New Furman interview re: Regeneration One...

DJ_Convoy · Post by **DJ_Convoy** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:24 pm

...with some new two page spreads by Wildman! It's back!!!

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page ... e&id=36515

Nurse, the screens!

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Wed Jan 25, 2012 11:10 pm

Great stuff, cheers for the link.

Magnus back! Galvatron too!

Who's Circuit Smasher?

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 12:57 am

Magnus vs. Galvatron! Yeah!

Proportions are a bit off on some of Andy's art. Hope he's not lost his game.

Post by **Kaylee** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:02 am

Squee!

Post by **Best First** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:28 am

Given that twenty years have passed since "Transformers" #80's release, not all of today's readers may be familiar with the classic series, although IDW has released several trade paperback collections since acquiring the license.

**** me we are old.

Spencer you need to pick us all up some free comic book business - the UK usually suffers on this front and you are our man in the states.

No pressure!

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:11 pm

A care package to the Transfans? Anything else? American cigarettes, breakfast cereal, rough husky women?

DJ_Convoy · Post by **DJ_Convoy** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:15 pm

I'm sorry guys- if I had thought about it, I could've ordered extras from my mail order service...

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:16 pm

DJ_Convoy wrote:I'm sorry guys- if I had thought about it, I could've ordered extras from my mail order service...

Wait--comics or husky women?

DJ_Convoy · Post by **DJ_Convoy** » Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:20 pm

Women, obv. Big, hulking ladies who may pose provocatively with your TF collections.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:39 am

Seriously I'm giddy with excitement.

That interview read like someone went in my mind and pulled out all my wishes and questions I've had for 20 years!

Magnus is going to top galvy this time isn't he?

After all this time did u ever think u would get this comic?

Amazing! Simply amazing....

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 11:01 pm

What's Jhaxius doing on that "We're summarizing US Marvel G1 real quick like" cover? It's got the continuity nut in me all sorts of confused.

I hope it doesn't get TOO nostalgia rich. I'm much more interested in seeing where Furman always wanted the story to go as opposed to a "Danny Finkelberg goes to the Cosmic Carnival on a War World and becomes King of the Giant Women" tilt. That deserves its own series. But I'm not worried.

Anyway, can't wait, squee, OMG, and all that jazz.

Oh yes, and as another Yank, I'll do my best to scoop up as many as I can.

DJ_Convoy · Post by **DJ_Convoy** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:13 am

"Danny Finkelberg goes to the Cosmic Carnival on a War World and becomes King of the Giant Women"

I would read that one million times in a row. Bomber Bill better show up...!

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:11 pm

Aw bless Furman, "I'm never one for looking back but have to now as IDW won't let me near the books they care about due to me accidentally making a complete and utter [composite word including 'f*ck'] up of the ...tion stuff to the point they thought Shane McCarthy would do a better job".

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:03 pm

inflatable dalek wrote:Aw bless Furman, "I'm never one for looking back but have to now as IDW won't let me near the books they care about due to me accidentally making a complete and utter **** up of the ...tion stuff to the point they thought Shane McCarthy would do a better job".

I dont really see how he ballsed up 'Tion.

It was only the final arc which sucked, and that was rushed to accommodate AHM. The rest of it was excellent.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:52 pm

The 'tions were a great story. Any assistant editor at Marvel could have told you that spreading them out over four series, with supplementary Spotlight issues, was just going to confuse the hell out of the reader.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 5:16 pm

Robert's respectful use of prior authors work has actually got me rereading a lot of the Furman run, and dear God it doesn't stand up well. Infiltraion would work as a slow build up if it had a decent pay off down the line, Stormbringer is the first example of IDW flip flopping due to reader feedback and is fairly terrible (if Thunderwing is that easy to take down how was he a threat in the first place?), Escalation is the best of a sorry bunch even if there are plenty of dead end plotlines in there and Devastation... Well, that's got all sorts of special problems. It actually reads as if it were being rewritten as is was being published to accommodate AHM, the stuff with Hound is unintentionally hilarious, "Come to Earth... no, on second thoughts don't". Wasting pages on that, Dealer and a page oN Grimlock that was done again in his Spotlight rather than properly resolving the long running Ironhide thing properly is just bad writing even if his back was up against the wall.

