2012 Movies

Post by **Kaylee** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:32 am

Yaya wrote:
Karl wrote:Just seen Snow White. T'was alright, nice to finally see Bob Hoskins and Ray Winstone together in a movie. The actress playing the Queen was awful though, she seemed to conflate 'shouting' with 'acting'. Most unfortunate.
I was bored to death in this film. Maybe it was because I wasn't feeling well, but it just seemed old, like the scenes were all taken from past movies. Seems like they ripped off everything from Terminator 2 to the Lord of the Rings. Also thought the Queen hammed it up.

The Dark Knight Rises can't get here soon enough. Though this Tim Burton film Abraham Lincoln:Vampire Hunter or whatever has me intrigued by the sheer craziness of it.

And it looks like Pixar might just have their first flop in Brave. Just seems like yet another animated film with the same basic story. Ah well, ten good films in a row ain't to shabby for Pixar.

In fairness I have now got the all-you-can-eat, £15 a month movie ticket so it's likely to have already an impact on the standard of movies I consider adequate

They're just so much more entertaining when you feel like you're seeing it for 'free'.

Help me, Brend

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:55 am

Sorry mate, you're one of me now.

Once you take away the obligation to get your money's worth, righteous indignation will fade, standards will become less important, more films will be seen and the general reaction to 80% of them will be "eh, was alright I suppose."

Post by **Kaylee** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:15 pm

Brendocon wrote:Sorry mate, you're one of me now.

Once you take away the obligation to get your money's worth, righteous indignation will fade, standards will become less important, more films will be seen and the general reaction to 80% of them will be "eh, was alright I suppose."

It's like a beautiful waking coma...

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:25 pm

Seriously, people say to me "seen any good films lately" and it generally takes quarter of an hour to remember what the most recent one was, good or otherwise.

A mind-numbing deluge of acceptable mediocrity. It's fantastic.

Post by **Kaylee** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:05 pm

Brendocon wrote:It's fantastic.

It... is.

Is this what happiness feels like?

Post by **Best First** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:18 pm

It's what Police Academy 1-7 feel like.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:23 pm

There was a 7?

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:11 am

Greg "Grimlock" Berger is in PA7: Mission to Moscow! It's also the nadir of Christopher Lee's wilderness years, just beating being in the Kristian Schmidt version of The Tomorow People.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:27 am

Karl wrote:Is this what happiness feels like?

It's what not being bothered about being happy feels like.

Which I think is what freedom feels like.

Either freedom or apathy, I'm uncertain.

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Mon Jun 18, 2012 8:37 pm

Snow White is the first time I actively and vehemently wanted the Queen Stepmother to kill the teenager and triumph at the end.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Fri Jun 29, 2012 9:57 pm

Ahhhh. Prometheus, I'd read the reviews. I knew that as a Scott film it would almost certainly be very pretty but as shallow as a puddle (the original Alien is ironically one of the few exceptions, probably because the script was mostly worked out before his involvement) but it still wound up a disappointment.

SPOILERS. If anyone still cares.

So the big message of the film is: "God" is probably a dick. Yeah, anyone who's noticed any of human history will likely have worked that out. Hell, anyone who's seen Star Trek V will know that.

But OK, despite the pretentions the film had no real depth to it. But I was expecting that. And it was pretty (even if the new monsters were generally a bit dull). And I liked the twist that the Space Jockey had been wearing a space suit all along. Though as giant blue men they seemed to be the guys from Avatar if they became really pissed off skin heads.

Where it fell down, and fell down badly was the characters. Every, single one of them was a complete moron. The first thing we see in the film is skinhead Na'Vi comiting suicide because he can't think of another way to mix up his species DNA with weird **** and put it in the water. And he winds up being one of the smarter characters. In the rest of the film we get:

"Hey, I'm taking my helmet off!"

"Whoops, we've gotten lost despite have mapped the place and no one has noticed we're didn't make it back until the people who set out after us made it back to the ship!"

"I'M GOING BACK FOR THE HEAD!!!"

"I'll just put this weird **** in your drink and then leave you too it. Even though I've already worked out these are WMD's and it could turn you into something that's a threat to me as much as anyone else".

"Hey, we know something killed all these big strong scary blue men but we'll act like Nedry in Jurassic Park when we see something that the directer clearly told us is supposed to be amazing and cute looking but the effects company made look like an evil penis".

"I'll abandon my watch to go shag Charlize Theron so no one will know those two idiots are in trouble till it's too late" [I'm tempted to let Elba off for this though].

"Even though I want your EVIL MUTANT BABY for my own EVIL ends I'll tell you the news in such a way as to scare the living crap out of you just for shits and giggles. And once you've cut it out of yourself no one will bother to go check on it". [And was the Scottish doctor in on it?]

"Well, I've just woken up after 2000 years and am surrounded by my creations, who could be in unknown numbers with unknown weapons. So rather than trying to lull them into a false sense of security and finding out the exact situation before making my move I'll kill kill those here and just hope I don't turn out to be out classed before carrying on my mission rather than maybe going home and checking in first even though it's been 2000 years"

And that's just some of them.

