The last days of Optimus Prime (remix)

paul cannon · Post by **paul cannon** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:29 pm

Completely reworked for 2004. Hope you like it.

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Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:33 pm

I've wanted to read this for ages. Can't wait!

I've always had a soft spot for Jeff's art too.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:38 pm

Total yawn for me. I hate the concept of J'nwan. Horrid idea imho.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:34 pm

What's J'nwan?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:40 pm

sprunkner wrote:What's J'nwan?

A Cybertronian afterlife*.

*Information gleaned solely from viewing the above link!

Post by **Best First** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:24 pm

i think its cooler than a man wearing only his pants on a winters day in Newcastle

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 5:26 pm

Best First wrote:i think its cooler than a man wearing only his pants on a winters day in Newcastle

So, not as cool as a liquid nitrogen jacuzzi, then?

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:45 pm

Ah, that was quite sweet.

So why/how did Prime die, eh?

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 7:56 pm

That's just it. He didn't. He went to "J'nwan". The place on Cybertron where legends go when they're ready to leave. No dying, no returning to the AllSpark or Primus, just walking into a shimmering plane where everyone lives happily ever after.

Rubbish.

[EDIT]

The story above was namely just a transition piece to help open the door for the botcon story Reaching the Omega Point.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:31 pm

I liked it.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:16 am

Señior's Covenant wrote:That's just it. He didn't. He went to "J'nwan". The place on Cybertron where legends go when they're ready to leave. No dying, no returning to the AllSpark or Primus, just walking into a shimmering plane where everyone lives happily ever after.

In the "one with the Matrix" sense?

Sorry, I see "he went to J'nwan" and immediately think he's picking up supplies for an all-night bender at Autobot City...

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:28 pm

Which would be an accurate description merely by the changing of a couple of words. According to the story the above piece was made for, J'nwan is apparently this region of Cybertron that was Cybertron, but not Cybertron.

To quote, it's "part of a quasi-reality juncture with the local traumasphere... ...Its very existence was an enigma. Many believed it to be no more than the stuff of legend, an ephemeral fantasy fashioned by poets and dreamers. But radically abstract science underpinned the ornate prose. The 'translucent sun, setting on plains of eternity', was in fact a region of quantum flux, a fissure in subspace that rotated through numerous pocket dimensions."

It's a pretty description, but I don't care for it personally. I only pray it never receives an official stamp of approval.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 6:21 pm

Hmm, I would have liked if this little story would make it to the end of a (possible) G2 TPB-reprint. Megs and Op finally shaking hands, now that was a chatarsis. No, really!

bobaprime85 · Post by **bobaprime85** » Tue Oct 19, 2004 10:30 pm

Good story, even though I'm not that familiar with J'nwan. Could have been better, though.

ShadowSonic · Post by **ShadowSonic** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:50 pm

I guess you can say that Jn'wann is a special part of the Allspark reserved for great Cybertronians, they can still return to Cybertron as spirits and don't get assimilated into the Allspark as fully as others.

Maybe Primal and Dinobot went there too.

Post by **Denyer** » Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:59 pm

Prefer the original comic, I think.

Any word on the TMUK books?

That's just it. He didn't. He went to "J'nwan". The place on Cybertron where legends go when they're ready to leave. No dying, no returning to the AllSpark or Primus, just walking into a shimmering plane where everyone lives happily ever after.

Ever read Iain Bank's science-fiction work on sublimed cultures?

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:31 pm

Denyer wrote:Ever read Iain Bank's science-fiction work on sublimed cultures?

'Fraid not. I would like to hear of it though.

Post by **Denyer** » Thu Oct 21, 2004 5:19 pm

Subliming crops up a fair bit in Excession and Look To Windwards, which also happen to be two of my favourite IB novels—you might want to try something like Against A Dark Background or Use Of Weapons as a taster first, though. Subliming is a civilisation (or part of a civilisation) moving on from the physical material universe... there'sa few decent enough links for this search...

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... arch&meta=

It'd only really be feasible in stable situations such as the Golden Ages which crop up in Cybertron's history—and with Transformers, such stable periods tend not to last.

I appreciate the notion that a race with lifespans measured in millions of years has the capacity to look beyond a fairly simplistic civil war of principles, though.

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The last days of Optimus Prime (remix)

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