Techno-organic vs. pre-upgrade Transformer

[Brendocon]

Perhaps not all the Cybertronians accepted a size reduction during the upgrade and instead preferred to remain as they were?

There's no evidence to suggest that the entire populace of the planet had their bodies dumped in that single place. It wouldn't have been practical, for a start.

It's explicitly stated in Agenda that some Decepticons were granted amnesty. But it's then stated that one was reprogrammed (or was it recommissioned?) as a Predacon. Only one? But then what happened to the others? They weren't reprogrammed, blatantly. If we take "reprogrammed as a Predacon" to mean "downsized" then it's a very simple and straight-forward reason for why there were larger robots running about on Cybertron. [for clarification's sake, it can be presumed that all the other Predacons were, like MicroMasters, a new breed, probably created during the latter stages of the war, thus explaining their segregation from the Maximals - after all, if they were all built after the war ended, they'd surely be Cybertronians]

"But why didn't they try and take over if they were bigger and everything?"

Because any amnesty comes with the implicit notion of "misbehave and we'll smack you down." The downsized TFs were more efficient, probably had greater numbers, and the larger ones likely had all their built-in weaponry decommissioned as part of the deal.

Sorted.

[ShadowSonic]

Decepticons and Predacons aren't on Cybertron though, they live on that moon with the the giant claw scars on it.

Bob and Larry said part of the peace treaty after the war was that the Cons and their descendants were exiled from Cybertron. This is why the Tripredacus council were on a space station instead of the planet, and why Dinobot would be considered a criminal if he were to set foot on Cybertron. They are all exiles that live on that moon, Charr and on space stations.

[The Last Autobot]

The size of the beast Warriors was more because of the modes they adopted in Earth than anything else.

No, that makes no sense. If that were true, Waspinator and Inferno would be the smallest Beast Warriors, given their alt modes, but they weren't. Rattrap was clearly shown to be several times larger than the Earth rat he followed around in the Predacon ship in one episode.

Cheetor and Tigatron were the exact size as the animals they were based.

Perhaps not all the Cybertronians accepted a size reduction during the upgrade and instead preferred to remain as they were?

There's no evidence to suggest that the entire populace of the planet had their bodies dumped in that single place. It wouldn't have been practical, for a start.

There s no evidence, granted.
But when you see the rests of the population they all consistently look bigger than the maximals. And I also doubt the ones they find were the exception.

[Señior's Covenant]

Bob and Larry said part of the peace treaty after the war was that the Cons and their descendants were exiled from Cybertron. This is why the Tripredacus council were on a space station instead of the planet, and why Dinobot would be considered a criminal if he were to set foot on Cybertron. They are all exiles that live on that moon, Charr and on space stations.

Where/when did they say this?

[Guest]

No, that makes no sense. If that were true, Waspinator and Inferno would be the smallest Beast Warriors, given their alt modes, but they weren't. Rattrap was clearly shown to be several times larger than the Earth rat he followed around in the Predacon ship in one episode.

Cheetor and Tigatron were the exact size as the animals they were based.

True, but the actual animals that their alt modes imitated aren't exactly what could be described as small.

[Death's Head]

Dinbot would have been a criminal because he helped Megatron steal the Golden Disk.

What you have to remember is that the Predacons aren't intrinsically "evil" - some of the better fanfic has come from portraying the Maximals as oppressors, and the Predacons as second-class Cybertronian citizens. After all, it's the Maximals who control all history on Cybertron - they classified the information on Starscream and most other past events. In all honesty, the Maximals (on Cybertron) seem more like the villians of the piece.

I imagine the reason the Tripredacus Council were on a space station is that it's probably hard to dispatch a secret agent from your home planet when it's ruled by your enemies.

Also, I thought it was common knowledge that almost all Maximals and Predacons had 'downsized' - obviously allowing for variations such as Depth Charge (who, as a former security robot, presumably had to be a little bigger than your average)?

[Emperor_Starscream]

well i tink the reduction was for save combustible and Besides this way maximals can control better the predacons.
this is more a who vs who question becose BM cheetor is strong and surely he can defeat a G1 normal seeker but he never defeat shockwave, megatron or galvatron and bumblubee or wheelie never will defeat rampage although they are but big than him