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New Simon Furman Interview

Post by Aardvark » Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:45 pm

Originally reported by Geo at the IDW Boards. A lot of reveals and spoilers so look away if that's not your cup of tea.



http://comicnewsi.com/article.php?catid=208&itemid=8746
Interview - Simon Furman Talks Stormbringer


The Transformers comics are back BIG TIME! If you've been out of the loop on what's going on with Transformers comics - it is time to get back in. Fans of the Generation 1 series both old and new will be excited to know what's brewing inside Simon Furman's head. He is taking the G1 Universe to an all new high with the Stormbringer series. Tobias May of Comic News International recently interviewed Mr Furman about the series and what's coming our way.

CNI: You've written Transformers comics for Marvel UK, Marvel US, Dreamwave, and now IDW. How is it that you keep coming up with new stories and avoid repeating previous tales? What type of writing process do you go through?

Simon: The last thing I want to do is tell the same stories over again. So I'm always looking for new angles, new possibilities. I was therefore delighted when Chris Ryall and Dan Taylor (at IDW) expressed an interest in pretty much starting from scratch in a contemporary setting. This was, strangely, something I'd never done with Transformers. I'd always come in partway through the saga, piggybacking my stories onto established continuity. Sure, I took it in a few different directions over the years, most notably with the 'future' stories I did in TFUK and 'War Within' for Dreamwave, but I'd never actually got to do 'my' version of Transformers. So Infiltration/Escalation (plus Stormbringer and the 'spotlight' one-shots, all of which tie in to the same, cohesive TF Universe we're creating here) have got me excited like never before. The stories are just kind of pouring out of me at the moment. I'm even using the one-shots to lay the seeds of stories that will impact on the core series much later on.

CNI: Does Stormbringer take place within the same continuity established by Infiltration? If yes, at what point in time does the story take place in relation to Infiltration (some years before, directly afterwards, etc...)

Simon: Stormbringer runs more or less parallel with Infiltration (and then feeds into Escalation). You'll see the odd direct mirror scene or cause and effect. One example: when Megatron (in Infiltration #4) says "Yes. Especially Cybertron," you get to see who he's saying it to (and what it implies) in Stormbringer #3. By the end of Infiltration #6, Stormbringer is done and dusted, as the appearance of a certain key character underlines. But Stormbringer also flashes back to a much earlier confrontation on Cybertron, so you get that too. It also sets up more stuff for the future. Really, it's got a bit of everything.



CNI: Which Autobots and Decepticons can we expect to see as the key players in this story? Grimlock or Ultra Magnus by any chance?

Simon: No Grimlock. No Ultra Magnus. But... I wouldn't rule out either appearing (either as lead or supporting characters) in the one-shots. Stormbringer's main protagonist is Thunderwing, and pitted against him we have the likes of Optimus Prime, Jetfire, Springer (and the Wreckers), the Technobots, the Predacons and more besides.

CNI: Will you tackle some of these characters in a different manner than you have in the past? For example, Ratchet's character in Infiltration was very different from what we're used to. Will any other Transformers, such as Jetfire, go through similar character overhauls?

Simon: Definitely. Though I'm always working from the established character profiles, I'm looking to surprise and tinker wherever possible. I don't want these to be exactly the characters you've seen before. For example, Hot Rod. I've taken key elements of the character (brash, hot-headed, cocky) and gone in a whole new direction with what makes him tick, and what kind of hothead he is. I really want to defy long-time fans' expectations, and give new readers a sense that they're getting a 'whole' character, from scratch.

CNI: Will we see more Cybertronian vehicle/robot modes reminiscent of War Within?

Simon: Absolutely. No one will have an Earth-style mode until there's a good reason for them to have one (which, basically, is... they're on Earth, so in local disguise). When Megatron first shows up on Earth, he's still in his Cybertronian form, and because (at first) he has no intention of staying, doesn't bother to refit himself. By Escalation #2, he's decided to hang around, and at that point goes with a local alt. mode configuration. But I should make it clear: these are not War Within versions. Not exactly. Don, EJ, Nick (and others who are currently working on the series) are redesigning everyone. Sure, you'll see elements of War Within designs, but these are purely Cybertronian forms.

CNI: How will this Cybertron be different from the one we know?

Simon: It's in a lot worse shape. For the Autobots (and Decepticons) in Stormbringer, it's far from a happy homecoming.

CNI: How will the history and origins of the Transformers themselves differ from what we've seen in previous incarnations of the cartoon and comic?