What was the point of Theron's character? Her getting off the ship made it look as if there was going to be a final cat fight- which might at least have been fun- but she's instantly crushed to death and basically winds up contributing nothing (there's some vague hints of a "real child" Vs "Built child" thing but it's basically restricted to two short scenes). After all, Elba could have just ejected the life pod thing for Shaw. And why cast Guy Pierce as an old man with a bad make up job rather than just casting an old man?

After the hour mark it got to the point where the only thing I was looking forward too was how it was all going to end with everything set up for the first one. OK, where are the eggs going to come from, how is the Space Jockey going to get back to his ship and in the chair, what's the origin of the signal... And I didn't even get that much. The ending wound up leaving me really confused until a friend explained to me it's not the same planet as in the first one. I didn't actually believe him at first. Do those ships just crash a lot then? What the hell was the point of doing it as an Alien prequel at all if it doesn't even have that much going for it?

And it was mildly annoying the very well thought out Alien life cycle was thrown out here for something sillier. The final shot actually felt like something Fox insisted on because they thought you couldn't do an Alien film without an Alien in it.

Frankly, Alien Vs. Predator was better than this, at least it was silly fun. Hell, I've not seen Requiem yet but considering it's presumably shorter and has Michelle off 24 in it it's likely to annoy me a lot less.

"Doctor Elisabeth Shaw" would probably have seemed a nice (presumably intentional but who knows?) Doctor Who homage if I hadn't seen this the same week Caroline John died making it feel like two hours of pissing on her grave.

wideload · Post by **wideload** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:11 am

Just got back from Prometheus. I have to say my expectations about the plot were at zero after reading the reviews. I was pleasantly surprised.

The cinimatography (sp?) and effects were top notch. The 3-d was done very well, and in no was cheasy.

The complaints about plot were overblown. The movie was fantastic. As far as sci-fi goes, the plot holes and character flaws were totally forgivable. The overall pace and experience of the movie was great. Cmon worse than Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem? The movie where the predalian impregnates its victims directly through the mouth?

I think the issue here is that too many Ridly Scott fans are critiquing the movie. The movie has to be seen purely from a sci-fi/horror perspective.

The movie gets an 8.5/10 from me. Definitely worth the experience of seeing on the big screen. Like the original Alien, it's all about mood and atmosphere.

Mr_Tigg · Post by **Mr_Tigg** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:11 pm

wideload wrote:Just got back from Prometheus. I have to say my expectations about the plot were at zero after reading the reviews. I was pleasantly surprised.

The cinimatography (sp?) and effects were top notch. The 3-d was done very well, and in no was cheasy.

The complaints about plot were overblown. The movie was fantastic. As far as sci-fi goes, the plot holes and character flaws were totally forgivable. The overall pace and experience of the movie was great. Cmon worse than Aliens vs. Predator: Requiem? The movie where the predalian impregnates its victims directly through the mouth?

I think the issue here is that too many Ridly Scott fans are critiquing the movie. The movie has to be seen purely from a sci-fi/horror perspective.

The movie gets an 8.5/10 from me. Definitely worth the experience of seeing on the big screen. Like the original Alien, it's all about mood and atmosphere.

Yes! At last someone agrees with me!

I'm in the same boat. The film is perfectly enjoyable. Yup it has it's problems, but the issues are, as you say, forgivable.

It got me thinking about The Avengers - a film I thoroughly enjoyed, but not without it's problems too. The plot was generic, and utterly predictable, plus the aliens at the end were incredibly forgettable, but it was still a great movie experience.

To my mind, it's a better movie than Prometheus, but in the same breadth, I don't understand why the faults in this movie are so easily forgiven by the folks on this forum, whereas Prometheus is not extended the same courtesy.

I think people need to manage their expectations better.

Post by **snarl** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:59 pm

Avengers is better - massively, & imo, because

a) the dialogue is miles better - in terms of congruency
b) action sequences are miles better
c) FAR FAR FAR Better characters in Avengers
d) Acting much better in Avengers.

pretty much think Noomi Rapace is a **** in real life after watching her in that.

Post by **snarl** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:03 pm

How can you have a horror/thriller/science fiction film, where you're supposed to get your suspense (very key ingredient) from the audience being on the character's side, when the characters are for a variety of reasons, such ***** that you want them all dead?

Ergo there is no suspense...

THAT

is one LARGE reason why imo Prometheus is a load of **** on a stick imo

If you will... Prometheus is like a really fit bird that is so ******* thick she regularly shits herself because she goes to the bog but doesn't pull her draws down. then moans about it in a really annoying voice.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:00 pm

Has everyone seen this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... x1YuvUQFJ0

Post by **snarl** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:23 pm

I like that so very, very much.

Post by **Kaylee** » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:38 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:Has everyone seen this yet?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... x1YuvUQFJ0

Mr_Tigg · Post by **Mr_Tigg** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:04 pm

snarl wrote:How can you have a horror/thriller/science fiction film, where you're supposed to get your suspense (very key ingredient) from the audience being on the character's side, when the characters are for a variety of reasons, such ***** that you want them all dead?

