Pacific Rim
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There's a new movie I'm looking forward to more than any other. It's called Pacific Rim.
Directed by Guillermo Del Toro, after he was rejected after vying for the new Godzilla movie. In his words, it's the “the finest ******* monsters ever committed to screen” and the film involves battles between human-manned robots and monsters.
Synopsis: When legions of monstrous creatures, known as Kaiju, started rising from the sea, a war began that would take millions of lives and consume humanity’s resources for years on end. To combat the giant Kaiju, a special type of weapon was devised: massive robots, called Jaegers, which are controlled simultaneously by two pilots whose minds are locked in a neural bridge. But even the Jaegers are proving nearly defenseless in the face of the relentless Kaiju. On the verge of defeat, the forces defending mankind have no choice but to turn to two unlikely heroes—a washed up former pilot (Charlie Hunnam) and an untested trainee (Rinko Kikuchi)—who are teamed to drive a legendary but seemingly obsolete Jaeger from the past. Together, they stand as mankind’s last hope against the mounting apocalypse.
Don't know if we have any Kaiju fans here, but that's right up my alley. With them fighting giant robots!
Directed by Guillermo Del Toro, after he was rejected after vying for the new Godzilla movie. In his words, it's the “the finest ******* monsters ever committed to screen” and the film involves battles between human-manned robots and monsters.
Synopsis: When legions of monstrous creatures, known as Kaiju, started rising from the sea, a war began that would take millions of lives and consume humanity’s resources for years on end. To combat the giant Kaiju, a special type of weapon was devised: massive robots, called Jaegers, which are controlled simultaneously by two pilots whose minds are locked in a neural bridge. But even the Jaegers are proving nearly defenseless in the face of the relentless Kaiju. On the verge of defeat, the forces defending mankind have no choice but to turn to two unlikely heroes—a washed up former pilot (Charlie Hunnam) and an untested trainee (Rinko Kikuchi)—who are teamed to drive a legendary but seemingly obsolete Jaeger from the past. Together, they stand as mankind’s last hope against the mounting apocalypse.
Don't know if we have any Kaiju fans here, but that's right up my alley. With them fighting giant robots!
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I will say this. Unless Del Toro presents things differently, it runs the risk of being stale.
Due to our already having seen three Transformers movies featuring giant robots, and other movies featuring titanic creatures like Wrath of the Titans or Cloverfield, it's going to come down to the presentation for this movie to really impress me.
Instead of close angle shaky shots, Del Toro needs to give us steady, wide-angle distance shots of these kaiju. That's rarely done because of running the risk of the special effects looking cheap. If it's close-up, in your face action, it's going to be old hat and fans will be bored by it. At least I will be.
The idea is freakin fantastic and it's going to be a huge money-maker regardless. But if it's going to impress me, it's going to have to be presented in a different style than what the likes of Bay have given us.
Due to our already having seen three Transformers movies featuring giant robots, and other movies featuring titanic creatures like Wrath of the Titans or Cloverfield, it's going to come down to the presentation for this movie to really impress me.
Instead of close angle shaky shots, Del Toro needs to give us steady, wide-angle distance shots of these kaiju. That's rarely done because of running the risk of the special effects looking cheap. If it's close-up, in your face action, it's going to be old hat and fans will be bored by it. At least I will be.
The idea is freakin fantastic and it's going to be a huge money-maker regardless. But if it's going to impress me, it's going to have to be presented in a different style than what the likes of Bay have given us.
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Well I said it'd all come down to presentation for me and it did. Count me amongst those who, despite all the positive fan reviews, was somewhat disappointed.
I think when you're given a chance with a premise as cool as this one, you have to take advantage. Why, oh why, Guillermo, do you have to have every freakin scene in the dark and in the rain, or underwater? Would it be too much to ask to just have some nice bright day time shots from afar, where things are clear? I actually enjoyed the visuals of downtown Hong Kong and the facility where the kept the jagears more than some of the actual fight scenes.
Granted, there were some phenomenal scenes scattered here and there throughout the movie, but by the end I was quite tired. The acting was better than I had anticipated, as was the actual premise. But in the end, you go to this kind of movie for the visuals, and they were just okay. The longer the fight scenes went, the more akin to Bayformers it became. Superior to Bayformers in the end, but could have been better.
