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Couple of guys from Allspark got to talk with Chris Ryall at Baltimore Comic Convention.
I think they are trying to do too much straight away, not to mention that some of that stuff doesn't seem necessary.
http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.ph ... opic=82419
I think they are trying to do too much straight away, not to mention that some of that stuff doesn't seem necessary.
http://www.allspark.com/forums/index.ph ... opic=82419
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Well, the MickDonough team had some good ideas. I'm sure something productive might come of it. Like an issue of the Generations book. (I think that's the working-name on the What..if book, right?)
On another note: Cheetimus that posted this, seems like bit of a tool now don't he? Mind you, this is coming from an experienced, and of others like him, highly tolerant, troll and even I find him somewhat obnoxius at times, in that thread.
Yay!Budiansky
Good, good. Yes, yes. See nothing wrong with this. Taking what is good with the old-school art and the modern wave one, and make an almost optimised style.Cheetimus.. wrote:- For those that expressed concerns with the new TF art do not fear. All the bitching and whining was heard and we were told that the style between issue #0 and #1 will be very different. Same artist, just more technical detail.
- That doesn't mean DW style over-detailing. They don't want to repeat any of the DW mistakes.
On another note: Cheetimus that posted this, seems like bit of a tool now don't he? Mind you, this is coming from an experienced, and of others like him, highly tolerant, troll and even I find him somewhat obnoxius at times, in that thread.
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Best not to throw stones in glass houses though eh?Predabot wrote: On another note: Cheetimus that posted this, seems like bit of a tool now don't he? Mind you, this is coming from an experienced, and of others like him, highly tolerant, troll and even I find him somewhat obnoxius at times, in that thread.
If you want to slag him off go over there and do it to his virtual face, the news forum is not the place for it.
On topic i'm a bit concerned that IDW are already responding to a niche selection of comments about the art, i'd be more encouraged to see a bit more convicntion, especially in the face of criticism from people who don't seem to understand what the basic fundamentals of a good comic are. The ain't it cool review remians encouraging as IDW need a wider comic audience if this is goingt to work. Stick to your guns boys.
I agree the What If book would be the ideal wat to allow Mick and Pattercake to round off their story.
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I doubt very much that was exactly what Chris said.- For those that expressed concerns with the new TF art do not fear. All the bitching and whining was heard and we were told that the style between issue #0 and #1 will be very different. Same artist, just more technical detail.
There is no style change from #0 to #1. It just so happen that there are a lot more going on in #1 than #0. I am almost certain that's the "different" that Chris mentioned.
I for one certainly sticking to my gun.
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I took the news with a pinch of salt even before Su's post.
As you seem to read this board, could you confirm who are involved in doing the #0? Pencils, inks, colours? Or is it just you? Will it be the same for the actual mini-series?
That's good to hear.E.J.Su wrote:I doubt very much that was exactly what Chris said.- For those that expressed concerns with the new TF art do not fear. All the bitching and whining was heard and we were told that the style between issue #0 and #1 will be very different. Same artist, just more technical detail.
There is no style change from #0 to #1. It just so happen that there are a lot more going on in #1 than #0. I am almost certain that's the "different" that Chris mentioned.
I for one certainly sticking to my gun.
As you seem to read this board, could you confirm who are involved in doing the #0? Pencils, inks, colours? Or is it just you? Will it be the same for the actual mini-series?
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I will be working on pencil and inking, and John Rauch, who has done a lot of uncredited work for Marvel will be coloring. Unless something happen at the meantime, it should be the same art team up to #6.
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Good for you mateE.J.Su wrote:I doubt very much that was exactly what Chris said.- For those that expressed concerns with the new TF art do not fear. All the bitching and whining was heard and we were told that the style between issue #0 and #1 will be very different. Same artist, just more technical detail.
There is no style change from #0 to #1. It just so happen that there are a lot more going on in #1 than #0. I am almost certain that's the "different" that Chris mentioned.
I for one certainly sticking to my gun.
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Chris Ryall clarified some most of these rumours. It doesn't look so scary now.
Chris Ryall clarified some most of these rumours. It doesn't look so scary now.
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Here's the whole thing so people can discuss here:
Gotta be honest, i love this bit:
"But I think after you read what we're doing, you'll be a lot less interested in this."
heh heh
As an aside i continue to be impressed with the IDW approach, you would never see anything like this on the DW board.Ryall wrote:Let's clarify some things...
I really enjoyed talking to people at the con this weekend, especially the folks who posted this. But some things either got misquoted or somehow misunderstood. So if you're discussing these same things on the other boards that ran the comments, I'd very much appreciate you pointing people here or clarifying things like I'm about to do:
>*I ran into a couple of Allsparkers at the Baltimore COmic-Con today. They came by the booth I was helping with and mentioned that they were headed over to the IDW booth to talk TFs with 'em. I tagged along and we got quite a bit from the Editor-in-Chief, Chris Ryall. Here's somes points we hit upon, but forgive me if any of this is old news:
-They are in talks with McDonough and Patyck. Not only that but they're looking to talk to many old school TF writers, not just Furman. Budiansky was brought up.