Simon: For the time being, I'm staying away from origins, etc. Certainly, we're not in any hurry to get into planet devouring demigods and the like. That's not to say I haven't thought about the very beginning, but we may never actually get there. Certainly, there are mysteries and questions from and about the dim distant past, but I'm of the opinion it's not as important as where we are now, and all that's going to happen. But, assuming we delve into a definitive origin, it will not be what's gone before. Or not exactly. I don't want to rehash/retread anything, big or small.

CNI: Are they a slave race of the Quintessons, the children of Primus, or something else entirely?

Simon: No comment.

CNI: Without giving away too much, what kind of revelations do you have in store for the readers?

Simon: Heaps of revelations (or at least, teases of revelations). The machinations of Shockwave, the mystery of the 'first' Ark, the 'other' Transformers, the quest for the Magnificence, the Reapers. And that's the big stuff, on Earth, we're about to learn just how far-reaching the Decepticons' influence really is, what the Machination really want and what reinforcements both Prime and Megatron are going to throw at the escalating crisis/conflict. Phew!

CNI: I've seen images of Thunderwing floating around the internet, will he be involved in this storyline?

Simon: He's Stormbringer's big bad. But I have a sneaking suspicion his story (after the four issues are done) isn't over. Certainly, the legacy of what he's done (to himself and to Cybertron and a certain other planet) will continue to have consequences and repercussions.

CNI: Will he once again be obsessed with possessing the Autobot Matrix?

Simon: No.

CNI: As I'm writing this, Beast Wars is now complete, and Infiltration is almost there as well. What other TF projects do you have on the way besides Stormbringer?

Simon: Up and coming, we have the Spotlight one-shots (Shockwave gets us up and running in September, followed by Nightbeat, then Hot Rod and... well, you'll have to wait and see). Then there's the Beast Wars Profiles series (which I'm co-writing with Ben Yee, who was the consultant on the TV show), and soon after that a second Beast Wars miniseries (which draws on elements from the Profiles book). Ben and I worked hard to make one big (cohesive) BW Universe (from the somewhat disparate US and Japanese TV shows), and that process of uniting/defining the entire span of BW continues in the second miniseries. And of course there's Escalation, and then Devastation. Oops, did I say too much?

CNI: Will we see a second Beast Wars mini-series? I'd love to see more of Beast Wars Grimlock.

Simon: More BW... ye-es! More Grimlock... ye-es!

CNI: Is there any chance that War Within: Age of Wrath will be completed, or Primeval Dawn even? If not, would you consider telling us where those stories were going, along with Transformers: Energon?

Simon: I'd love to finish up the storylines we left dangling in Age of Wrath and Energon, but until all the dust has settled on Dreamwave (as was), we just can't go there. In the meantime, I'm going to keep the stuff that was upcoming under my hat.

CNI: Death's Head 3.0 has made his debut in the pages of Amazing Fantasy over at Marvel, will we see more of this character over at the House of Ideas?

Simon: I hope so. But there are no plans (I know of) currently to revisit the character. I'll certainly be pushing for more, more, more.

CNI: Would you ever consider writing a comic based on the Transformers: Robots in Disguise cartoon series? I'd be curious to see how you'd handle the Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus of that series.

Simon: I have to say, a RiD comic would be fairly low down in my list of TF series I'd love to write. I only have so much time, and there's so much else I want to do in terms of Transformers. But, as they say, never say never.

CNI: Anymore little secrets you wanna give away in regards to your upcoming works to keep us on the edge of our seats?

Simon: LOTS happening TF-wise, stuff that isn't comics. 2007 is going to be BIG.

CNI: What sets Stormbringer apart from any other Transformer story out there, penned by you or otherwise?

Simon: Don Figueroa. He's just blowing me away with every page. No, every panel.

CNI: Who is the Stormbringer?

Simon: It's kind of a catchall. By their very (warring) nature, all Transformers are 'stormbringers.' But specifically, it refers to Thunderwing.

CNI: Which superhero comic (Marvel, DC, or otherwise) would you love to tackle and just go nuts on?

Simon: Love to do Iron Man. But I'd want it be ongoing, and not just a mini-series or a story arc. I'd want to do three or four years on the book, minimum, really make it count.

ComicNewsI.com would like to thank Simon Furman for taking the time to talk to us. Also many thanks go out to Chris and Dan at IDW for all their continued help and support. Read more about IDW Publishing's Transformers comics and all the other great comics they produce at http://www.idwpublishing.com/.

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Post by Best First » Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:18 am

i f'n love it!

