Rules of Exctinction Dinobots...

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:06 pm

In this forthcoming DW, um, thing, the yet-to-be-dubbed Insecticons travel to Earth, pursued by the Dynobots. In the flashback in #8 we see that Kickback is in his WW config while Grimmers has a T-Rex arm hanging off his back. But this happened what, between 3.9 and 3.5 million years ago? When the dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago, so there wouldn't be any around on Earth for them to see, why would 5 Autobots be reformatted with dinosaur alt-modes?

Hence the poll.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:11 pm

I'm gonna go with fossils.

No real reason for them to be made organic. Pretender synth-skin tech hasn't been created yet (had it?), and I don't think the scanners would see a bunch of fossilised bones and say "we will make the alt modes based on these... and cover them in skin!"

So, yeah. Fossils!

Or Shockwave...

ShadowSonic · Post by **ShadowSonic** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:46 pm

They probably got Dinobot modes the saem way BW Megatron, Terrorsaur and Dinobot did: They scanned some fossils.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:47 pm

Of course then they have to explain how come Sludge is a brontosaurus...

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:58 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:Of course then they have to explain how come Sludge is a brontosaurus...

Simple, innit? It scanned some incomplete fossils and decided to mesh them together!

Either that or Sludge is some other form of sauropod.

[Of course I could argue that Sludge isn't a brontosaurus, but a fictional robot with an alternate mode patterned after creatures of a similar genus to a brontosaurus, but let's leave the pedantry in that other thread, yeah?

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Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:13 pm

Shockwave did it, I'm also willing to bet that it was Shockwave who shot JFK

Bouncelot · Post by **Bouncelot** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:18 pm

The Marvel Savage Land explanation was, IMO, the best explanation. But I voted for "Shockwave Did It" because that's what I think Dreamwave will actually say.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 1:37 pm

Note on the whole Brontosaurus issue. If you compare the skull of an Apatosaurus, which is the correct name for the Brontosaur (though many & most still seem to refer to him as the B-name), with that of a Camarosaurus, Sludge's dino mode still resembles more of the dino it should imo so all they did (in the world of TFs on Earth) was name it wrong which isn't surprising given at that time in our history the general populace (folks that know essentially dick about dinos) didn't know what an Apatosaur was. You think Sludge gives a damn whether his alt modes name starts with "Apato" or "Bronto"? A Sludge by any other name...

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Stormwolf wrote:Shockwave did it, I'm also willing to bet that it was Shockwave who shot JFK

It wasn't me! It was the one-eyed man!

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:06 pm

DW have gone from blaming Shockwave for everything to blaming Vector Sigma lately. So, like the Micromasters, I think Vector Sigma will foot the bill for this too.

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:14 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:DW have gone from blaming Shockwave for everything to blaming Vector Sigma lately. So, like the Micromasters, I think Vector Sigma will foot the bill for this too.

But it was Shockwave who was messing around with Vector Sigma.....

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:19 pm

Stormwolf wrote: But it was Shockwave who was messing around with Vector Sigma.....

I thought that was after the Great Shutdown?

Hm, as I suspected, I really don't get DW's timeline.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:38 pm

Stormwolf wrote:Shockwave did it, I'm also willing to bet that it was Shockwave who shot JFK

No, that was Megatron. Honest!

(Logically, if a JFK was shot by a space gun... not much would have remained for the analysis.)

I voted Wheeljack. So cartoony--- so nostalgic- So it's only logical Brames will choose this.

bobaprime85 · Post by **bobaprime85** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:39 pm

Stormwolf wrote:
spiderfrommars wrote:DW have gone from blaming Shockwave for everything to blaming Vector Sigma lately. So, like the Micromasters, I think Vector Sigma will foot the bill for this too.
But it was Shockwave who was messing around with Vector Sigma.....

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Dreamwave reveals that Vector Sigma was really manipulating Shockwave all the time! Can't you just see it?

Some Really Ominous Ancient Temple On Cybertron:

Prime is down on the ground injured.

Shockwave is gloating over him.

