IDW Publishing summer event: Stormbringer! UPDATED

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 8:07 am

Looks like Thunderwing to me.

Which is awesome.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:03 am

While that picture is bloody cool, I'm surprised they've decided on an all out space epic from issue 7. I thought it would be a gradual thing, something to be 'earned'. I was hoping for artistic consistency as well, keeping Su on board. Oh well.

Though I'm sure it will be a lot of fun.

Post by **Denyer** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:33 pm

It's a four-issue mini running alongside the main title. A bit like 'Headmasters'.

http://forums.idwpublishing.com/cgi-bin ... 1142;st=10

Just to clarify... Stormbringer (while self-contained, in and of itself) works very much alongside Infiltration/Escalation. There's the odd direct link (like... in Infiltration #3, when Ironhide sends his message, it's received in Stormbringer #1), the odd mirror scene (Infiltration #4's final page jaw-dropper) and events in Stormbringer have direct and indirection repercussions in Escalation (and onwards). As for Stormbringer itself, those of you who (on other threads) have expressed a desire to see TFs on other planets, and other (later) phases of the whole Infiltration process, will not be disappointed!

--Simon

I'm rather excited.

Whether TF #7 will be following directly in July/August, dunno yet. There were suggestions of 16 main continuity issues for this year, which would suggest it'll run parallel timewise as well as storywise.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 1:53 pm

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. In that case, spiffing! I was getting Escalation/Stormbringer mixed up. So we'll actually continue to get treated to a Simon/Don comic alongside the main Ongoing like we are now which is nice.

edit - I just wanna add I'm rather excited too!

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:09 pm

Rebis wrote:
Predabot wrote:Whoa... Don is like... the Don.

Um... is that Scourge, or Cyclonus?
If it has to be an existing TF, it's more like Thunderwing than anything else.

But I sincerely doubt it's anything other than a new character. A bringer of storms, one might say.

yup... looks a lot like thunderwing to me too, only now he's actually got wings (i wonder if they thunder)...

of course, if it is just a made up bot then i have a bad feeling about this.... i have an alarm bell going off in my head and it's called "TWWv2:TDA"...

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:41 pm

It's Thunderwing.

http://forums.idwpublishing.com/cgi-bin ... =21;t=1141

Top pic here pretty much confirms it

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:45 pm

You're all wrong. It's Transmetal Airazor. Blatantly.

Complete with pontoon mode.

Post by **Denyer** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 2:55 pm

Legion wrote:have an alarm bell going off in my head and it's called "TWWv2:TDA"...

Small fragmented war || TFs with wider scope and purpose in the universe

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:25 pm

I am incredibly excited about how things are going right now.

Thunderwing once again as an uber badass. A four issue series as opposed to the unnecessaryly prolonged six-issue format. No humans!

I'm almost excited now as I was when DW starting publishing. Not quite as excited as I was in my Marvel days, but back then, I had less worries and stresses in my life and my imagination was more dynamic.

Isn't it interesting how in one's life, experience grows yet one's imagination ebbs.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 3:36 pm

Denyer wrote:
Legion wrote:have an alarm bell going off in my head and it's called "TWWv2:TDA"...
Small fragmented war || TFs with wider scope and purpose in the universe

well, was actually refering to the Forsaken or whatever he was called and him being a refernce to the "dark/lost" page from Cybertron's history...

cause it could just be a coincidence...

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:25 pm

Well, that front-pic certainly does look like Thunderwing, but why does he look like if his pretender-shell, yet with wings? If it was DW I'd say this would be his War Within-form, but that doesn't explain the pretender-shell anyway.

So I guess since this is IDW, he's the latest of their redesigns, and they apparently took features from his pretender-shell and applied them to his old cybertronian mode.

( altho I suppose his alt-mode always was cybertronian in the Marvel comic.)

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 4:32 pm

Predabot wrote:Well, that front-pic certainly does look like Thunderwing, but why does he look like if his pretender-shell, yet with wings?

... why the hell shouldn't he look like his Pretender self? You're working off the seemingly baseless assumption that he isn't actually a Pretender. Give me a reason why he won't be one already by the time we meet him?

If it was DW

Which it isn't.

I'd say this would be his War Within-form

Which it isn't, because it isn't War Within.

So I guess since this is IDW

You guess it's IDW? You guess it's IDW???

and they apparently took features from his pretender-shell and applied them to his old cybertronian mode. ( altho I suppose his alt-mode always was cybertronian in the Marvel comic.)

You do realise that Thunderwing's Pretender shell was his Cybertronian mode, right? You do realise that we've never met him pre-Pretender? You do realise how much of an idiot you're coming across as?

Post by **Best First** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:02 pm

Yaya wrote:
Thunderwing once again as an uber badass. A four issue series as opposed to the unnecessaryly prolonged six-issue format.

actually that seems like a reason to be excited in itself.

this looks glove.

bring it.

Post by **Denyer** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:07 pm

Brendocon wrote:You do realise that Thunderwing's Pretender shell was his Cybertronian mode, right?

In previous continuity, (experimental) pretender shells are around in Cybertron's past -- Scorponok wasn't being entirely honest when he claimed to have created the process. Thunderwing and Megadeath both had them in The Magnificent Six.