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Post by spiderfrommars » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:15 am

He really knows how to create anticipation doesn't he? :)

Oh, and Infiltration, Excalation and... Devastation. I assume the tion is compulsory? ;)

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Post by Aardvark » Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:38 am

Here's a load of points I've made at other boards, mmmmm ctrl+c/v

Just as long as Devastation has nothing to do with Devastator. I genuinely don't want to see Gestalts any time soon… maybe a spin off title.

Furman really got me "drooling" with (Despite the tad Fan Fic vibe)the “Reapers”, “Magnificence Quest” and “First Ark” stuff. The other Transformers really stood out fo me, though it screams Lost He got the balance just right, gave away enough to keep us hankering for more without giving too much away. Mind you I'm not too keen on the Hotrod spotlight

First thought; Magnus isn't in it therefore not all the characters pictured are. Which is fantastic. Hopefully this is an indication that Stormbringer will not be "Overcrowded". Too many bots spoil the broth.

Though I most certainly will be buying the BW profiles (Profile books are a guilty pleasure of mine and something that DW actually managed not to cock up, even with the augmentation of it continuity into the profiles) I do hope they won't be essential for the Beast Wars storyline and I certainly hope they won't be used as a get out of jail free card in regards to characterisation and furthermore the relationships between certain characters and whatnot.

The Reapers could be the IDW equivalent of the Mayhem Attack Squad. It would be quite nifty if they were the anti-Wreckers, develop a little rivalry between the two and whatnot

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Post by Best First » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:03 pm

'm hoping Devestation just meansthat earth starts to get ****ed up by big robots - i agree about Gestalts but they are very popular with a lot of people so there may be some pressure to see them - we shall see.

i think Magnus is in it, he just isn't a leading character from what i read.

Agree about liking profile books, but also that they shouldn't be required reading for a seperate series - we don't wantt o stat seeing key plot points in the letters page again - DW style.

Mayhem's wise - for purely nostalgic reason's i'd hope that term would continue to be used.
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Post by Aardvark » Fri Jun 23, 2006 12:17 pm

Best First wrote: Mayhem's wise - for purely nostalgic reason's i'd hope that term would continue to be used.
Ditto, especially since the Wreckers continues to be used. Plus its nods like using the aforementioned names that I wholeheartedly welcome. It doesn’t affect or take away from the story but still appeals to our more "nostalgic" tendencies.

Unlike DW which based half their stories on nods to the past.

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Post by Ozz » Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:44 pm

Aardvark wrote:The Reapers could be the IDW equivalent of the Mayhem Attack Squad.
Or the Road-jammers. :o

So it looks like I finally get to see Transformers comics turned into cohesive universe like, say, X-Men were for the most time. I would also like to see other writers getting a shot at TFs, working tight with Furman, so there wouldn't be any continuity issues.

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Post by BB Shockwave » Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:56 am

I think the 'Reapers' will be Bludgeon and his Pretender cult, but we'll see. Certainly a name that he'd think of if naming his own group... :)

These are all cool news. Even the Hot Rod mini - and I'm not a big fan of him. But Furman could make him look OK in my eyes once (if anyone remembers that UK annual story Ark Duty).

No Gestalts is not gonna work for long - the Predacons and Technobots are in Stormbringer, and do you think Don'd miss an opportunity to draw Predaking again? :) Though I hope we'll see the individual Pred chars, I always liked their personalities.

Funnily no words about Nebulos, although we know there's gonna be some action there. Maybe it'll only be in Stormbringer briefly and will set the groundwork for an upcoming Headmaster/targetmaster story? Or even mini-series... :) Wouldn't mind.

The BW MTMTE is something I'll be really looking forward. There are tons of obscure BW toys desperatly needing a personality. Though, I wouldn't mind if Simon would use the BW 2 personas for some characters, like Claw Jaw or the Cyborg Beasts.


But I think you all missed the biggest hint about what's to come...

CNI: Anymore little secrets you wanna give away in regards to your upcoming works to keep us on the edge of our seats?

Simon: LOTS happening TF-wise, stuff that isn't comics. 2007 is going to be BIG
Since as of now, Simon isn't involved in the Movie, I think (and pray) this can mean only one thing - a new TF cartoon where he'll be a writer/director/consultant... 8)
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Post by Predabot » Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:03 am

BB Shockwave wrote:Funnily no words about Nebulos, although we know there's gonna be some action there. Maybe it'll only be in Stormbringer briefly and will set the groundwork for an upcoming Headmaster/targetmaster story? Or even mini-series... :) Wouldn't mind.
I've heard or seen nothing to indicate Nebulos would be upcoming, how did you come to that conclusion? :wtf:

A 21'st century Scorponok would be effin' awesome wouldn't he? :up:

Since as of now, Simon isn't involved in the Movie, I think (and pray) this can mean only one thing - a new TF cartoon where he'll be a writer/director/consultant... 8)
Well, there have been talks before about a cartoon coming out based on the movie. :|

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Post by Aardvark » Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:27 am

BB Shockwave wrote:I think the 'Reapers' will be Bludgeon and his Pretender cult, but we'll see. Certainly a name that he'd think of if naming his own group... :)

These are all cool news. Even the Hot Rod mini - and I'm not a big fan of him. But Furman could make him look OK in my eyes once (if anyone remembers that UK annual story Ark Duty).

