2005 or 2006?

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:43 am

The movie took place in 2005, though UK continuity constantly referenced it as having happened in 2006.

When do you place the events of the movie?

Post by **Kaylee** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:43 am

1776.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 11:46 am

I meant 'Transformers: The Movie', not 'The Patriot'. Puttup!

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 1:09 pm

To me, the comic makes more sense than the cartoon did, so I'd initially say 2006. Perhaps though it was an endeavor that started in 2005 and continued and climaxed into 2006?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:12 pm

If the events started at the end of December, both can be true without any problem.

But, as I've stated before, I regard "TF:TM" and "comic events circa 2006" to be distinct whatchamahoosits. Similar, but not the same.

Post by **Kaylee** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:19 pm

4 Billion BC?

The world was created on a Tuesday. Not many people know that.

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Just an excuse to quote Animaniacs

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 6:45 pm

Señior's Covenant wrote:Perhaps though it was an endeavor that started in 2005 and continued and climaxed into 2006?

Brendocon wrote:If the events started at the end of December, both can be true without any problem.

Why even go so far as to fix it to December?

The narration at the beginning says "It is the year 2005...", and then we see Unicron consuming Lithone. The next thing we see is the Autobots on Cybertron's moon. Who's to say how much time there is between the end of Lithone and the Autobots' ill-fated trip to Earth?

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 8:31 pm

Actually, we first see Unicron eating Lithone, and then, we hear voice-over which states it is year 2005 as Autobots are preparing for trip to Earth.

Bouncelot · Post by **Bouncelot** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 10:14 pm

I go with the dating from Target: 2006, meself. But Brendocon's thing about the comic events being different to the movie is a possiblity.

bobaprime85 · Post by **bobaprime85** » Sun Oct 31, 2004 7:32 pm

Ozz wrote:Actually, we first see Unicron eating Lithone, and then, we hear voice-over which states it is year 2005 as Autobots are preparing for trip to Earth.

I was under the impression that the narration varies among the versions of the movie, like the Star Wars type scrolling. Or I'm just delusional again.

Bah, silly cartoon endeavours. Just go with the comic and be done with it. Less of a headache.

Redstreak · Post by **Redstreak** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 5:23 pm

I dearly love the whole finality inherent in saying it is the year 2005. Something about the year ending in 5 makes it seem like there's less of a loose end, if that makes any sense.

But I do my TF stuff based on the events having taken place in 2006.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 9:36 pm

I think they ment 2005 in the comic - but sodded up. I mean the comic was pushing the movie in lots of : *see TF:Movie for more details ... bits in Target : 2006 erm... so if they keep refering to the movie, and that this timeline with galvatron etc on earth etc is due to said movie, why say 2006?

Bouncelot · Post by **Bouncelot** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:03 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:I think they ment 2005 in the comic - but sodded up. I mean the comic was pushing the movie in lots of : *see TF:Movie for more details ... bits in Target : 2006 erm... so if they keep refering to the movie, and that this timeline with galvatron etc on earth etc is due to said movie, why say 2006?

No they didn't. The movie was originally going to be set in 2006, and the change to 2005 didn't make it to Furman in time for it to be altered for the start of Target: 2006.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:19 pm

ah so we can say that it is 2006 but they changed it. anyone got a reason why?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 11:21 pm

Bouncelot wrote:
Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:I think they ment 2005 in the comic - but sodded up. I mean the comic was pushing the movie in lots of : *see TF:Movie for more details ... bits in Target : 2006 erm... so if they keep refering to the movie, and that this timeline with galvatron etc on earth etc is due to said movie, why say 2006?
No they didn't. The movie was originally going to be set in 2006, and the change to 2005 didn't make it to Furman in time for it to be altered for the start of Target: 2006.