That said, there's no reason that isn't Thunderwing's robot mode and he's not actually a pretender -- the TFs on earth will look more angular as they're mimicking blocky human tech, whilst rounded designs may be in vogue in other places where there's no need for disguise.

Another thumbs up for the four-issue format.

Which isn't to say I'm not enjoying the six-issue Infiltration arc, simply that it's a different type of story with more scene-setting to do.

Post by **Best First** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 5:57 pm

Denyer wrote: Thunderwing and Megadeath both had them in The Magnificent Six.

i don't recall any statement to the effect that Megadeath had a pretender shell. he was just crap looking i think.

lame story anyway IMO.

also given that Thunerwing just looks like a TF anyway, what exactly is he pretending to be?

"aha! you thought i was a big Transformer that turned into a jet, whereas i am in fact... a small transformer that turns into a jet! Feel my tiny wrath!"

Post by **Denyer** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:07 pm

Best First wrote:i don't recall any statement to the effect that Megadeath had a pretender shell. he was just crap looking i think.

Okay, he looking bugger all like a Transformer anyway -- given that Thunderwing's his lieutenant and Megadeath is supposedly a brilliant if insane scientist, this'd be the most logical explanation for Thunderwing's mega-pretender status at this point.

I'd say it's one of the best UK text stories, personally. You may also like this:

http://tfarchive.com/creative/showentry.php?s=403

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 6:17 pm

Well it's the same as with Bludgeon - it's not much sense pretending you are a giant undead samurai. The shell isnot for disguise, it's for added power and protection, much like an exo-suit, and it also doubles as a remote-controlled 'double' fighter. Makes more sense on a war-torn Cybertron where disguise is not much of an issue. Especially if you are a teeny robot. I mean, take Roadblock - he's supposed to be a ground forces commander, yet he's about as tall as Bumblebee... I take he got to the position AFTER he got his extra shells.

I always tried this 'cybertronian battle shell theory' to explain with the insipid shell types some of the TFs got. I mean, a giant walrus? A wrestler?...

Back on topic... I seem to recall Simon mentioning in an old DW interview he wanted to do Thunderwing again some time, and I'm glad we get him again, it has been a looong while (not counting his cameo in Armada). Btw, I always thought Simon created Armada Megs pretty much in Thunderwing's image, he's a Con who craves absolute power and sacrifices everything and everyone to get it.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 7:29 pm

i like the image of blaster falling into the smelting pool...

Post by **Best First** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 10:22 pm

Denyer wrote:
Best First wrote:i don't recall any statement to the effect that Megadeath had a pretender shell. he was just crap looking i think.
Okay, he looking bugger all like a Transformer anyway -- given that Thunderwing's his lieutenant and Megadeath is supposedly a brilliant if insane scientist, this'd be the most logical explanation for Thunderwing's mega-pretender status at this point.

not really, given that;

a) the whole concept of Pretenders doesn't really work given their forms

and

b) the way his form works (that glowing bullsh*t in his chest) doesn't actually provide space for a robot withing

curious as to what redeeming features you see in a rather tawdry story in my eyes.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:03 pm

Best First wrote:Feel my tiny wrath!

Siggable.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:10 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:i like the image of blaster falling into the smelting pool...

Indeed.

Shockers also has a spiffy look to him, even if the image is rather Blackpool beach.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Mar 15, 2006 11:14 pm

Rebis wrote:Shockers also has a spiffy look to him, even if the image is rather Blackpool beach.

Notsomuch the Pepsi Big One as the Purple Big One.

Eh?

Eh?

Oh.

Post by **Denyer** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 6:17 am

re: publishing schedule

It does look like The Transformers will carry on after Stormbringer's published.

http://forums.idwpublishing.com/cgi-bin ... 091;st=110
http://tfarchive.com/community/showthre ... post484838

Makes sense from the POV of not saturating with "core universe" books.

That'd put us roughly in Nov for #7 and the start of a new Earth story, by my guess.

divebomb · Post by **divebomb** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 10:56 am

Is everyone forgetting that Thunderwing was a mega (i think it was called that) Pretender, which not only the inner TF transforms, but the outer shell transforms as well, Therefore he looks very much like the don pic, obviously with the dramatised look of overstatement.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:08 am

look how small his robot mode is...

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:17 am

Man.. he is awesome looking tho.

He'd make an incredible Titanium transformer!

Post by **Denyer** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 11:27 am

divebomb wrote:Is everyone forgetting that Thunderwing was a mega (i think it was called that) Pretender

Have a read of the conversation above.

There are redesigns in IDW continuity. Pretender shells as per past continuities may not exist.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:38 pm

Denyer wrote:
It does look like The Transformers will carry on after Stormbringer's published.

Cheers for the update. The future looks interesting.

divebomb · Post by **divebomb** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:46 pm

Denyer wrote:
divebomb wrote:Is everyone forgetting that Thunderwing was a mega (i think it was called that) Pretender
Have a read of the conversation above.

There are redesigns in IDW continuity. Pretender shells as per past continuities may not exist.

Yeah I did read that, but if they did exist, the drawing shows pretty much what the pretender shell looks like, also if they introduce Bludgeon how will they explain that one??

Post by **Best First** » Thu Mar 16, 2006 1:58 pm

he's anorexic