Magnus and Impactor

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:56 pm

KingMob wrote:It'd be neat to see someone do a story starring Impactor and Magnus...

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 3:39 pm

Love it.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 5:08 pm

please keep going!!!

Keep the chalky scratched look - seriously it really is so refreshing and perfectly fitting of the wreckers.

I so love it!!

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 7:41 pm

Who's going to be arse enough to vote 'No'?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 9:22 pm

Not I, said the fly.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:52 pm

More of the illustrated fiction please, it's spifferific.

Loving that transform sequence

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 10:54 pm

Well, ever the one to bow to public opinion, with six votes to zreo, I'vw decided to keep going.

(Although please bear in mind that I am making it up as I go along

)

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Sat Jun 18, 2005 11:46 pm

I suppose it looks sorta good. A style that it somewhat unusual for me.

I'm sure I get used to it.

Yes, do more.

But why do you use so much black? Sometimes I can hardly see shat. Please, use a little bit less of black and I'm sure it gets easier to follow.

Plus, if you ever want some nutty digital coloring, you can always ask me or any of the other members involved in similar hobbies and pursuits.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:31 pm

Predabot wrote:I suppose it looks sorta good. A style that it somewhat unusual for me. I'm sure I get used to it.

Faint praise as ever, thanks Pred.

Predabot wrote:But why do you use so much black?

Because the story is set underground?
To add to a dark atmosphere?
Because it means I don't have to draw too many backgrounds?
It never goes out of fashion?
Because I like it?
It's the new black?
Simon Furman came to me in a dream and told me to?

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:48 pm

But...depending on the light in the room, and the time of the day, and the monitor, I can see little to just about nothing of your story?

As you know from my avatar I've been in the "use too much black"-trap myself, so believe me, I can't see shat.

Post by **Kaylee** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 12:50 pm

Predabot wrote:I suppose it looks sorta good. A style that it somewhat unusual for me. I'm sure I get used to it.

Yes, do more.

But why do you use so much black? Sometimes I can hardly see shat. Please, use a little bit less of black and I'm sure it gets easier to follow.

Plus, if you ever want some nutty digital coloring, you can always ask me or any of the other members involved in similar hobbies and pursuits.

Do you ever get tired of putting other, very capable, people down to make yourself look good?

Very good rob- I think the dark atmosphere suits it perfectly.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:00 pm

Look Karl, my intent was not to put Rob down, or cause trouble, but if I did do so I apologise to MV.

He did ask for some opinion, and too me it was too dark. Simple as that. My advice stemmed from the fact that I've heard time and time again that my own work is too dark, and I acknowledge that it is/was.

And don't come draggin' anything about me wanting to put others down to make myself seem splendor or somethin'. 'Cause that's not true. There are many people/artists I look up to here at TransFans.

Peace out. (I'll of course still look at MV's comic)

Post by **Kaylee** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 1:18 pm

Predabot wrote:
He did ask for some opinion, and too me it was too dark. Simple as that. My advice stemmed from the fact that I've heard time and time again that my own work is too dark, and I acknowledge that it is/was.

he didn't ask for anything of the sort far as I can see. coupled with your back history for making vaguely insulting comments about other people's work when all they've done is their best.

And don't come draggin' anything about me wanting to put others down to make myself seem splendor or somethin'. 'Cause that's not true. There are many people/artists I look up to here at TransFans.

I'll do what I wish with or without your permission. If the hat fits, I suggest you wear it.

Peace out. (I'll of course still look at MV's comic)

How generous. I bet he's seeing the meaning to life once again. Just the thought of his doing more artwork and your saying "yeah well I guess it's kinda okay I suppose but if you want it done right let me do it."

Nobody has a problem with constructive criticism, your critiques are nothing of the sort however imo and generally patronising.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 2:04 pm

Keep it up, im enjoying it.

On the subject of lighting - and keeping it dark - I notice in the first page you do, the scratchy chalky bits of colour are stronger and in more contrast to the dark. as if light is reflecting of hard edges etc..

I say keep the black, but contrast edgey colours more... all good for me either way, I think you got it spot on in frame 1. but hey its a new style and im sure it takes alot of time and effort to refine it.

good stuff.

I love Impy

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 5:34 pm

Well, I reckon it looks perfect as it is. Couldn't get more fitting for the story it's telling.

Oh, and EmVee, it wasn't Simon Furman. It was me. I know, it was all a little fuzzy, because it was a dream, so I'll let you off for thinking I seemed more rotund, less bespectacled and less Bristolian, than I actually am.

And so, as Randy Quaid said in Independence Day:

Keep 'em comin'

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 6:05 pm

Predabot wrote:There are many people/artists I look up to here at TransFans.

That'll be me.

I'd like few more highlights - although the area is supposed to be dark, picking up a few glints (TFs ARE metal) here and there may help. Just a suggestion, so don't ride my back anyone.

Oh, go on then...

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:33 pm

Predabot wrote:As you know from my avatar I've been in the "use too much black"-trap myself, so believe me, I can't see shat.

