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Now that is an improvement, stuff happening rather than lots of random fade-outs and people looking awed. Much better show.
Now that is an improvement, stuff happening rather than lots of random fade-outs and people looking awed. Much better show.
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Love.Is it wrong to cry with excitement over a film based on toys? Oh, we know it's not going to win any Oscars (well, except effects ones - look how shiny and photo-real!) and, if you think about it, the plot is as daft as a box of drunk badgers. But the robots! The big fighty robots! With the smashing! And the being one thing, then another! One, like, really big thing, then another really big thing – with guns!
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transformers summarised in all it's sillinessBrendocon wrote:Love.Is it wrong to cry with excitement over a film based on toys? Oh, we know it's not going to win any Oscars (well, except effects ones - look how shiny and photo-real!) and, if you think about it, the plot is as daft as a box of drunk badgers. But the robots! The big fighty robots! With the smashing! And the being one thing, then another! One, like, really big thing, then another really big thing – with guns!
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That's the trailer I saw as I was getting comfy in my seat just before watching Spidey 3.Karl Lynch wrote:Linky linky
Now that is an improvement, stuff happening rather than lots of random fade-outs and people looking awed. Much better show.
The responses from the various people I was with were that it looked like a must-see for the summer.
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It's humans, humans, humans throughout the whole movie. The transformers don't have a single scene without one.Obfleur wrote:I still can't believe how deep that pool is
It looks like a cool action movie though. I'll definitely go see it!
Does anyone know if the movie will focus on humans (Spike and his girl) - or will they step aside when Optimus shows up?
Lots of people say, "It looks like a cool movie.", but they always forget to ask themselves, "Is this truly a Transformers movie?".
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And my response to that is the same as whenever anybody starts throwing around the term "true Transformers" or "proper Transformers". - Transformers is whatever Hasbro/Takara/Kenner/whoever throw the name on.Hot Shot wrote: but they always forget to ask themselves, "Is this truly a Transformers movie?".
They are robots. They are from Cybertron. They transform. That's about the only workable definition you can apply.
I don't see how there being lots of humans in the film (shock horror, it's set on Earth after all... the "their war, our world" tagline should have been a giveaway in regards to the perspective the story would be told from) makes it any less "truly" Transformers than say... Masterforce.
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Spidys second trailer make it looks pretty ******* darn spectacular, M.Bay is still a dick tho, lets be clear, but yes, when I just saw starscream pull off a proper 1980's cartoon transformation a bit of wee leaked out...
Hey if its good, then perhaps they would have Unicron in a sequal, that I would sell my soul too see in CGI
Hey if its good, then perhaps they would have Unicron in a sequal, that I would sell my soul too see in CGI
When you think about it, having humans be present for a lot of the movie is necessary.Hot Shot wrote: It's humans, humans, humans throughout the whole movie. The transformers don't have a single scene without one.
I mean, part of the awe of this is that it's new and fresh. If we had two hours of just robots fighting and transforming, by the end of the hour, that "been there, done that" kind of feeling would start to creep in.
This way, with a TF scene here and there, we remain at the edge of our seats, waiting, the whole two hours.
So I think it works.
Not in a comic though.
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Hasbro agreed to make the toys before character designing began, so they were obligated to call those...monstrocities, "Transformers". Bay threw the name on first.Brendocon wrote:And my response to that is the same as whenever anybody starts throwing around the term "true Transformers" or "proper Transformers". - Transformers is whatever Hasbro/Takara/Kenner/whoever throw the name on.Hot Shot wrote: but they always forget to ask themselves, "Is this truly a Transformers movie?".
Fixed.They are robots, not silicone-evolved creatures. They are from Cybertron. They transform. They aren't gruesome monsters. Most of the bad guys are intellegent. They aren't skeletal messes. That's about the only workable definition you can apply.
Masterforce was part of the G1 storyline with several reasons for it's portrayal, therefore it is excused. Also, I've never seen a Transformers series that was an alien horror story that glorified the US Army.I don't see how there being lots of humans in the film (shock horror, it's set on Earth after all... the "their war, our world" tagline should have been a giveaway in regards to the perspective the story would be told from) makes it any less "truly" Transformers than say... Masterforce.
