I wear a stetson now. Stetsons are cool.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 8:50 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vIsQ25K ... e=youtu.be

I'm going to need a SWAT team ready to mobilise, street-level maps of all of Florida, a pot of coffee, twelve Jammy Dodgers and a fez.

http://www.denofgeek.com/television/832 ... ailer.html

23 days!

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:01 am

Can't wait for Gaiman's ep!

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Thu Mar 31, 2011 9:23 am

Looks exciting! I went to the Doctor Who Experience in London last month and that was a lot of fun.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:58 am

Yankee Doodle Trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVAgyBOe ... r_embedded

Exciting.

Synopsis for the DVD release of the first half of the series has already been released.

The Doctor returns, alongside newly weds Amy and Rory, to face monsters and mysteries and adventures all across time and space, in a thrilling new series of Doctor Who. Together they'll find themselves in sixties America, battling the invasion the world forgot, then journey on the high seas of 1696 aboard a pirate ship, to solve the mystery of the Siren.

In a bubble universe at the very edge of reality, the Doctor will meet an old friend with a new face, and in a monastery on a remote island in the near future, an industrial accident will take on a terrible human shape. And waiting for them, at the end of all this, is the battle of Demon's Run, and the Doctor's darkest hour. Can even the truth about River Song save the Time Lord's soul?

Only two things are certain. Silence will fall. And a good man is going to die...

'CITING

Now if you'll excuse me, I have first Doctor recons to be downloading.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:03 pm

Brendocon wrote: Now if you'll excuse me, I have first Doctor recons to be downloading.

Apparently Reign of Terror is set for a DVD release. Be interesting to see what they do with that.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:07 pm

Think it's scheduled for the end of next year.

I hope they animate it like they did for the Invasion. Best way forward in my view.

Or maybe they've, like, found the rest of it and not told us? How cool would that be? [/hopeful geeking]

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:09 pm

If only!

Doesn't animating the episodes cost a heck of a lot of money? Wouldn't have thought the Restoration Team have much cash hanging around.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:20 pm

Weren't the Invasion animations funded by a planned Shalka-esque animation falling through? Maybe something similar's happened and freed up some budget.

I mean hell, they're pouring cash into doing CG for those adventure games and things like the Infinite Quest. You'd think getting somebody in to scribble the last bit of The Tenth Planet would be higher on the Beeb's agenda. But no, it's in B&W so the Kidz won't want it. Grumblegrumble.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:33 pm

Now, I really like Matt Smith, but this raises a few salient points which make affect my future judgement:

http://www.lovefilm.com/film/Doctor-Who ... ew/943146/

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:40 pm

Matt Smith is my fave 21st Century Doctor.

But the review certainly gives me pause for thought.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 3:38 pm

Matt Smith is my favourite Doctor to have a first name starting with M.

Lovely trailers, and nice to get a shot of Mark Sheppard in the US one. Though I'm surprised they're not selling the entire season on Lilly Cole's legs. Indeed, she looks to be wearing something that covers them up, which surely defeats the entire purpose of casting her? I want her and Amy to have a leg off contest.

Presumably that's Michael Sheen as The Silence(tm) as he's only supposed to be doing a voiceover, I wonder if it was him doing it last season as well?

One odd thing about watching the special features on the Blu Ray is how the old Tardis console room had become the canteen where everyone went to eat their lunch/do Confidential interviews and so on. Good to see it got one last proper usage before it was dismantled. Though ZOMG! Are Amy and Rory watching 10 regenerate? [No they're not, whatever than orange energy light thing is it's not standing in the same place Tennant was relative to the scanner on the console].

As for Reign, IIRC there's no telesnaps for that one, so in terms of some sort of visual representation beyond the VHS footage of Carol Anne Ford explaining the plot whilst standing in front of Colin Baker's coat it's hard to think what they could do other than animation. Though if The Invasion didn't sell enough bucket loads to make animation viable for more releases it's hard to see how a fairly obscure historical with no famous monsters in it will make its money back. They might include the narrated soundtrack from the CD I suppose.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:05 pm

inflatable dalek wrote:Matt Smith is my favourite Doctor to have a first name starting with M.

High praise!

inflatable dalek wrote:They might include the narrated soundtrack from the CD I suppose.

Gosh, I can hardly contain myself.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:06 pm

inflatable dalek wrote:Presumably that's Michael Sheen as The Silence(tm)

I think I may start styling it as The Silents, just to be a prick.

Though if The Invasion didn't sell enough bucket loads to make animation viable for more releases it's hard to see how a fairly obscure historical with no famous monsters in it will make its money back.

1) The French Revolution is cool.
2) The Cybermen are ****.
3) The Cybermen are **** (I know this is the same as the last point, but I think it's worth mentioning twice).

