Sci-Fi Wire report from Transformers movie set (spoilers)

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:56 am

http://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.ph ... 0&id=37687

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:12 am

Burning Furbys are always fun.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:06 pm

the glasses thing sounds ruuuuubbbbiiiish.

Post by **Kaylee** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:23 pm

That sounds absolutely god awful.

'We strive for realism' he says, whilst directing a film which runs on the central premise of a kid finding magical glasses that tell him where to find 'the energon cube' before he tries to sell it on ebay and gets found out by the Transformers.

Jesus.

Good to hear a 'secret military organisation' will be involved too... bet that'll be some original take involving a megalomaniac commander, shadowy methods and resources etc. etc.

Where's Pat Lee? Shouldn't he be a consultant?

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:55 pm

Magic glasses... ffs, it gets worse!

Again, the premise is simple, why [composite word including 'f*ck'] around with it?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:35 pm

Oh, sweet, Bay's idea of a shout out to fans is to burn Furbys. Like "Look at this short lived toy success by Hasbro from the past! It's just like Transformers!"

F****** glasses. You can't do Transformers First Contact better than the comic, imho.

Post by **Kaylee** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:38 pm

Shanti418 wrote:Oh, sweet, Bay's idea of a shout out to fans is to burn Furbys. Like "Look at this short lived toy success by Hasbro from the past! It's just like Transformers!"

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:54 pm

Are they 3d glasses like David Tennant wears in Who? Because that would be cool.

Post by **Kaylee** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 8:13 pm

I see an energon cube! Log my laptop into ebay and pass it here!

Autobot 420 · Post by **Autobot 420** » Tue Aug 29, 2006 9:49 pm

Magic Galsses Jesus F***ing Christ, they can't be serious. why don't they just Call it Harry Potter and the Energon Cube!

JawBreaker · Post by **JawBreaker** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:41 am

http://www.thetf.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=5320&PN=1

As much as the Ebay/Glasses shizzle shook me a little, i have to say this interview (for those that haven’t seen it) well... it restores a little faith.
I think...
Kinda...
Ok i just want to leave again with my legs intact..

Autobot 420 · Post by **Autobot 420** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:28 am

JawBreaker wrote:http://www.thetf.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=5320&PN=1

As much as the Ebay/Glasses shizzle shook me a little, i have to say this interview (for those that haven’t seen it) well... it restores a little faith.
I think...
Kinda...
Ok i just want to leave again with my legs intact..

ack! my stupid pc dosen't have windows media player can anyone tell me what it said?

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:16 am

JawBreaker wrote:http://www.thetf.net/forum_posts.asp?TID=5320&PN=1

I have to say, I quite liked their attitude.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:46 am

spiderfrommars wrote:I have to say, I quite liked their attitude.

Same here...they seem to be caught between a rock and a hard place. Murphy's attitude to the haters is pretty much the same as mine right now, we really haven't seen anything yet. I'm going to try and keep my mouth shut until I've seen this thing in the cinema, and if it sucks then I'll shout it all over the internet, but the frequent comparisons with X-Men are very reassuring.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 12:32 pm

Did I read that right?

Magic ****** glasses? This is sounding like Optimus and the Chocolate Factory.

Is this Bumblebee in Wonderland? Can we expect Frenzy puffing on a giant mushroom?

Guess I will reserve judgement.....hmmmmm.....too late.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:07 pm

X Men comparisons are good. Except, when you do the math, it turns out that

Bryan Singer > Michael Bay + 1000

I WILL say I liked the attitude. I hate how wheneever anyone asks Tom about being loyal to the material, he always just throws out TF vernacular like he's pissing on a fire. "Sure I like Transformers! Optimus Prime! Megatron! Headmasters! Beast Wars! See? I like Transformers!"

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:38 pm

The thing is - we have seen stuff? - Yes I can imagine that the new megatron will look very amazing, well done animation department, but will it be a transformer?

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:29 pm

I wrote that above before I'd seen the Megatron designs (they were taken down at AICN).

I have revised my opinion to:

as it's kind of hard to put into words.

Post by **Kaylee** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:32 pm

I'm not sure why the big players on this movie keep defending decisions which just sound freaking stupid by saying "Well X-Men turned out okay, didn't it?"

AFAIK X-Men had a totally different director, writer, cast, composer... in fact their only commonality is that repulsive blob Don Murphy.

Hardly inspires confidence. Sounds more like someone driving around a muddy field, despite their passenger complaining it's a wrong turn, constantly repeating "Hey it's okay- I found Exeter that time didn't I?"

