2011 Movies

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 4:35 pm

bumblemusprime wrote:
And this is all me being calm and reasonable and not calling Yaya a **** for even including the Japanese Earthquake and other, deeply traumatic examples of death and suffering this year, and a Hollywood film making money in the same sentence as mutual bad things.
I will agree that was in awful taste. Yaya, but you've got to watch the hyperbole, son!

It was purely hyperbole and sarcasm, but you are both right, it was in bad tastes and I was being insensitive. I apologize.

Hot Shot · Post by **Hot Shot** » Sun Oct 16, 2011 10:48 pm

inflatable dalek wrote:Find me one bit of dialogue in any of the TF films that's more crap than that.

"You eye'n my piece, Fiddy Cent?"

"Give me your face!"

"I am standing directly underneath the enemy scrotum."

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 10:21 am

Yaya wrote:ROTK got into the top four because of it's directing, score, acting, cinematography, special effects, action, story, etc.

Erm, is it still the top four films that made the most money? If so, then all those things might be, but most likely weren't the reasons it did so well. People wanted to see it and they paid to see it was.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 12:02 pm

inflatable dalek wrote:
And this is all me being calm and reasonable and not calling Yaya a **** for even including the Japanese Earthquake and other, deeply traumatic examples of death and suffering this year, and a Hollywood film making money in the same sentence as mutual bad things.

I'm sorry, but I can't be as calm and reasonable. Yaya, you're a ****.

The earthquake and tsunami hit during my last class for the semester. I didn't go back to work for seven weeks, but I was "on call" the entire time. That meant that I received full pay, but had to stay in or near my apartment in case a school needed a teacher on short noticed. So that was seven solid weeks of watching the situation go from bad, to tragic, to terrible, to borderline apocalyptic. I'm told that there are some people who have shown signs of PTSD just from the constant exposure to the (often HD) images and videos of the disaster. Within the first week, the death toll jumped to around 20,000. An elementary school in the area lost EIGHTY PERCENT of its students.

Believe it or not, I can actually connect this back to DotM. There are some unbelievably realistic scenes of destruction in that movie, much of which takes place in Chicago, my home town. After months of seeing disaster footage from this country, watching my home town get obliterated was very tough to watch. My girlfriend actually asked me if I was alright during one of the shots, because I'd apparently crushed the bag of popcorn I was holding without noticing.

So, boo ****ing hoo. A movie you didn't like made more money than a movie you DID like. **** off.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:44 pm

You [composite word including 'f*ck'] off, Professor. I already apologized and ****** deleted my post.

What more do you want?

Don't ever presume your comments couldn't be considered offensive accidentally. Everyone makes mistakes, as I did here, and I apologized.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 7:37 pm

Well, I was thinking of a detailed reply as I read down those made since Saturday... but perhaps it's just best to call it a no score draw, all agree the box office list is basically meaningless as to how good the films are or aren't and move on. It's probably good that what's happening with The Hobbit movies didn't come up as that really gets me ranting at how everyone involved is missing the point.

So lets talk about Thor instead. Which, by a nice bit of synergy, seems to have a Jon Rhys-Davis tribute act as one of the Asgardians. Not a huge expert on the comic character outside of his showing in The Ultimates so I've no idea how faithful it is (and think whatever Odin was doing with his nap could have been explained better, I think I got it though, some sort of medical bed? Not to up on the myths either) but for the most part it was good fun.

I did think there was a structual problem though in that it would have been better to find out Thor's backstory and where he came from at the same time as Natalie Portman (who does a good job with very little), perhaps even playing up The Ultimates thing of how much he's telling the truth or is really nuts. As is, the film opens with a mystery- who is this man who fell out the sky?- and then proceeds to instantly tell you.

The other flaw is that Thor's four friends (who I'm guessing are from the comics?) don't do anything after the opening fight. I'm hoping the deleted scenes reveal they were supposed to do something during the climax instead of just disappearing after Thor tells them to leave Loki to him, as is even them showing up to prove Thor is indeed Thor is nullified by a giant robot showing up right behind them. And the "Xena..." line is incredibly painful and forced (mainly because after starting off with Xena the writers clearly struggled to think of anyone the others even slightly looked like).

The main plus point for me was what was at risk at the very end, nice and different for a big action film (where normally the hero would be doing what Loki is trying) and somewhat brave as it's hard to get the audience to care about who is in danger.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Mon Oct 17, 2011 9:38 pm

Yaya wrote:You **** off, Professor. I already apologized and ****** deleted my post.

What more do you want?

Don't ever presume your comments couldn't be considered offensive accidentally. Everyone makes mistakes, as I did here, and I apologized.

You call a few lines of text and backpedaling an apology? After comparing the deaths of nearly 30,000 people and the suffering of untold more to BOX OFFICE RESULTS? That's not an apology.

That's an apology.

Post by **Kaylee** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:57 am

Yakusa-ishness

...Is there something we should know about you, K...?

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Oct 18, 2011 6:17 am

Karl wrote:
Yakusa-ishness
...Is there something we should know about you, K...?

Nothing worth derailing the movie thread further for. I've said my piece and made clear that I don't accept Yaya's "apology." As for the "**** you for not forgiving me" line, I'll just pull out the best quote from Spider-Man 3, another terrible movie:

You want forgiveness? Find religion.