No Gestalts is not gonna work for long - the Predacons and Technobots are in Stormbringer, and do you think Don'd miss an opportunity to draw Predaking again? :) Though I hope we'll see the individual Pred chars, I always liked their personalities.
Oh no doubt the Reapers are Bludgeon and co but I'd hope they'd be the IDW version of the MAS (And we need Octopunch!!!!)

Now I'm fairly confident that they won't be utilised in Stormbrigner and I certainly would hope that Simon portrayed the likes of the Predacons as more of an Elite commando unit. Ditto for the likes of the Combaticons. I would rather Onslaught take the role of some sort of military commander and whatnot. With Gestalts it usually means that you have to have another Gestalt team and they just bash each other till they crumble (Or Prime bitch slaps them) Its too hard to justify why they just don't use the Gestalts all the time ala Power Rangers furthermore it often leads to oppressing otherwise compelling and interetsing characters such as the Combaticons.

If they do use the Gestalts in Stormbringer or otherwise I hope they would at least make it somewhat of a plot point (Perhaps that’s Thundertigh’s secre weapon…nah) and give them a plausible origin etc. I mean after all we have to swallow the "OMG ITZ A CAR DAT TRANSFORMS INTO A ROBOTMAPHONE" due to it being a new continuity and that we're meant to read it as if we don't know that Starscream is a conniving prick till someone tells us so. If they just do the "Combine to form ultra death machine now!" dance then that's pretty poor story telling if we're supposed to take it as a fresh new continuity :)
Predabot wrote:I've heard or seen nothing to indicate Nebulos would be upcoming, how did you come to that conclusion? :wtf:
It's mentioned in the description of Stormbringer #3 in the IDW solicitations :)
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Post by BB Shockwave » Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:35 am

I hear ya, Aardwark...if there's a fan who prefers individual characterisation to 'big dumb giants bashing each other' then it's me... :)

Simon already fleshed out not-too developed characters like Motormaster and the Protectobots, I think he should do something with the Aerialbots, Terrorcons and Seacons in the future. Of course I'm all-too happy that the Technobots are getting some well-deserved spotlight now, and the Preds... well the old Grudge Match stories are one of my fav. stories still. of course there'll be no Swoop here.
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Post by Aardvark » Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:43 am

Arg the typos in my last post...

Yeah the Seacons really haven't had their day comic-wise, Snapster the Trapster really has potential to be a "BADASS". He's the butcher of the bogs after all. I'd like to see the Terrorcons portrayed as complete and utter nutters (though the Stunticons have probably got first dibs on that role). If the Gestalts are to appear in IDW's continuity they better give a good explanation to why only some Transformers can combine. I’d like to see the Protectobots, eh…protect, if you catch my drift.

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Post by spiderfrommars » Mon Jun 26, 2006 10:22 am

Not arsed about seeing The Wreckers or Mayhems again. Dreamwave brought the Wreckers back twice and all it did was dilute their memory.

I'd quite like to see Carnivac back at his best tho.

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Post by Aardvark » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:21 am

In fairness if we went on how well DW handled the characters of Transformers I'm pretty sure the only character I'd want to see in IDW’s series is Wingthing [/OTT-DW-Bashing]

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Post by Best First » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:46 am

spiderfrommars wrote:Not arsed about seeing The Wreckers or Mayhems again. Dreamwave brought the Wreckers back twice and all it did was dilute their memory.

I'd quite like to see Carnivac back at his best tho.
aren't the two things somewhat linked?

i don't think DW handling something badly is neccessarily a good basis for domwone else having a crack. The DW incarnation of the wreckers was pathetic.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:48 am

True, but it was Furman who utilised The Wreckers in Dark Ages and it didn't quite capture the spirit of old.