Ergo there is no suspense...

THAT

is one LARGE reason why imo Prometheus is a load of **** on a stick imo

If you will... Prometheus is like a really fit bird that is so ******* thick she regularly shits herself because she goes to the bog but doesn't pull her draws down. then moans about it in a really annoying voice.

Wee-hellll you did say in one of the other threads that you thought RID#6 was a really good issue. That, combined with this assessment had led me to the conclusion that you are probably Charlie Sheen in disguise.

What else can I say but haters gonna hate, and you're just all a lame ol' bunch of haters!

Post by **Kaylee** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:52 pm

Not liking something doesn't make me wrong or a hater, it means we have a different opinion.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:32 pm

Karl wrote:Not liking something doesn't make me wrong or a hater, it means we have a different opinion.

The winking emoticon presumably implies that we do not quite hate. However, no such emoticon graces the assumption that you are Charlie Sheen in disguise.

wideload · Post by **wideload** » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:37 pm

snarl wrote:Avengers is better - massively, & imo, because

a) the dialogue is miles better - in terms of congruency
b) action sequences are miles better
c) FAR FAR FAR Better characters in Avengers
d) Acting much better in Avengers.

pretty much think Noomi Rapace is a **** in real life after watching her in that.

Like Avengers, but at 143 minutes, there were times when I nearly fell asleep. Also, a few months later I remember almost nothing about the movie.

I also wouldn't necessarily call the dialogue better. It was more entertaining but very tongue in cheek. When you go to a Robert Downey Jr. movie about the Avengers you go for quips and snarky jokes. When you go to an Alien movie (or a movie in that same universe), you go for atmosphere, effects, mood, chills, etc... If you're going to criticize Premetheus for these things, you might as well criticize Avengers for not having enough alien impregnation.

Mr_Tigg · Post by **Mr_Tigg** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 10:15 am

Karl wrote:Not liking something doesn't make me wrong or a hater, it means we have a different opinion.

My tongue was firmly in cheek when I made the comment. You're entitled to your opinion, it's just that on this occasion your opinion is wrong!

With regards to Charlie Sheen - it was a reference to the extreme manner in which Snarl expresses his views (e.g. "I basically think Noomi Rapace is a **** in real life for starring in that film"). Again it was tongue in cheek.

I did consider having a serious debate with you all about it, but I figure I probably won't change your mind just as you won't mine, so better to just accept each others views and move on.

Post by **Kaylee** » Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:37 pm

England's greatest prime minister was Lord Palmerston!

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Oct 16, 2012 1:44 pm

Frankenweenie. One of the best films of the year, and one of my favorite animated movies of all time.

I just don't get Tim Burton. Sometimes his movies are crap, sometimes they are just pure genius, as in this case.

Can't understand it's underwhelming performance at the box office, except to think people are stupid because they saw a 'black and white film?' and decided to pass.

Also saw Hotel Transylvania which was also good fun with excellent 3-D and a nice story.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 8:56 am

I can thoroughly recommend the winner of the British Horror award at the 2012 British Horror Film Festival. Me and Brend are almost in it.

Hot Shot · Post by **Hot Shot** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:11 pm

Yaya wrote:Can't understand it's underwhelming performance at the box office, except to think people are stupid because they saw a 'black and white film?' and decided to pass.

More like they saw another gothic Burton film and felt like they'd already seen it.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:14 pm

Yaya wrote:Frankenweenie. One of the best films of the year, and one of my favorite animated movies of all time.

I just don't get Tim Burton. Sometimes his movies are crap, sometimes they are just pure genius, as in this case.

Can't understand it's underwhelming performance at the box office, except to think people are stupid because they saw a 'black and white film?' and decided to pass.

Also saw Hotel Transylvania which was also good fun with excellent 3-D and a nice story.

I think the problem is that if you're any kind of Tim Burton fan, you've already seen the original movie. And if you're not any kind of Tim Burton fan, then the fact that it's black and white doesn't help. Plus, I think that somewhere between Sweeney Todd and Alice in Wonderland, Tim Burton became too normal for the weirdos and too weird for the normals.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:58 am

Wreck-It Ralph. Loved this movie. Absolutely loved it.

Been a strong year in terms of animated films. Hotel Transylvania. Frankenweenie. Now Wreck-It Ralph, which I thought was the best.

ruby_moon · Post by **ruby_moon** » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:54 am

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:After reading the entire Hunger Games trilogy in a matter of hours, I can say it better damn well be good.

Good lord that's some good writing.

Yeah That. My sister told me about the books, I downloaded them to my kindle in the airport waiting on my plane to Amarillo, by the time I'd boarded the plane, I'd finished the first one (I waited to board for 2 or so hours) Then read the entire second one on the trip there (another 2 or so hours) and then stayed up all night and read the last one.

I also LOVED Wreck it Ralph. It had a lot of heart, but also a lot of cameos, and inside jokes that only gamers would get (and a constant run of jokes everyone gets.) I want to go back and see it again.