That leaves Revelation, which starts off OK but ends up a complete mess because it spends too much time on Sideswipe and Dealer rather than the actual important plots, and Maximum Dinobots which conversely doesn't have enough plot for five issues so we get Swoop doing his whole "I hate you Grimlock so we're leaving...no, we're back... we're going... no we're back for real this time" skit about 50000 times whilst the other Dinobots and Monsterbots contribute pretty much nothing.

Furman could have very easily wrapped everything up neatly in those two minis with a lot more common sense regardless of the mess AHM was making. Instead he completely ****** it up. Leaving us with the earlier Spotlight issues which are mostly undone as standalone tales by their insistence on tying into the ultimately pointless Dead Universe tat.

IDW were perfectly right to decide Furman wasn't doing good enough, it was replacing him with a worse writer not once, but twice that was the super stupid choice.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:59 pm

inflatable dalek wrote:Robert's respectful use of prior authors work has actually got me rereading a lot of the Furman run, and dear God it doesn't stand up well. Infiltration would work as a slow build up if it had a decent pay off down the line, Stormbringer is the first example of IDW flip flopping due to reader feedback and is fairly terrible (if Thunderwing is that easy to take down how was he a threat in the first place?), Escalation is the best of a sorry bunch even if there are plenty of dead end plotlines in there and Devastation... Well, that's got all sorts of special problems. It actually reads as if it were being rewritten as is was being published to accommodate AHM, the stuff with Hound is unintentionally hilarious, "Come to Earth... no, on second thoughts don't". Wasting pages on that, Dealer and a page oN Grimlock that was done again in his Spotlight rather than properly resolving the long running Ironhide thing properly is just bad writing even if his back was up against the wall.

That leaves Revelation, which starts off OK but ends up a complete mess because it spends too much time on Sideswipe and Dealer rather than the actual important plots, and Maximum Dinobots which conversely doesn't have enough plot for five issues so we get Swoop doing his whole "I hate you Grimlock so we're leaving...no, we're back... we're going... no we're back for real this time" skit about 50000 times whilst the other Dinobots and Monsterbots contribute pretty much nothing.

Furman could have very easily wrapped everything up neatly in those two minis with a lot more common sense regardless of the mess AHM was making. Instead he completely ****** it up. Leaving us with the earlier Spotlight issues which are mostly undone as standalone tales by their insistence on tying into the ultimately pointless Dead Universe tat.

IDW were perfectly right to decide Furman wasn't doing good enough, it was replacing him with a worse writer not once, but twice that was the super stupid choice.

Hmmm.... HMMMM...

Furman's IDW run was a bit like Paul Jenkins' run on Spider-Man. Workmanly serviceable, with some odd tangents. Confusing at worst, sometimes brilliant. I really thought it was better than you're giving it credit for. Escalation was amazing, and showcased the whole political-undermining plot quite well. Devastation was full of great moments. Infiltration and Stormbringer were slight duds, but the Spotlights were generally great. Hot Rod and Shockwave's particularly blew me away.

Had I been in his place under the same constraints, I would have done a few things differently. I would have moved the plot of Escalation (Brasnya, Prime, Megs) to the first miniseries and put the Starscream plot on the back burner. I would have actually destroyed Cybertron in Stormbringer, at least as much as IDW would have let me. I rather liked Devastation, actually, but I would have ditched The Magnificence. Arcee + other intelligence could have made up for that easily.

It reminds me of Furman's work on Armada/Energon. It was always entertaining, solid, and full of great plot twists. He's kind of the hamburgers-and-fries writer of the TFs, while Costa and McCarthy spend a lot of time trying to whip up tartare and failing.

