a gazillion alternate covers. By principle.

Best First wrote:Best anything else?

Rated best in stinking pile of bs in the majority of it's press releases.

Post by **Best First** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:24 pm

Best character?

Sparkplug (Armda)

Best story?

Worlds Collide

Best writer

Simon Furman

Best artist?

Don Figuroa

Best single issue?

Worlds collide issue 3

Best series?

War Within

Best cover?

War Within V1 Issue 1

Best anything else?

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Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:45 pm

Megs was the best character indeed, closely followed by Armada-Prime, and believe it or not, G1 Jazz, but that's probably colored by the fact that Jazz is one of my favorites.

Best story arc ever was Worlds Collide, mainly cause it finnally gave the fans what many of them probably had wanted for a long time, a G1-crossover(sorta) and subsequent smack-downs between them and the Armada characters. Good writing too.

I supose that the old Furry-man was the best writer after all. To think some people were very unhappy with his efforts when he first came onboard.

Don was the Don of artists and you could see how he evolved his style from his own MacroMasters comic the whole time, getting better and better.

Best single issue? Wow, that one was hard, I'll have to take one with a good individual moment, Transformers Armada #16. (I kinda liked Energon #29 too, TEN...YEARS!)

Best series,War Within or Armada, TWW or TFA, TWW or TFA..hmm, TWW had more stabile writing, but I'm going to go for Armada since it's a new take on Transformers.

Best story arc was Worlds Collide. Best cover? I'm going to have to check all this I think, hold on... Owwf, many a favorite here, (hrrm, yes, they may have done a few too many..) but I'll haveta go with G1 v3 #6

Jetfire and Sunstorm locked in mortal combat above earths atmoshere, second is acctually Armada #16, Bludgeon lurking in the shadows and all.

Anything else? The graphical style acctually, they (as in mostly Pat Lee?) invented a new way of drawing Transformers, and altough Lee indeed skews proportions a lot, others did not. And I have to say that overall I like this look better than the organo-mess that was G2 or the Marvel Trans-formers toy accurate-itis. (It had nearly as many styles as there were artists, I know, but meh..Wildman rules btw.)

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:36 pm

I admit that some of the choices might not neccessary be 'best', but 'favourite.

Character

I think Sparkplug it is. Always thinking of his companions, not afraid to tell off even Prime when neccesary. Shame he's not around in Energon.

Megatron loses many points because of 'The Prime Directives'. "I am Eric Meganus Lehnsherr, these humans are not worthy your attention Optimus, join me..."

Story

Though I love 'Dark Ages', 'World's Collide' has better ending.

Writer

Simon Furman. Some of his stories were dodgy, but he actually didn't have serious competition.

Artist

Don Figueroa. Though he must work on his humans and if Wildman and Raiz were given more chances, they might give him a run for his money. I personally prefer Wildman.

Single issue

'Dark Ages' #3. Damn, I like this series.

Series

War Within, it had less weak points than Armada/Energon.

Cover

Not paying too much attention to covers, but like the one from 'Dark Ages' #2 by Figueroa.

Anything else

Ummm.... they kinda blazed a trail, showed that Transformers are at least a little popular and now a more serious company with more resources can take over the license and produce material of better quality?

They also introduced few talented artists and helped them to take their first steps in professional comic industry.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:20 pm

Character

WW Springer

Story

Worlds Collide of course

Writer

Furman

Artist

Wildman

Single Issue

WWTDA #3 .. I just like Springer in this series. Too bad he turns to cock later.

Series

War Within

Cover

Sunstorm #2 with Bumblebee holding the giant cannon over Bruticus. I just like the thought of the little guy having an 'I have had ENOUGH' moment.

Anything Else

Predabot smells like cheese

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:31 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:[bCover

Sunstorm #2 with Bumblebee holding the giant cannon over Bruticus. I just like the thought of the little guy having an 'I have had ENOUGH' moment.

Heh, that's acctually one of my favorites too.

Anything Else

Predabot smells like cheese

Why you..!

Quiet you!

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:50 pm

Predabot wrote:
Optimus Prime Rib wrote:[bCover

Sunstorm #2 with Bumblebee holding the giant cannon over Bruticus. I just like the thought of the little guy having an 'I have had ENOUGH' moment.
Heh, that's acctually one of my favorites too.

Ah crap, is it too late to change my favorite?

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:02 pm

Character
Ultimate Wolv-, er, War Within Grimlock.

Story
Any one with WW Grimlock in it.

Writer
The one that writes the WW Grimlock stories. Although there's not quite enough WW Grimlock in them for my liking.

Artist
The one that came up with the design for WW Grimlock. It is teh sexay.

Single issue
'Dark Ages' #4.
It has a lot of WW Grimlock in it.

Series
War Within: Dynobots. Oh, wait, that was a dream I had.

Cover
Any one with WW Grimlock on it.

Anything else
Quite liked what they did with Grimlock in the War Within series.

I have no shame [/Johnny Vegas]

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:20 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote: Ah crap, is it too late to change my favorite?

Jupp.

Warcry · Post by **Warcry** » Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:57 pm

Best character?
A tie: WWI Springer and WWI Ratbat

Best story?
Dark Ages

Best writer
Furman

Best artist?
Wildman

Best single issue?
Dark Ages #3

Best series?
War Within

Best cover?
The Insecticon cover from G1V1

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:35 am

Best character?

Megatron (Armada)

Best story?

War Within

Best writer

Furman

Best artist?

Figueroa!!!!!!

Best single issue?

Worlds Collide 3

Best series?

WW

Best cover?

WW1, G1 1. Love Group shots

Best anything else?

Transformers Returning after a long time.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:30 pm

Best character?