Then - FWASH! A big laser scorches Shockwave and the Vector Sigma orb starts talking about how easy it was to manipulate the Transformers. 22 pages later, it finishes taking credit for everything from the Dinobots to Chris Sarracini and gets ambushed by...... Optimus Prime's roller!

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 11:12 pm

bobaprime85 wrote:Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Dreamwave reveals that Vector Sigma was really manipulating Shockwave all the time! Can't you just see it?

Yup. Throw in Primus and I really think you've hit the nail on the head there.

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 8:22 am

Metal Vendetta wrote:
bobaprime85 wrote:Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Dreamwave reveals that Vector Sigma was really manipulating Shockwave all the time! Can't you just see it?
Yup. Throw in Primus and I really think you've hit the nail on the head there.

I don't think that Primus will appear in the ongoing:

Brad Mick: "Who's Primus?", "What episode was he in?"

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 1:11 am

Stormwolf wrote:
Metal Vendetta wrote:
bobaprime85 wrote:Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Dreamwave reveals that Vector Sigma was really manipulating Shockwave all the time! Can't you just see it?
Yup. Throw in Primus and I really think you've hit the nail on the head there.
I don't think that Primus will appear in the ongoing:

Brad Mick: "Who's Primus?", "What episode was he in?"

wait you ARE making a joke, right?

Stormwolf · Post by **Stormwolf** » Fri Oct 22, 2004 8:30 am

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Metal Vendetta wrote: Yup. Throw in Primus and I really think you've hit the nail on the head there.
I don't think that Primus will appear in the ongoing:

Brad Mick: "Who's Primus?", "What episode was he in?"
wait you ARE making a joke, right?

Maybe.........

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:08 pm

So that's Shockwave in the lead, with Vector Sigma and the Beast Wars thing in joint second place. Interesting. Let's seal the results in a Transfans time capsule, and when the comic comes out, we'll see how accurate our predictions were...

...those who voted for Wheeljack...feh...

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:20 pm

Why not, Dreamwave luvs the cartoon because to them it's super-duper-mega-ultra-dig-dag-diddly-KEWL!!!

bobaprime85 · Post by **bobaprime85** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:41 pm

Señior's Covenant wrote:

Why not, Dreamwave luvs the cartoon because to them it's super-duper-mega-ultra-dig-dag-diddly-KEWL!!!

I fail to see why that deserves the small type.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:26 pm

Sometimes I don't know why anything deseerves the small type...

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 5:00 am

well when Im referring to my wedding tackle it should be in tiny print..

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 1:44 pm

bobaprime85 wrote:
Señior's Covenant wrote:

Why not, Dreamwave luvs the cartoon because to them it's super-duper-mega-ultra-dig-dag-diddly-KEWL!!!
I fail to see why that deserves the small type.

Well, aside from it being a filthy truth that should only be spoken in disgrace in dirty back alleys among crack addicts, I fail to see why it need be justified.

bobaprime85 · Post by **bobaprime85** » Tue Oct 26, 2004 10:04 pm

Señior's Covenant wrote:
bobaprime85 wrote:
Señior's Covenant wrote:

Why not, Dreamwave luvs the cartoon because to them it's super-duper-mega-ultra-dig-dag-diddly-KEWL!!!
I fail to see why that deserves the small type.
Well, aside from it being a filthy truth that should only be spoken in disgrace in dirty back alleys among crack addicts, I fail to see why it need be justified.

Ah. Touche.

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:35 am

spiderfrommars wrote:
Stormwolf wrote: But it was Shockwave who was messing around with Vector Sigma.....
I thought that was after the Great Shutdown?

Hm, as I suspected, I really don't get DW's timeline.

Well Vector Sigma could give the micros earth shapes; so past, present and future dont care a damn in this universe.

In the end, Vector Sigma did it with help of all the others (wheeljack made the brains, Megatron the personalities and Shockwave sold the licenses to Pat).

Post by **Best First** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:37 am

yeah - Vecotr Sigma is the new Shockwave.

I love it in G1 8 when Jazz goes 'but those guys lok totally different!"...

...yeah, except for the colours and aspects of their designs. Its almost as if they have been... reformated... with... earth... modes. Idiot.

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Rules of Exctinction Dinobots...

How do you think the Dynobots become the Dinobots?