Well, we've talked TO them, but we're not in talks WITH, meaning there's not an open, active project waiting for a writer. We're approaching this entire line cautiously, doing one monthly Transformers comic. Simon and EJ are our guys for that. Simon is working on another project for us as well. Simon's driving the entire relaunch. So while I've had conversations with folks like McD and Patyk (and Herb Trimpe and others), thus far, they're just that. I'm very happy with what we're doing, and the more I see from Simon and EJ, the more happy I get.
>Dreamwave TF artists are not being ignored. They want as much TF talent on this as possible and they're being instructed to go with their own style. They want as many different takes on this as possible.
Well, not true. We want EJ's take on this. EJ is setting the pace for everything that follows on the Transformers comic. I absolutely love his stuff, and think you all will, too. We've got some covers in the works from folks like Guido and Raiz, but we're not offering different takes on the book--we're offering different covers. The book is and will remain EJ's take.
>Don has already finished the first issue of Beast Wars.
Wait, what? Hmm...
>They do indeed want to finish the DW continuity but they simply can't until everything is out of the courts. For the time being those stories are untouchable.
Well, I want to finish the stories for the fans of those books, yes, because I hate when books got cancelled early on a book I like. But still, our main focus is our direction. We'd simply look to end these books in a satisfactory fashion, if we're ever able. But I think after you read what we're doing, you'll be a lot less interested in this.
>Except the trades already published! They want to keep those on teh racks so they will be reprinting them!
The out-of-print DW trades, yes, true. We're not saying ours is the only TF book you should buy (just that it's the best one). I'd like to keep the older material easily accessible for fans, too. Which is why we're also going to... do some other stuff I ain't ready to talk about yet.
>For those that expressed concerns with the new TF art do not fear. All the bitching and whining was heard and we were told that the style between issue #0 and #1 will be very different. Same artist, just more technical detail.
This is the most dismaying point. It sounds like we're not happy with EJ's art, and that couldn't be further from the truth. What I said at the show was that if you liked what EJ was doing in issue #0, and a lot of people who saw the preview pages did, then you'd like issue #1 even more, because EJ's pages are even more impressive. But to say we've listened to any fan complaints and had EJ change what he's doing, oh, ####, no. There's not a TF house style to follow. If EJ's pages in issue #1 look better than issue #0 to me, that's because he's getting even more comfortable with the book and the characters. He's doing all the work here, constantly suggesting changes and updates and nice little touches that didn't occur to Simon and I. If you read all this and can add any one thing to this post at the other boards, it's that I freakin' love what EJ is doing. I don't have any problem saying that his stuff is the best Transformers I've personally ever seen. Different people might respond differently. But his style's not changing from issue 0 to issue 1. It's just getting stronger.
- Size shifting is here to stay.
Well, I was cagey about this one, actually. Never committed one way or the other.
>They're looking to do a retelling of the movie from top to bottom. It sounds like it'll be in it's own continuity.
This was all just talk, really. I think I also said we'd do a 30 Days of Transformers crossover book, but, you know, I lied.
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Gotta be honest, i love this bit:
"But I think after you read what we're doing, you'll be a lot less interested in this."
heh heh
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He's great That's very encouraging. The best thing about the bloke is he doesn't speak in that awful management hype way that Pat Lee did, and furthermore he doesn't take **** from people. He seems to be essentially telling all the people who want the old Pat Lee style of comic book back to stop whining and give the new stuff a chance at least. Impressive
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Agreed!spiderfrommars wrote:Thank goodness.Ryall wrote:There's not a TF house style to follow.
Ryall really is on the ball.
In all seriousness, I just wanna say that we're not going to over-extend ourselves and do too many projects at once. And some of the things I talked about at the Baltimore show are still just that, talk. So unless you hear it from me, don't take everything as fact.
And I'd like to reiterate again that I absolutely love the work EJ's doing on this book and would never ask him to change.
The BotCon issues went on sale today at that show, and the regular 0 issues will be in stores on Oct. 19th. The anticipation to see what you all think is KILLING me. And about that--we're gonna be running letters pages in our TF books, too, so after you read it, if you have any thoughts, post 'em at our board for potential inclusion in the comic, too.
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Yay. Cheers for the date.Ryall wrote:the regular 0 issues will be in stores on Oct. 19th.
I like waiting for things when you know the date. You can get all excited and giddy and skip around and ask people to "guess what happens on the 19th of October?" and when they don't know and you tell them they laugh and smile because you're clearly ants-in-the-pants excited about it and you can do a little dance.
Wait. I think I might have given out a little too much information there....
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Except i know exactly what you mean.KingMob wrote:Yay. Cheers for the date.Ryall wrote:the regular 0 issues will be in stores on Oct. 19th.
I like waiting for things when you know the date. You can get all excited and giddy and skip around and ask people to "guess what happens on the 19th of October?" and when they don't know and you tell them they laugh and smile because you're clearly ants-in-the-pants excited about it and you can do a little dance.
Wait. I think I might have given out a little too much information there....
Although i have Serenity running interference on the excitement front.
Thanks for popping in R, remain encouraged.