All they need to do is release it to tie in with the 2012 Christmas special where the Doctor visits the French Revolution and spends the entire time Back to the Future 2ing it around avoiding Ian, Barbara and Susan.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Sat Apr 02, 2011 4:12 pm

spiderfrommars wrote: Gosh, I can hardly contain myself.

Plus it'd save them the agro of spending all that time animating it only for 5000 fanboys to tell them they're doing it wrong like they did with The Invasion ("Zoe's wearing the wrong clothes in the opening scene! This whole project is officially evil!").

Ahhhh Zoe... sorry, got a bit distracted there. Listened to the "Lost Story" (ie, an audio book based on an unmade script) Prison In Space this week. Zoe spends most of it in a leather S&M outfit and gets de-brainwashed by Jamie spanking her. How in the name of hell did the production team think people would rather watch The Space Pirates?

And it has to be said, Fraser Hines' Patrick Troughton impression is spookily accurate.

EDIT@Brend: You know the Cybermen are ****. I know the Cybermen are ****. Try telling the great unwashed that. I believe they had some trouble promoting the recoloured Planet of the Daleks as most people expect Pertwee to be in colour anyway and don't consider its presence a big selling point.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:07 am

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2011/04/dw ... e-433.html

And DW Magazine is alleging that one of the four leads will die in the opener. I actually find it hard to get in anyway worked up over that, given that we know Smith is in all season, we know how River ultimately dies, and they've already killed off both Rory and Amy once each. Big yawn.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 7:39 pm

The Big Bang implied that for River, the story where the Doctor finds out who she is, has already happened for her ("You'll be seeing me again quite soon..."). But she doesn't know Rory, not recognising his Auton self and seemingly being genuinely surprised when she finds that picture of him and Amy (she's by herself at that point and has no reason to play act even if she isn't completely trustworthy).

I wonder if Rory is out of the show, for at least a little while, by the mid season cliffhanger? Yeah, she's in the season opener but that could be at a completely different point in her life as well. Or it's a bit of a cock up...

I gave my little 7 year old cousin my Who DVD's that have now been surplanted by fancy pants new editions. I wasn't expecting her to get much out of them, she's never shown that much interest in it despite just begining to watch Sarah Jane. But she's now watched Remembrance of the Daleks three times. She loves Ace, and was asking me all sorts of questions about "The Man in the white seat" ("Why was his mouth all black?").

I love that, it's easy to get embaressed about Who at times, even something as generally good as Remembrance still has woobly plastic looking Daleks who seem to have been in the pub. It's great that a piece of ancient TV (from her POV, she's vaguely aware of David Tennant but Eccleston might as well be William Hartnell to her. Hell, Remembrance is now older than Deadly Assassin was when I had the tape as a kid. It's not far off how old An Unearthly Child was either) can still entertain and be loved by kids. I've let her borrow Genesis of the Daleks to get more of a Davros lowdown as well.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 8:55 pm

If they're going to kill off anybody, I'd expect it to be River.

Solely for the "hang on, they already did that" shock value. And partly because of "finding out who [she is]"... if she were to die, then regenerate. Well.

And we established that her death in Forest of Whatever would kill a timelord outright when The Doctor was going to take the hit.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 9:23 pm

If River Song is a Time Lord and regenerated, wouldn't she take on an appearance other than that of Alex Kingston?

I didn't think Time Lords could choose their regenerations outside of using specific Gallifreyan tech to manage the regeneration, and as the Doctor hasn't yet regenerated with his desire of ginger hair, I'm pretty sure the necessary tech isn't available.

Unless, of course, River doesn't actually 'die' and just uses the regeneration energy to heal herself. But she might have to lop off a hand for that.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 6:10 am

Brendocon wrote: And we established that her death in Forest of Whatever would kill a timelord outright when The Doctor was going to take the hit.

Well, it would have killed anyone outright, it was just the Doctor was as vulnerable as a human to it in this case. So River's "death" doesn't prove anything either way really, even ignoring the cheat the Doctor uses to save her in some form.

Though the more we've seen of her since, it's really hard to imagine the daredevil wild card adventuress who makes the Daleks crap themselves lasting more than five minutes in that Daz doorstep challenge advert without coming to wish she was dead for real.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 8:28 am

Rebis wrote:If River Song is a Time Lord and regenerated, wouldn't she take on an appearance other than that of Alex Kingston?

I didn't think Time Lords could choose their regenerations outside of using specific Gallifreyan tech to manage the regeneration, and as the Doctor hasn't yet regenerated with his desire of ginger hair, I'm pretty sure the necessary tech isn't available.

Romana. Destiny of the Daleks. Deliberately regenerates to look like Princess Astra. Twice.