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Wow. You're a massive ****.Hot Shot wrote:Fixed.They are robots, not silicone-evolved creatures. They are from Cybertron. They transform. They aren't gruesome monsters. Most of the bad guys are intellegent. They aren't skeletal messes. That's about the only workable definition you can apply.
I suppose you're ignoring the Terrorcons, who are gruesome monsters... oh, the Monster Pretenders! Bludgeon was skeletal in a literal sense, half the original Pretender inner robots in pretty much every other sense. Cartoon Megatron was an idiot. Oh, and Beast Machines goes against pretty much everything you've said too, but I suppose that doesn't count because you don't want it to.
You're obviously working on the "Transformers means what I want it to mean" definition. Whereas the rest of us are lumbered with hard evidence.
I'm going to end this post now, my point made to those observers with brains, lest my continued rebuttal lend you the misapprehension that your comments are in any way credible.
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ist not really for you to say what others do and don't think is it?Karl Lynch wrote:I think everyone here thought "BWEEEEEEE! THE TRANSFORMERS NOISE!" at a certain point
Only reason I didn't is because locations mean I have to make a choice between DSL and sound these days... though it fills me with fanboyish glee to read about it!
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No, I just couldn't be bothered to explain how thin of a definition you gave. Minus the Cybertron part, you would be describing GoBots, R.E.V.s, various Power Rangers, and the slew of Chinese knock-offs that flood eBay.Brendocon wrote:Wow. You're a massive ****.Hot Shot wrote:Fixed.They are robots, not silicone-evolved creatures. They are from Cybertron. They transform. They aren't gruesome monsters. Most of the bad guys are intellegent. They aren't skeletal messes. That's about the only workable definition you can apply.
I forgot about the terrorcons and BM, but they turned into animals. They have an excuse. The pretenders turned into monsters to scare the humans away from their plans, so they're excused too. Cartoon Megatron wasn't stupid. Moronic, but not stupid. The movie 'cons are stupid enough to just deviate from their mission just to kill three stupid harmless fleshies that are stranded in the desert. Also, look at the stats on the back of the movie boxes. Their intellegence has been knocked down to sixes and fives.I suppose you're ignoring the Terrorcons, who are gruesome monsters... oh, the Monster Pretenders! Bludgeon was skeletal in a literal sense, half the original Pretender inner robots in pretty much every other sense. Cartoon Megatron was an idiot. Oh, and Beast Machines goes against pretty much everything you've said too, but I suppose that doesn't count because you don't want it to.
I have provided hard evidence that you choose to look past. Both sides of an arguement will have evidence. In the end, we will know who was right on 7.4.7. , but I will still not understand why you and others defend Bay.You're obviously working on the "Transformers means what I want it to mean" definition. Whereas the rest of us are lumbered with hard evidence.
I'm going to end this post now, my point made to those observers with brains, lest my continued rebuttal lend you the misapprehension that your comments are in any way credible.
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Nobody's defending him afaics. Most people here think he and Don Murphy are a pair of collosal nozzles (if I may speak for them, based on some of our older discussions ). We all have our various faults and annoyances with the movie- uppermost being it's almost certain to contain precious little plot or character development, just stuff blowing up.
That said, the stuff blowing up looks pretty cool and aside from their faces and feather-duster type claws the designs aren't too bad imo.
Regarding what a Transformer is, I think officially you're not going to come up with anything better than something labelled by Hasbro as such. I used to own a bunch of toys I would still refer to as Transformers- made by Takara and other companies before Transformers was even conceived of as a brand name- because the term is very loose. It's a robot that turns into something I think is basically the public perception of it.
That said, the stuff blowing up looks pretty cool and aside from their faces and feather-duster type claws the designs aren't too bad imo.
Regarding what a Transformer is, I think officially you're not going to come up with anything better than something labelled by Hasbro as such. I used to own a bunch of toys I would still refer to as Transformers- made by Takara and other companies before Transformers was even conceived of as a brand name- because the term is very loose. It's a robot that turns into something I think is basically the public perception of it.