Baseless Speculation? Dreamwave.

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Baseless Speculation? Dreamwave.

Post by Brendocon » Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:47 pm

Somebody told a mate of mine that his uncle's best friend's badger thinks that Dreamwave have gone out of business.
http://www.bwtf.com/ wrote:12/22/04: Dreamwave Productions out of business?
A rumor has surfaced from a source that Dreamwave Productions, publisher of the current Transformers comic books, has gone out of business. This is only rumor now pending official announcement.
Full of juicy facts and supporting evidence, and well worth my spreading through the internet, I'm sure you'll agree.
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Post by Stormwolf » Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:03 pm

Brendocon wrote:Somebody told a mate of mine that his uncle's best friend's badger thinks that Dreamwave have gone out of business.
http://www.bwtf.com/ wrote:12/22/04: Dreamwave Productions out of business?
A rumor has surfaced from a source that Dreamwave Productions, publisher of the current Transformers comic books, has gone out of business. This is only rumor now pending official announcement.
Full of juicy facts and supporting evidence, and well worth my spreading through the internet, I'm sure you'll agree.
Nah, my neighbor's, daughter's personal dentist's grandfather's drinkingbuddy said that they are still in business.
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Post by Señior's Covenant » Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:21 pm

Stormwolf wrote: Nah, my neighbor's, daughter's personal dentist's grandfather's drinkingbuddy said that they are still in business.
That's funny, I've gotten all sorts of stories. My cousin's butcher who jogs with this supreme court judge that pops Advil Liqui-gels like tic-tacs and who once slept with his best friend who is the one that eventually dry cleaned Monica's Lewinsky's dress heard it from my cousin that they were claiming bankruptcy. I still don't see why my cousin didn't just tell me.

But then again I received a smoke signal from the Jolly Green Giant explaining that this buck'a'suck Pat Lee was busted with is taking over DW and renaming it Worst Ideas, Inc.

So who knows.
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Post by Professor Smooth » Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:21 pm

The source of this rumor is BEN FREAKIN' YEE! Insane as the rumor sounds, how often has he EVER been wrong?
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Post by Brendocon » Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:24 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:The source of this rumor is BEN FREAKIN' YEE! Insane as the rumor sounds, how often has he EVER been wrong?
It is? So how come the article says that it's come from a source of his.

Ergo he's not the source, just somebody reporting the rumour. He's right in the sense that a source of his has told him, but it doesn't mean his source is right.

Therefore he remains right, you remain wrong, and all is right in the natural order of things.

Booya!
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Post by BB Shockwave » Wed Dec 22, 2004 4:54 pm

There is one thing I'm really looking forward...

When DW's gone up in smokes, Simon can finally tell us in an interview how working 'really' was at DW... like how much he could influence G1 ongoing, or vice versa, how much Pat Lee and Brad forced their ideas on him. :roll:
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Post by Kaylee » Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:05 pm

{fingers crossed}

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Post by Stormwolf » Wed Dec 22, 2004 5:46 pm

Karl Lynch wrote:{fingers crossed}

:D
{fingers crossed}

and hoping that Marvel will get TF back again :idea:
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Post by sprunkner » Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:32 pm

Actually, somebody told me....

That you had a boyfriend! Who looks like a girlfriend! Who looked like my boyfriend, who looked like my grandma! Yea, I said grandma!

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Post by Brendocon » Wed Dec 22, 2004 10:45 pm

Ominous... just got this from Amazon:
Dear Customer,

We are sorry to report that the release of the following item has been cancelled:

Adam Patyk, James McDonought "Transformers Generation One: More Than Meets The Eye Official Guidebook: 2"

This item has now been cancelled from your order and we can confirm that you have not been charged for it.

Please accept our apologies for any disappointment or inconvenience caused.
Draw your own conclusions.
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Post by Dead Head » Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:22 pm

Nothing really to cry about if Dreamwave goes under. But nothing to gloat about either.





(Although I would be slightly peeved at not seeing Furman's Ultra Magnus set things to right in AoW #6. UM's characterization has generally been shat on by Dreamwave, and it would be nice to see Magnus done right for a change.)

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Post by spiderfrommars » Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:41 pm

Brendocon wrote:Ominous... just got this from Amazon:
Dear Customer,

We are sorry to report that the release of the following item has been cancelled:

Adam Patyk, James McDonought "Transformers Generation One: More Than Meets The Eye Official Guidebook: 2"

This item has now been cancelled from your order and we can confirm that you have not been charged for it.

Please accept our apologies for any disappointment or inconvenience caused.
Draw your own conclusions.
Yeah, I got the same email.

Shame. MTMTE Vol 1 looks lovely on my coffee table.
Dead Head wrote:Nothing really to cry about if Dreamwave goes under. But nothing to gloat about either.
I quite agree.
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Post by Kaylee » Wed Dec 22, 2004 11:48 pm

Wow... can it be? Has DW really folded? :eek:

EDIT- does this discussion deserve a news item?

Moreso, with DW out of the picture Molestrangler will now be the ONLY TF continuity!! MUHHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAR! :D

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Post by Professor Smooth » Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:18 am

I'm not sure if this is supposed to be widely known, but what the hell:

Dreamwave has NOT folded and it has not gone out of business. This rumor started shortly after dreamwave "closed" for the holidays. The staff of DW is on a short vacation until either right before or right after the new year. This rumor is completely false. Entertaining, but false.
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Post by Kaylee » Thu Dec 23, 2004 1:05 am

Why might they have cancelled the orders then? Or are they missing another publication date :(

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Post by Denyer » Thu Dec 23, 2004 2:42 am

Karl Lynch wrote:Molestrangler will now be the ONLY TF continuity!!
I'm seeing this as a good thing...