I do remember that, about the time of AHM, people were curious if someone could take the TFs in a never-before seen direction, and the general feeling was that Furman couldn't quite do that. It only took them until 2012 to figure that **** out.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:06 pm

bumblemusprime wrote: I really thought it was better than you're giving it credit for.

Word holmes.

Mr_Tigg · Post by **Mr_Tigg** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:11 pm

inflatable dalek wrote:Robert's respectful use of prior authors work has actually got me rereading a lot of the Furman run, and dear God it doesn't stand up well. Infiltraion would work as a slow build up if it had a decent pay off down the line, Stormbringer is the first example of IDW flip flopping due to reader feedback and is fairly terrible (if Thunderwing is that easy to take down how was he a threat in the first place?), Escalation is the best of a sorry bunch even if there are plenty of dead end plotlines in there and Devastation... Well, that's got all sorts of special problems. It actually reads as if it were being rewritten as is was being published to accommodate AHM, the stuff with Hound is unintentionally hilarious, "Come to Earth... no, on second thoughts don't". Wasting pages on that, Dealer and a page oN Grimlock that was done again in his Spotlight rather than properly resolving the long running Ironhide thing properly is just bad writing even if his back was up against the wall.

That leaves Revelation, which starts off OK but ends up a complete mess because it spends too much time on Sideswipe and Dealer rather than the actual important plots, and Maximum Dinobots which conversely doesn't have enough plot for five issues so we get Swoop doing his whole "I hate you Grimlock so we're leaving...no, we're back... we're going... no we're back for real this time" skit about 50000 times whilst the other Dinobots and Monsterbots contribute pretty much nothing.

Furman could have very easily wrapped everything up neatly in those two minis with a lot more common sense regardless of the mess AHM was making. Instead he completely ****** it up. Leaving us with the earlier Spotlight issues which are mostly undone as standalone tales by their insistence on tying into the ultimately pointless Dead Universe tat.

IDW were perfectly right to decide Furman wasn't doing good enough, it was replacing him with a worse writer not once, but twice that was the super stupid choice.

Disagree on oh so many levels. If it wasn't for Infiltration I wouldn't be collecting modern TF comics or Generations figures.

IDW's relaunch (and Furman) single handedly re-sparked my interest in the franchise.

I admit Furman's comics aren't quite in the same league as the likes of Fables but they're still pretty darn decent if you ask me.

DJ_Convoy · Post by **DJ_Convoy** » Mon Jan 30, 2012 4:42 pm

For the lows (Inflitration), there were an awful lot of highs (Escalation, SP: Shockwave, SP: Prime). I think everything was really firing on all cylinders right before the axe fell.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:39 pm

I'm going to pee in my pants with excitement!

Oh wait. I did. 21 years. Darn prostate.

Reflex · Post by **Reflex** » Fri Feb 03, 2012 5:23 am

Final Optimus Prime Vs Megatron!!!!!!!!!!!

Wait,
Does this mean we don't get to see how Megatron became Galvatron? Or where Galvatron really came from in this story? I mean, technically it could have all happened in The Movie, but with a few exceptions (only one instance I'm 100% sure on), doesn't seem like the comic books reached into the cartoon universe any.

So I kinda hate to point it out, but here's one more loose end....
But there's a few issues to go,
And hell, it'll be awhile before I even get to read 80 for the first time.

Inflatable-

I'll transform to that!!!
I only wonder if how you put it is really what happened. Certainly makes sense.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:20 pm

It's been covered already. Read the previous issues

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Sat Feb 04, 2012 12:28 pm

Just reread the complete mess that is the final Revelation issue, and was actually staggered to be reminded that, even at this late stage of the game Jetfire's years in the future summing up of subsequent events teases a few things that ultimately never happened, most obviously "The Machination Empire". Considering Furman knew at this point he had only the five more issues to wrap everything up it's amazing plans weren't locked down so soon before Maximum Dinobots actually started. Did some genuine threat posed by the Machination get chucked out the plot so Swoop could do his" I'm off!... No I'm back" thing for a third time?