The Wreckers were in some great stories in an old continuity. I'm happy for things to move on.
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aren't the two things somewhat linked?
I'd like to see Carnivac written as an honourable foe, not neccesarily as a defector. His character has potential, whilst The Wreckers could just cover old ground IMO.
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Post by Best First » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:51 am

i don't think reusing the concept will neccessarily prevent things from moving on - its not really a different notion to Target masters or Pretenders as groups, but that doesn't dicate how teh characters are used IMO.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Mon Jun 26, 2006 11:54 am

Best First wrote:i don't think reusing the concept will neccessarily prevent things from moving on - its not really a different notion to Target masters or Pretenders as groups.
I think the latter were more like gimmicks and The Wreckers stood for more than that.

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Post by Best First » Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:05 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:
Best First wrote:i don't think reusing the concept will neccessarily prevent things from moving on - its not really a different notion to Target masters or Pretenders as groups.
I think the latter were more like gimmicks and The Wreckers stood for more than that.
gimmicks in terms of the toys but in the comic sesne its just groupings of characters, maybe the Dinobots would have been a better example - its how they nteract as characters that really works for me, not the fact they all happen to turn into dino's.

Anyway, if this incarnation of the Wreckers don't do some serious bottom spanking i will be most upset. I'd also liek to see Springer as a better leader, he was alwaysa weak shadow of Impy in marvel UK.
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Post by Aardvark » Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:17 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:True, but it was Furman who utilised The Wreckers in Dark Ages and it didn't quite capture the spirit of old.

The Wreckers were in some great stories in an old continuity. I'm happy for things to move on.
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aren't the two things somewhat linked?
I'd like to see Carnivac written as an honourable foe, not necessarily as a defector. His character has potential, whilst The Wreckers could just cover old ground IMO.
I'd like to see Carnivac written as an honourable foe, not necessarily as a defector. His character has potential, whilst The Wreckers could just cover old ground IMO.[/quote]
I don't see how using the Wreckers is any different than having the Throttlebots or Dinobots sticking to their respective units. The Wreckers and MAS give Simon a chance to showcase and furthermore give some characterisation to more obscure/under-utilised characters (I mean aside from the Triplechargers and Twintwist in the initial Wrecker stories they didn't receive much characterisation, they were more of an ideal rather than a bunch of collectively interesting characters) I'd love to see Whirl and Roadbuster actually be portrayed as the characters that I've built them up to be in my mind. Better the Wreckers than a tired bugbear like the Dinobots.

I'd consider portraying Carnivac as honourable as much more of a rehash than utilising the Wreckers and or the MAS. I mean look at his Tech Specs;

"A growling, howling, mad dog destroyer. Commits abominable acts with unrelenting glee. Always smiling, even in battle. Outer shell has built-in hydrolic lifters that enable him to jump over 50 feet in any direction. High-intensity laser beams in eyes incinerate targets in seconds. In robot Mode, armed with anti-thermal cannon with infrared scope that freezes targets on impact."

The Carnivac notion of Carnivac being honourable is completely down to Furman's previous stories and portrayal of the Pretender Beast. Any character has the potential to be portrayed such in this manor. Simon could portray Starscream as an honourable warrior and whatnot, heck he could portray Wingthing in this fashion. :)

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Post by BB Shockwave » Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:34 pm

Yeah, but it's what Simon made with them that made guys like Carnivac, Bludgeon or Thunderwing more then obscure Pretenders. I mean, there's Roadblock, a much better toy then Bludgeon... yet old skullface fetches a price of 70$ loose complete at least on the market.

It was Simon who made these guys sought-after as toys and characters... And I'm all-for him re-using them, but he cannot go 180 degrees and turning them into something totally different. The Bludgeon we saw in Dark Ages was different, but it was a younger, less experienced version. Same way, now we'll see Thunderwing's origin from a well-meaning scientist into, well my guess, a power-mad weapon of mass destruction.

I'd love to see Carnivac re-used (well, look at my avatar and guess who my fav. character is... :) ) but the first time I got really pissed off at DW was when I read his entry in MTMTE. After all those stories, you cannot simply turn a character into something totally different - there has to be at least traces left from his previous incarnations.

Carny appeared for a few panels, and even had one line in TWW 3, and frankly I even liked that appearance. It was brief but even that one line was in character for him.

OK so anyway, I bet Furman won't turn him into a renegade Con again, since that would be a reharsh, and I doubt we'll see him as a honorable warrior either, since that's what we'd expect... heck, maybe he'll be a Con double agent amongst the bots for all I know. Furman has lots of suprises...
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Post by spiderfrommars » Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:07 am

Aardvark wrote:
The Carnivac notion of Carnivac being honourable is completely down to Furman's previous stories and portrayal of the Pretender Beast.
I never suggested otherwise.

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