I would guess that the reason trades have been axed / rescheduled is a) **** organisation, and b) possibly pending legal action. G1 Volume 0 (Micromasters, etc) was also cancelled IIRC.

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Post by spiderfrommars » Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:11 am

Professor Smooth wrote:I'm not sure if this is supposed to be widely known, but what the hell:

Dreamwave has NOT folded and it has not gone out of business. This rumor started shortly after dreamwave "closed" for the holidays. The staff of DW is on a short vacation until either right before or right after the new year. This rumor is completely false. Entertaining, but false.
Thanks for the update Prof.

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Post by Best First » Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:41 am

round and round we go...

remember when Transformers were fun?

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Post by Kaylee » Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:48 am

Best First wrote: remember when Transformers were fun?
...No :cry:

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Post by Professor Smooth » Thu Dec 23, 2004 6:09 pm

Don't read too much into the MTMTE Volume 2 being cancelled. It hasn't. I've got a confirmed spotting of the book at a UK Forbidden Planet location.
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Post by Computron » Thu Dec 23, 2004 7:15 pm

Good heavens, this is just a comedy of errors...

Ah well, time to shove the TF license into Image or Marvel...

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Post by Hound » Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:25 pm

iI bought MTMTE part 2 (protectobots - wreckgar) about 2 weeks ago in london.

unless I am being thick and thinking of the wrong thing??
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Post by Lord Shockwave » Sun Dec 26, 2004 1:21 am

DW is done.

A guy going by the name of "mynameisstan" who appears to have insider information is supposedly confirming it.

He is giving information that only insiders would know.

Even worse, this rumor has surfaced for days, causing havoc on all TF message boards, yet not a single voice from DW has refuted it.

No more ongoing. No more War Within. No more Beast Wars.

No more DW. :cry:

Farewell.

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Post by Professor Smooth » Sun Dec 26, 2004 2:47 am

Lord Shockwave wrote:DW is done.

A guy going by the name of "mynameisstan" who appears to have insider information is supposedly confirming it.

He is giving information that only insiders would know.

Even worse, this rumor has surfaced for days, causing havoc on all TF message boards, yet not a single voice from DW has refuted it.

No more ongoing. No more War Within. No more Beast Wars.

No more DW. :cry:

Farewell.
The reason that nobody from DW has refuted it is that DW is on vacation until around the first of the year. That's what makes this rumor so effective.
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Post by Lord Shockwave » Sun Dec 26, 2004 5:32 am

Professor Smooth wrote:
Lord Shockwave wrote:DW is done.

A guy going by the name of "mynameisstan" who appears to have insider information is supposedly confirming it.

He is giving information that only insiders would know.

Even worse, this rumor has surfaced for days, causing havoc on all TF message boards, yet not a single voice from DW has refuted it.

No more ongoing. No more War Within. No more Beast Wars.

No more DW. :cry:

Farewell.
The reason that nobody from DW has refuted it is that DW is on vacation until around the first of the year. That's what makes this rumor so effective.
Sorry, I think this whole "out on vacation" explanation is weak at best. Somebody somewhere related to DW would have heard this thing and diffused this sucker. Its been days and not a peep out of anyone. Santa Claus and Christmas trees aren't going to keep DW staff from checking their emails.

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Post by Optimus Prime Rib » Sun Dec 26, 2004 6:01 am

Lord Shockwave wrote:
Professor Smooth wrote:
Lord Shockwave wrote:DW is done.

A guy going by the name of "mynameisstan" who appears to have insider information is supposedly confirming it.

He is giving information that only insiders would know.

Even worse, this rumor has surfaced for days, causing havoc on all TF message boards, yet not a single voice from DW has refuted it.

No more ongoing. No more War Within. No more Beast Wars.

No more DW. :cry:

Farewell.
The reason that nobody from DW has refuted it is that DW is on vacation until around the first of the year. That's what makes this rumor so effective.
Sorry, I think this whole "out on vacation" explanation is weak at best. Somebody somewhere related to DW would have heard this thing and diffused this sucker. Its been days and not a peep out of anyone. Santa Claus and Christmas trees aren't going to keep DW staff from checking their emails.
Why not? Deadlines and Fanbases dont keep the DW staff from putting out quality material on time. :oops:
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"Pat Lee is an iconic comics superstar and everyone knows of him and rates him even though 90% of those in the comics industry and fan community look blank when you mention his name. They are jealous liars who cannot see the truth.
In fact, anyone who thinks his art, storytelling and business skills are crap is a racist.
He is a genius, with terrific abs, dress-sense and bling. Smoking is cool, but not as cool as Pat and his fleet of sports cars. I want to be as cool as him. X-4 is not the Worst Comic of the Year. Pat is God."

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Post by Professor Smooth » Sun Dec 26, 2004 3:55 pm

Where in the blue hell do all of these crazy pictures of Pat Lee come from!?!?!
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Post by Kaylee » Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:00 pm

He might be a **** but my god he isn't bad looking though!

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Post by KingMob » Sun Dec 26, 2004 4:07 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:Where in the blue hell do all of these crazy pictures of Pat Lee come from!?!?!
Someone gave Rob Ruffalo a digicam last Christmas?

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