Yeah...but your avatar still looks incomprehensible to me...if I didn't know it was the Fallen, I wouldn't know what the hell it was supposed to be. If you can't see shat, then in (the darkest panel I've done so far) page three panel one, what's going on?

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:39 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote: Yeah...but your avatar still looks incomprehensible to me...if I didn't know it was the Fallen, I wouldn't know what the hell it was supposed to be.

Sigh...no matter what I do it's the same. That avatar is my messed up child. I think because of the how his head is made up, it's why it's that way. Supposedly when I finish the next version I have to show all of his uggly mug. There'll be less of my shiny energy and darkness in that one too.

If you can't see shat, then in (the darkest panel I've done so far) page three panel one, what's going on?

Erm, some sort of sweep is on the ground, and Impactor is making some kind of joke?

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Sun Jun 19, 2005 9:54 pm

Predabot wrote:
If you can't see shat, then in (the darkest panel I've done so far) page three panel one, what's going on?
Erm, some sort of sweep is on the ground, and Impactor is making some kind of joke?

Gah. It's a seeker (conehead configuration) on the floor. A Sweep? What do you think I am? A cartoon fanboy? Sooty?

Yes Impactor is making some kind of joke. And there's someone else speaking...?

[edit] for tonight, merely this. will grow.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:47 am

Do I see a very early Optimus Prime design in there being used for Ultra? - ie the early image of OP in issue 1? - cool

On your 3rd page you did, I took it into photoshop - clicked auto levels. then manual adjusted the contrast.
to
brightness +6
contrast + 41

If u have a go, I was wondering what you thought?

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:58 am

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Do I see a very early Optimus Prime design in there being used for Ultra? - ie the early image of OP in issue 1? - cool

Agree on how cool this is.
I'm enjoying your work Emvee, and I'm digging the darkness and scratchy look. I got the impression that the story is set in an enclosed compound and that Impy and Magnus were loitering in shadows...Impy then stealthing about and capping folks, Magnus moving to cover an entranceway.
I don't know if this is an impression I'm supposed to be getting of course, but it does mean that the artwork is communicating an understandable and enjoyable narrative to me, that complements the dialogue and rendering technique of the characters; which btw I also agree with an earlier comment, the scratchy chalky look is neat and fits the Wreckers.
I.E. Job's a good'un.
Plus I think it's just fundamentally really neat to see an Impy/Magnus story.

This could be contrasted against the confused impression I got when looking at a certain other member's avatar, which initially just resembled a mississippi mud pie that someone had sat on and communicated nothing to me about the purpose of the avatar or what it represented except perhaps a strong fondness for things of dark brown colouration, or a monitor that needed to have it's own brightness/contrast levels adjusted.
Of course, it's changed for the better now Now it just reminds me of cheap and tacky holofoil colouring used endlessly on 80's Pannini sticker books, with the narrative connotations that implies. huzzah.

Also; well said Karl.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:43 am

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:On your 3rd page you did, I took it into photoshop - clicked auto levels. then manual adjusted the contrast.
to
brightness +6
contrast + 41

If u have a go, I was wondering what you thought?

I'll check that out tonight

I'm not averse to a bit of tweaking if it improves the story.

KM - spot on, that's exactly the scenario I was trying to describe.

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Do I see a very early Optimus Prime design in there being used for Ultra? - ie the early image of OP in issue 1? - cool

Yup. Incidentally for early-comic design spotters, as well as OP's first Cybertronian alt-mode for Magnus, the Decepticon Impactor squashes resembles the Decepticon techs we see in #103 (another Decepticon of this design would later become Straxatron) and the second robot Magnus is tangling with is loosely based on Straxus's ill-fated lackey Crosscut. I've been hanging out at the obscure TFs site too much, methinks.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:38 pm

KingMob wrote:Now it just reminds me of cheap and tacky holofoil colouring used endlessly on 80's Pannini sticker books, with the narrative connotations that implies. huzzah.

Also; well said Karl.

May I see a pic of that? It sounds interesting. I'm guessing there was one with TF?

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:16 pm

I've still got my TF Panini album somewhere. It was very shiney. I got the Armada one too.
Liking that side-on pic too.

I thought Pred's avatar was Optimus when I first saw it. I don't think it's too bad - we need a bit of mystery in our lives.

Who said that!?!

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:26 pm

*crawls in slowly*

P....please........more...exclusive.............TF.....quality..material........from......

*Hops up into a back flip, extends arms in a presenting manner once on feet*

...EMVEE!

^_^

Pissin' Poonani · Post by **Pissin' Poonani** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:38 pm

Great stuff Rob. More!

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:45 pm

No one's even jokingly selected "No" on the poll at this point. It's that good.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 7:55 pm

We're just too friggin' polite. That and I just posted some comic pages too, so I don't want to rock the boat.

Señior's Covenant · Post by **Señior's Covenant** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 8:46 pm

Autobloke wrote:We're just too friggin' polite.

Hi, you must be new. I'm Señior's Covenant. Welcome to TransFans!

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:33 pm

Not new - just optimistic.

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Magnus and Impactor

Shoul I do more of this?