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:43 pm

Especially seeing as X-Men wasn't actually that good...

Post by **Kaylee** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 3:54 pm

Meh, it was alright. At least the closest they got to character redesigns was giving them different coloured outfits. They didn't turn Magneto into a giant black spikey rock-lord type thing!

Plot was so so, but again no magic glasses or ebay...

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:31 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:I wrote that above before I'd seen the Megatron designs (they were taken down at AICN).

I have revised my opinion to:

as it's kind of hard to put into words.

So are you saying there have been so many iterations of Megatron that this design isn't entirely out of the realm of reason, or are you saying that it sticks out like a sore thumb?

I mean, that lineup doesn't even take into account the Armada/Energon/G2/Beasts versions, let alone the RiD version.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:23 pm

I must admit, this movie does have entertainment value...

I mean there's the people claiming it's an abomination that these things have been given the names of beloved characters... reminds me of, oh every new series ever? The only major difference being that we were sold this movie on the premise of it being "G1" instead of a new franchise.

And then there's [often the same] people claiming it's an abomination that these things have been given new names instead of being pre-existing characters. Oftentimes these people will be the ones extolling the virtues of the original movie, which existed solely to push brand new characters at us.

It's awesome even before you throw in Teh Magic Specs of Doom!

Post by **Kaylee** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:48 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:I wrote that above before I'd seen the Megatron designs (they were taken down at AICN).

I have revised my opinion to:

as it's kind of hard to put into words.

Most Megatron's are bloody stupid anyway so what difference will this one make?

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:00 pm

He sticks out like a sore thumb - that transtech line has a spook megs design...

Even the transtech one looks better.

My problem is- I dont mind optimus is a big truck, good. flames is bad - but that image of him transformed makes him look less bulky and to be honest after all the hyper over realism Optimus looks un-realistic.

Now megatron - whoah! he looks utterly alien, so I thought of this, perhaps thats his cybertron mode or somthing where they all look like metal humanoid insects or somthing.

why couldnt I just see a Tank stand upinto a robot - seems ok with bumblebee even if the name is stupid on a hotrod character...

Post by **Kaylee** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 8:14 pm

Trnastech megs is awesome

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:03 pm

and even looks like a transformer and megatron at the same time! - wow!

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Wed Aug 30, 2006 9:42 pm

Gosh. I just realised, the same way 'Blackout' and 'Brawl' were real names of the new characters, the "Energon cube" will be just that, an ENERGON cube. No Matrix. One freaking Energon cube, which, in every TF storyline so far can be found and manufactured easily everywhere.

Brendocon - I wouldn't mind new characters in, say, a new series like the Cybertron/Energon was. But, with Hasbro restarting G1 with Classics and Titanium, it struck me as odd that Bay simply introduces new characters because, for example, he wants a Con police car. Lame.

That's Transtech Megs? So that's what the origin of the monstorsity is. I'm glad they never made that into a toy... looks nothing like Megs.

And please, Megatron has been many things surely, but two things are mostly true about his form:

-He almost always has a huge cannon/gun
-He usually transforms into something that's armed to the teeth.

Btw, that big-headed Megs is funny. Is that an actual toy?

Frankly, if they wanted an 'alien' Megs, they should have used the Ultra-Megatron design from Zone. That is simply the old G1 design updated and cybertronised, just like the TWW one.

And uh, magic glasses? Ebay? Sheesh. I guess we'll see a scene where Starscream gets mail: "Hi, SWindle here. Guess what I found browsing Ebay..."

Overall, director Bay told SCI FI Wire that the movie strives for realism, despite its cartoony origins. "I only wanted to do Transformers if I could do it realistic," Bay said in an interview. "And from what I've seen and what we've done with our digital studies, putting it in real-world stuff, that is lots of effects around that are real effects, that's how we make it realistic." When Bay got the first call from producer Steven Spielberg, he said, "My first thought was, 'Nah, I'm not interested.' And just because I thought, 'OK, how am I going to do a toy movie?' And then I realized, when I went to Hasbro, 'OK, start over and go for [a] realistic alien-invasion-robot movie on Earth.' And so, with that thinking in mind, that's how I went about it."

A director doing a TF movie with THAT attitude? I mean, heck did he ever read say, "National Interest" or "All this and civil war 2"? What cannot be made to look realistic about giant robot war on earth?

I wish Zemeckis would have done the directing, as the first rumors stated...