Sparkplug would be, if he was in Energon... Thus, Armada/Energon Megs wins by a mile. I also loved Bludgeon Jr. too..

Best story?

Dark Ages, by miles. It was like reading Marvel TF again...

Best writer

Look at my sig...

Best artist?

Don and Guido, joint place.

Best single issue?

TWW DA #4. Trypticon is like Roger Moore...(and I never thought I would say that...)

Best series?

The War Within.

Best cover?

Armada 13? The one with Over-Run, Starscream, and G1 Galvy...

Best anything else?

MTMTE! I mean, that was something I waited an eternity for... I even started drawing and writing profiles for those who were missing from Marvel's TFU...

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:02 pm

I think Joe NG's work is overlooked myself.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Fri Jan 07, 2005 7:12 pm

Best character?
WW Starscream, particularly in AoW#1. I really thought he was spot on. Ruthless and cold-blooded to excess.

Best story?
The Dark Ages. Pure joy from start to finish.

Best writer
Furman. Duh.

Best artist?
The Don.

Best single issue?
AoW#1. Honourable mentions though to Ongoing#4 and World's Collide #3. All top notch.

Best series?
The War Within.

Best cover?
Hmmm, tough. Don's Prime on the cover of Ongoing #1 was pretty sweet.

Josh · Post by **Josh** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:31 am

hmmm

Best character? - Sunstorm. Who doesnt like an overcharged psychopath
Best story? - Age of Wrath
Best writer? - Furman is great but i really did like the stuff McDonough was chruning out
Best artist? - Tie between James Raiz, Don Fig, and Joe Ng
Best single issue? - Age of Wrath #1 because it was my pro comic debut ^__^
Best series? - War Within
Best cover? - War Within vol.1 #3 [though Dark Ages #4 cover takes a close second]

Best anything else?
My getting a chance to work on an official Transformers comic? >D

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:53 am

Josh wrote:Sunstorm. Who doesnt like an overcharged psychopath

Me.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:57 am

And me too.

Would have liked him, if at least 50% of what he said would have made sense... but it didn't. And face it, listening to some religious techno- babble for 6 issues without understanding what the hell is going on is not an enjoyment...

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 4:51 pm

Josh wrote:hmmm
Best artist? - Tie between James Raiz, Don Fig, and Joe Ng

I would love to know what you think of Pat Lee and Rob Ruffalo's work

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:29 pm

The Sunstorm saga for me was a cut above the average TF tale, but Sunstorm himself was more of a cypher than a character. Besides "You're in my way, suffer heretic!" he seemed to have very little characterisation. Mick did quite well with this arc, don't get me wrong, but Sunstorm was pretty one-dimensional.

Josh · Post by **Josh** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 7:39 am

Hound wrote:
Josh wrote:hmmm
Best artist? - Tie between James Raiz, Don Fig, and Joe Ng
I would love to know what you think of Pat Lee and Rob Ruffalo's work

I really like Pat Lee's work [particularly his stuff from years back and his most recent stuff. I really like how he's starting to play with blacks a lot.] but i dont care for Rob Ruffulo's artwork very much

He's got details down totally but proportions and puffyness seriously detracted
he's a great colorist though.

Post by **Best First** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:19 am

Metal Vendetta wrote:The Sunstorm saga for me was a cut above the average TF tale,

Just for the record, i couldn't disagree more. Tastes like underbase.

Pat isa great cover artist, but his interior art seems to utterly lack any understanding of basic story telling IMO. Plus i get teh impression he struggles with eadlines, his later issues are always noticably poorer tht the first.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:22 pm

His stuff in the new TF/Joe crossover looked pretty good. His work definitely seems to benefit when someone else is on breakdowns.

Post by **Best First** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 1:57 pm

it still had his usual problmes tho - some of the facial expressions are hilarious and there are still a lot of issues with perspective and proportions - especially towards the end of the issue in teh woods.

Repticon · Post by **Repticon** » Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:30 pm

Best character?

(Classic)
WW/G1 Optimus Prime
2nd Place: WW Megatron

(New Gen)
The Fallen

Best story?

Hardest to decide.
I love War and Peace (Classic G1 Stuff), Worlds Collide ( Made Armada an worth reading and valid-from-the-old-fan-boy-perspective-series) and Everything War Within ( I mean Dark Ages honored its name, Vol. 3 was going very good but Vol 1…) yeah, I am going for War Within Vol 1, simply put, it was Dreamwave’s best addition to Transformers canon.

Best writer?

Simon Furman of course.

Best artist?

I would say Don Figueroa, he is the best drawing TFs, but everybody has voted for him and his humans simply suck, so I am going for Jae Lee. I loved Guido Guidi too.

Best single issue?

War Within Vol 1 #3: Prime and Megs fighting for the first time, Starscream`s first betrayal, an all-out Decepticon attack on Iacon, that’s number one in my scale.

Best series?

War Within

Best cover?

War Within Vol 1 # 1

Best anything else?
!Bringing back TFs!

Making Armada and Energon memorable, something impossible if we could only have had those poorly written cartoons.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 9:18 pm

welcome to Transfans Repticon.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:03 pm

I still think Joe NG's work is overlooked to easily - hes got an eye for detail.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:37 am

its important to say it twice.

altho personally i think a lot of DW's articist are encouraged to use too much detail - often it interferes with the calrity of the work and teh storytelling.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:28 am

Yeah, def. One of the (many) reasons Ruffalo wasn't just a poor comic penciller, but actually an irritatingly inept one, IMHO. He went overboard putting soooo much detail into the characters and half the time you still couldn't tell who they were or how they were feeling/what they were thinking!

Joe Ng is good but I don't think he'd really feature on any of my serious 'Best of' lists, with the possible exception of WW: tDA #1 as best single issue.

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