Well, it would have killed anyone outright, it was just the Doctor was as vulnerable as a human to it in this case. So River's "death" doesn't prove anything either way really

Which was my point - I was throwing that in to stop anybody saying "well why didn't she regenerate when she died the other time then?" -- Because we established at the time that it would kill a Timelord. Simples.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:46 am

Brendocon wrote:
Rebis wrote:If River Song is a Time Lord and regenerated, wouldn't she take on an appearance other than that of Alex Kingston?

I didn't think Time Lords could choose their regenerations outside of using specific Gallifreyan tech to manage the regeneration, and as the Doctor hasn't yet regenerated with his desire of ginger hair, I'm pretty sure the necessary tech isn't available.
Romana. Destiny of the Daleks. Deliberately regenerates to look like Princess Astra. Twice.

Yes. True.

However, I supposed that the necessary tech "isn't available" not "has never been available."

Maybe the Tardis had the tech, which Romana utilised, but at some point since then, the tech fell into disrepair, and the Doctor lacks the necessary skill to fix it, and without a Gallifrey to return to, has no way to get it fixed.

Also, I don't think she actually regenerated to look like Princes Astra until she'd decided on the form. Otherwise, she'd have wasted a lot of regenerations just to get one she liked.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:27 pm

Also, I don't think she actually regenerated to look like Princes Astra until she'd decided on the form. Otherwise, she'd have wasted a lot of regenerations just to get one she liked

She started off as Astra, the Doctor objected so she tried some others, then ended up as Astra again. So yeah, she burned through regenerations for a cheap gag. We have to bear in mind that DotD is rubbish.

If "the tech" was there before, the only reason I can think that it wouldn't be is that it got jettisoned in Castrovalva[?] or one of the other times the TARDIS refitted itself.

Or maybe it's just something female Timelords can do that the blokes can't. Either way, there's a simple precedent for a female Timelord taking the appearance she wants / one she's already had.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 2:24 pm

Having skimmed through a few non-spoiler reviews of the first two eps, I get the impression that whoever dies maybe does so in a flashforward. Or at least a future event that they end up witnessing inadvertently.

NEED NOW.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:12 pm

Surely the obvious thing with Romana is that regeneration works slightly differently for girls? Or that she's just more awesome than the Doctor and can do it better.

I don't mind Destiny, it's got great direction (and the bonus of the steadycam is the rooms have ceilings!), a few neat ideas and Big Ron gets to make up for his Dimensions in Time disappointment. Mind, Davros being a bit **** is a fairly big flaw for a Davros story...

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 7:56 pm

So the worst kept secret of the last few months has been officially announced, the Cybermen are back for the mid season cliffhanger. Without the Cybus logo on the costume either, the Mondas bunch perhaps?

Oddly in the Moff interview in DWM he claims to have no idea why one of his fellow prodcuers claimed there would be no old monsters this year. Was it not him who gave that quote after all then?

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:58 pm

I didn't actually know the Cybermen were back. I was surprised the BBC released that picture. I'm sure there's a lot more to Episode 7 than Cybermen though.

But what's with putting the premiere on at 6pm? FFS.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:33 am

inflatable dalek wrote:Oddly in the Moff interview in DWM he claims to have no idea why one of his fellow prodcuers claimed there would be no old monsters this year. Was it not him who gave that quote after all then?

1) They're not old, they're the Cybus ones without the logo, which is actually quite new.

2) They're not monsters. These Cybermen are actually quite cuddly.

?

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 6:07 am

Right, as long as the season openers better than episode two of Planet of the Spiders I'll be eternally grateful. I was watching it with my mother, and even she, someone completely separate from received fan wisdom, was going "They're not going to do this chase for the whole episode are they? What, really? That's a big close up of Pertwee's stunt double... Wait, this guy can teleport? What was the point?"

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:49 am

Yeah, really not looking forward to watching that. Well, looking forward to the end, only so I can do some Megatron-esque "fall! fall! die you bastard!" shouting towards the end.

Going into lockdown ref news and discussion of the new series now, lest any spoilers leak out. EXCITING.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Tue Apr 19, 2011 7:54 am

Brendocon wrote:Yeah, really not looking forward to watching that. Well, looking forward to the end, only so I can do some Megatron-esque "fall! fall! die you bastard!" shouting towards the end.

The first episode is rather sweet and nice and relaxed despite the real absence of plot, the Doctor's actually rather charming in his childlike interest in ESP, and him and the Brig having an evening out is heartwarming. Plus Benton is proven beyond doubt to be the greatest character in all fiction.

Then the bloody evil villain has to steal the Doctor's car and it all goes wrong. And worryingly, if he'd been driving anything other than a hovercraft one of the last things this incarnation would have done is brutally murder a tramp because he wasn't looking where he was driving...