And that was my greatest fear. Getting a movie presented like Bayformers vs. monsters, where giant metal scrap heaps are very indistinctly pounding on giant indistinct globs of monster flesh.
Give it 3 out of 5 stars. Or let's say, a B-. Worth seeing, but could have been better.
Thought Man of Steel or this might be the movie of the year for me. Nope. By the looks of it, that movie is Elysium. Daaaaaamnnnn, that looks good!
I think when you're given a chance with a premise as cool as this one, you have to take advantage. Why, oh why, Guillermo, do you have to have every freakin scene in the dark and in the rain, or underwater? Would it be too much to ask to just have some nice bright day time shots from afar, where things are clear? I actually enjoyed the visuals of downtown Hong Kong and the facility where the kept the jagears more than some of the actual fight scenes.
Granted, there were some phenomenal scenes scattered here and there throughout the movie, but by the end I was quite tired. The acting was better than I had anticipated, as was the actual premise. But in the end, you go to this kind of movie for the visuals, and they were just okay. The longer the fight scenes went, the more akin to Bayformers it became. Superior to Bayformers in the end, but could have been better.
And that was my greatest fear. Getting a movie presented like Bayformers vs. monsters, where giant metal scrap heaps are very indistinctly pounding on giant indistinct globs of monster flesh.
Give it 3 out of 5 stars. Or let's say, a B-. Worth seeing, but could have been better.
Thought Man of Steel or this might be the movie of the year for me. Nope. By the looks of it, that movie is Elysium. Daaaaaamnnnn, that looks good!
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Every time you say Bayformers, you just dig sound a bigger muppet*. Especially as the robots in this are pretty much solid pieces and there's nothing even approaching the fast-cut shaky cam of the Paramount TF films.
* and I'm an expert on sounding a muppet.
ANYWAY.
Loved it loved it loved it. It's not high art, but it is EXACTLY what I wanted and expected from the film.
Oh yeah, I forgot, we've got a sword.
* and I'm an expert on sounding a muppet.
ANYWAY.
Loved it loved it loved it. It's not high art, but it is EXACTLY what I wanted and expected from the film.
Oh yeah, I forgot, we've got a sword.
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I thought this was fantastic. It rose above its obvious flaws and was thoroughly entertaining.
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It was a lot of fun. A little derivative of several things(Evangelion, Half-Life, maybe a little Gundam, etc;...), but I like those things so it's all good. The acting was pretty dry overall, so naturally Charlie Day and Ron Perlman stole the show. There were certainly some gaps in logic(mainly the swords), but nothing too distracting. I give it a solid 7/10.
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No-one's talking about the over at the Archive and I have no idea why (apart from Sades). This film looks the absolute bees knees, and the only reason I'm not going to see it is because I want a like-minded giant robot drooling fetishist to see it with me. I managed it with the 2007 Transformers flick (three times), but now people seem to treat giant robots on the big screen like its old hat... "seen it all before man..." the bastards!
It's the Jurassic Park effect, by the time of the third film drop-dead Dinosaur effects were ten-a-penny and starting to turn up on terrestrial TV (Walking with Dinosaurs).
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I thought the action sequences were great, personally, despite the dark and rain. Shame that, for all del Toro's stated intentions, it descends into being a mighty whitey Big Hero movie, but I loved the Jaegers. I supposed I was disappointed though - firstly in the kaiju, which all seemed very similar and had little character, and secondly that one robot - Gipsy Danger - does 95% of the fighting throughout the movie. I really want to see more of those things in action for longer.
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Visually it was very, very impressive. No issue with the fight scenes either. However I did feel a real sense of wasted potential with elements of the movie. Yes the concept is simply awesome. But the story execution was a tired plot chock-a-block with forgettable characters (Ron Perlman and Charlie Day were good fun though).
For example, I was really disappointed that Crimson Typhoon, Tango Coyote and Cherno Alpha all barely figured (in fact weren't they essentially redshirts / jobbers?) - especially considering aesthetically they had the most interesting designs (Typhoon formation!!) AND that they all heavily featured in the promotion material!