Plus, 20 years is a rounder figure than 19.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 5:05 pm

I know this is a really old topic, but I occasionally trawl the old stuff for inspiration and after reading this topic just had an idea. Perhaps it was late on New Year's Eve 2005 (like 11.59pm) when the TF movie started and the narrator gave his info, and by the time the comic stuff happened it was early January 2005.
Cop-out I know, but it solves the problem neatly.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sat Mar 12, 2005 6:05 pm

Brendocon wrote:If the events started at the end of December, both can be true without any problem.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:27 pm

Whoops! Can't believe I missed that! Must have been a busy day at work for me.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:50 am

The movie never happened. Unicron showed up early and G2 happened instead.

veritech · Post by **veritech** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 3:05 pm

Wow! With all this retconning going on I feel like I am in the Star Wars Expanded Universe board!!!

Seriously, I think that the UK stories are good enough that they can stand on their own without trying to reconcile, you know.

I actually find it amazing that UK managed to work in one story from the "Cartoon Continuity" into their narrative and then ignore the inferior Season 3 of the cartoon! It was a stroke of genius!

ShadowSonic · Post by **ShadowSonic** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:47 pm

I thought Season 3 was the best of all the seasons, it's unfair to compare it to the comic since comics can get away with a lot more stuff than TV shows can.

Snowcat · Post by **Snowcat** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 4:59 pm

I`ve always gone by 2006, mainly because the comic was more consistent with it`s storylines than the cartoon.

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:32 pm

Snowcat wrote:I`ve always gone by 2006, mainly because the comic was more consistent with it`s storylines than the cartoon.

The cartoon had storylines?

ShadowSonic · Post by **ShadowSonic** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 5:46 pm

Sure, Season 3 had the Starscream plot for two episodes, the Quintesson sub-plot for most of the entire season, Unicron's head subplot, Galvatron's insanity (not handled well), etc.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:52 pm

Season 3 was AWFUL. It took me six weeks to get throught the episodes on the DVD release, compared to the two days it took to watch all of the first 2 seasons. I just couldn't sit through it without a break every ten minutes and a rest for a day or so. Apart from the obvious bad animation, annoying mental Galvatron and whiney Rodimus, the stories just were so cringeworthy (going into Daniel's nightmares? - I hate seeing the OUTSIDE of him). If the ideas had perhaps been handled better it might not have been so bad. I'm so glad that the UK only ever got about five episodes on video all those years ago or I'd have lost heart completely before BW came along.
Still, I'm glad I have it 'cos I'm a completeist, but not sure if I'll ever watch it again.

Post by **Denyer** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:20 pm

Seriously? The two episodes I genuinely like are in Season 3. "Fight or Flee" and "Dark Awakening".

Galvatron being insane but dangerous was also a much better explanation for why the Decepticons never accomplished anything than Megatron simply being stupid.

spiderfrommars wrote:The movie took place in 2005, though UK continuity constantly referenced it as having happened in 2006.

When do you place the events of the movie?

I see them as taking place over both years, since there's quite a lot of long-distance travel...

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:31 pm

Denyer wrote:I see them as taking place over both years, since there's quite a lot of long-distance travel...

And then you get the cartoon (lack of) continuity swimming in with "ooh, the Decepticons go to Cybertron, Unicron, Cybertron and back to Earth, while all the Autobots do is mourn Prime in the same time."

Despite appearances, I do agree with you on the timescale, btw.

Post by **Denyer** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 9:06 pm

When the film was written, only Astrotrain was really emphasised as having an interstellar mode—Omega Supreme and the gestalts (other than Devastator) didn't show up until later.

The Autobots had shuttles, but they were old enough not to have radar Soundwave couldn't jam... plus one could reason that damage had to be repaired after the attack on Autobot City.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:52 pm

I think that its just an error. I dont except that things are supposed to happen over a two year span etc.

If you were making a film you wouldnt expect your auidence to think about these things.

When the narrator says its 2005 , im pretty sure that its supposed to mean it takes place in 2005 only.

even the travel between planets etc, if u wanted to make the auidence belive it took longer then you would show days passing or somthing else.

we know its unlikely, but joe public wont.

bobaprime85 · Post by **bobaprime85** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 10:52 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:I think that its just an error. I dont except that things are supposed to happen over a two year span etc.

But why dismiss it as yet another goof when you can waste time thinking up contrived ways to explain it?

Maybe there should be a TF version of the old Marvel No-prize....