I also felt the whole 'drift' concept could've been pushed much, much harder. Imagine how absolutely horrific it must've been to experience your own brothers death rows as if they were your own? That would leave some powerful scars. Yet the film glosses over the issue with surprising ease. It does make me wonder whether the money-people behind the film were pressuring Del Toro into making it formulaic out of fear of alienating the average movie goer - especially considering the monsters vs. robots angle has a lot of niche appeal.
Overall, I'd give it a solid 7/10. It's probably a 6/10 movie, but I want to like it because it's my kinda thing, so I've upped it a notch. Bring on a sequel that features more confidence in it's own story and characters.
For example, I was really disappointed that Crimson Typhoon, Tango Coyote and Cherno Alpha all barely figured (in fact weren't they essentially redshirts / jobbers?) - especially considering aesthetically they had the most interesting designs (Typhoon formation!!) AND that they all heavily featured in the promotion material!
I also felt the whole 'drift' concept could've been pushed much, much harder. Imagine how absolutely horrific it must've been to experience your own brothers death rows as if they were your own? That would leave some powerful scars. Yet the film glosses over the issue with surprising ease. It does make me wonder whether the money-people behind the film were pressuring Del Toro into making it formulaic out of fear of alienating the average movie goer - especially considering the monsters vs. robots angle has a lot of niche appeal.
Overall, I'd give it a solid 7/10. It's probably a 6/10 movie, but I want to like it because it's my kinda thing, so I've upped it a notch. Bring on a sequel that features more confidence in it's own story and characters.
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Yeah, I remember five Jaegers on posters, and there were four in the movie, unless Tango Coyote is the one from Mako's flashback.Mr_Tigg wrote:For example, I was really disappointed that Crimson Typhoon, Tango Coyote and Cherno Alpha all barely figured (in fact weren't they essentially redshirts / jobbers?) - especially considering aesthetically they had the most interesting designs (Typhoon formation!!) AND that they all heavily featured in the promotion material!
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Pretty sure that's the one! They didn't specifically identify it in the movie though.Yeah, I remember five Jaegers on posters, and there were four in the movie, unless Tango Coyote is the one from Mako's flashback.
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Saw it last night with my wife and we both loved it.
Pros:
Jaeger designs are absolutely phenomenal. Each Jaeger reflects the country of origin, and has its own personality. Loved the sheer Russian bluntness of Cherno Alpha, but Striker Eureka and Gipsy Danger just stole the show for me. A shame Coyote Tango appeared for all of 30 seconds though.
Any scene involving the sword(s).
Soundtrack is amazing.
The story is actually deeper than I expected. It's a shame they didn't play this up in the trailer. No it's not War and Peace, but the mix of X-Com, Evangelion, and apocalypse movies really melded well together.
Ron Perlman. Oh man. He's basically become kinda like Christopher Walken or Jeff Bridges. It doesn't matter what movie it is, he always plays the same person, Ron Perlman.
Charlie Day was also a neat surprise and it was cool to see him branch out.
Idris Elba. If the clock is 1 minute to midnight, and we need someone to rally humanity, he's the one.
Mako Mori may as well be Rei Ayanami and that's fine with me. Blue hair, Japanese woman with a complex relationship with her new "Dad." That had to be a nod to Evangelion, and if it wasn't, well, I'm taking it as one.
Setting and visuals. Very few people do "setting the stage" as well as Guillermo Del Toro. He has a masterful ability to translate what is in his head onto the big screen. Pan's Labyrinth, Hellboy, he gets it done.
Cons:
Poor box office revenues. I hope the global market makes up for the anemic sales here in the States. I doubt we will see a sequel, but for Hollywood to bankroll this movie deserves support, considering the strong urge to just make crappy movies with Adam Sandler or Ryan Reynolds. (Nothing against RR but man, he does not have good luck in choosing movies to be a part of.)
Needs more Coyote Tango.
Pros:
Jaeger designs are absolutely phenomenal. Each Jaeger reflects the country of origin, and has its own personality. Loved the sheer Russian bluntness of Cherno Alpha, but Striker Eureka and Gipsy Danger just stole the show for me. A shame Coyote Tango appeared for all of 30 seconds though.
Any scene involving the sword(s).
Soundtrack is amazing.
The story is actually deeper than I expected. It's a shame they didn't play this up in the trailer. No it's not War and Peace, but the mix of X-Com, Evangelion, and apocalypse movies really melded well together.
Ron Perlman. Oh man. He's basically become kinda like Christopher Walken or Jeff Bridges. It doesn't matter what movie it is, he always plays the same person, Ron Perlman.
Charlie Day was also a neat surprise and it was cool to see him branch out.
Idris Elba. If the clock is 1 minute to midnight, and we need someone to rally humanity, he's the one.
Mako Mori may as well be Rei Ayanami and that's fine with me. Blue hair, Japanese woman with a complex relationship with her new "Dad." That had to be a nod to Evangelion, and if it wasn't, well, I'm taking it as one.
Setting and visuals. Very few people do "setting the stage" as well as Guillermo Del Toro. He has a masterful ability to translate what is in his head onto the big screen. Pan's Labyrinth, Hellboy, he gets it done.
Cons:
Poor box office revenues. I hope the global market makes up for the anemic sales here in the States. I doubt we will see a sequel, but for Hollywood to bankroll this movie deserves support, considering the strong urge to just make crappy movies with Adam Sandler or Ryan Reynolds. (Nothing against RR but man, he does not have good luck in choosing movies to be a part of.)
Needs more Coyote Tango.
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Oh man I forgot the score - yup, yup soundtrack was brilliant too. It's the same guy behind the Game of Thrones music.
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The characters were paper-thin. But I stopped caring about 1/3 of the way into the film.
I called the other mechs biting it when were were sitting there watching, and it made me sad. I would have been all for mega mechy goodness throughout the whole film. Like Fast And Furious, but with Jaegers.
I <3 Kaiju. I think I will always <3 Kaiju. All the Kaiju. All the time. Kaiju Kaiju Kaiju.
Sequel's been announced already, SQUEEEEE
I called the other mechs biting it when were were sitting there watching, and it made me sad. I would have been all for mega mechy goodness throughout the whole film. Like Fast And Furious, but with Jaegers.
I <3 Kaiju. I think I will always <3 Kaiju. All the Kaiju. All the time. Kaiju Kaiju Kaiju.
Sequel's been announced already, SQUEEEEE
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Apparently the movie is going gangbusters overseas so that bodes well for a sequel.
I want a model of Gipsy Danger and Striker Eureka so bad...
I want a model of Gipsy Danger and Striker Eureka so bad...
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Ahhhh, Inorite? I walked out of the movie saying that.Computron wrote: I want a model of Gipsy Danger and Striker Eureka so bad...
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http://www.sideshowtoy.com/?page_id=448 ... ted_400215saysadie wrote:Ahhhh, Inorite? I walked out of the movie saying that.Computron wrote: I want a model of Gipsy Danger and Striker Eureka so bad...
Ok, we split the cost in half, and you keep it six months, and I keep it the other six months...
Or there is the much cheaper version.
7"
http://www.toysrus.com/buy/action-figur ... 2-19790016
and then there is the in between version:
18"
http://necaonline.com/41110/products/to ... on-figure/
I'm not really sold on the 7 inch version, but the 18 inch one looks impressively detailed.
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Aaaargh, because... I want the statue. But that'll never happen.
The 18 inch does look good, I'm hoping to see model kits at some point. That'd be just perfect.
Somewhat unrelated- while I was looking to see if someone out there had made a knifehead plush yet (YOU KNOW IT'S COMING-Etsy, I'm looking at you...), I found this. That is too ******* cute.
The 18 inch does look good, I'm hoping to see model kits at some point. That'd be just perfect.
Somewhat unrelated- while I was looking to see if someone out there had made a knifehead plush yet (YOU KNOW IT'S COMING-Etsy, I'm looking at you...), I found this. That is too ******* cute.
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My wife loves Tokidoki. I may as well buy that now for her...which means that naturally I'd need a Gipsy Danger model to balance things out. I mean, we can't just have a plush kaiju running around the place unopposed! That would be madness.saysadie wrote:Aaaargh, because... I want the statue. But that'll never happen.
The 18 inch does look good, I'm hoping to see model kits at some point. That'd be just perfect.
Somewhat unrelated- while I was looking to see if someone out there had made a knifehead plush yet (YOU KNOW IT'S COMING-Etsy, I'm looking at you...), I found this. That is too ******* cute.