Del Toro off The Hobbit

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon May 31, 2010 5:10 pm

http://www.empireonline.com/news/feed.asp?NID=28016

Discuss.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon May 31, 2010 7:04 pm

Hopefully Jackson will step in and they can still use a lot of the groundwork Del Toro has laid.

Can't blame him for not wanting to live in New Zealand for 6 years. I mean, I know it's pretty and all, but does anything actually happen there?

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Mon May 31, 2010 7:10 pm

What? This was the best chance this movie had.

And... it's because of inter-company-fighting in Hollywood. Of course. Why not just give the rights back to the Tolkien estate? At least that way Christopher Tolkien can remain a cranky old man who doesn't want any movies made.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 7:53 am

Brendocon wrote:Discuss.

More Hellboy sooner than later? Good.

Post by **Kaylee** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 8:30 am

It'll be fine, I hear Michael Bay's free...

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:42 pm

Well, I always felt if Jackson wasn't directing, it wasn't worth the effort.

If Peter doesn't step in, can't say I'm eagerly awaiting the disaster this movie will likely become.

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Tue Jun 01, 2010 6:51 pm

Well, so much for that movie.

IronHide · Post by **IronHide** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:06 am

Gonna throw this one out there, see if I get any nibbles...

M. Night Shyamalan

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 1:47 am

IronHide wrote:Gonna throw this one out there, see if I get any nibbles...

M. Night Shyamalan

Oh, you'll get a nibble from that all right. A nightmare that comes back to bite you in the arse.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 2:25 am

dont ruin my dream that The Last Airbender will be amazing!

loved me some Avatar (the cartoon)

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:02 am

The wife loved that cartoon. She's been trying to get me to watch it. I want it in comics form.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 5:19 pm

IronHide wrote:
M. Night Shyamalan

They'll struggle to make Smaug being a dragon a surprise twist.

As for the film itself, I love the book more than LOTR (mainly thanks to the excellent BBC radio version I had as a kid), but trying to get two films out of a very slightly plotted book was taking the piss. So I hope it never happens.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:58 pm

The two film thing is bunk. They ought to do one film of the Hobbit and one of Beren and Luthien or some equivalently epic Silmarillion story.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:45 pm

bumblemusprime wrote:The two film thing is bunk.

It'll probably be like Pirates 2 & 3.

Hobbit 1 would be 'There' - lots of content, action, adventure, fantasy, dragons, etc.
Hobbit 2 would be 'Back Again' - just enough content to have made up an extra half hour to tack onto the end of 'There'.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:42 pm

http://www.fictionalfrontiers.com/

Scroll down. Jackson directing The Hobbit? Might be some life left in this thing yet.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Thu Jul 01, 2010 10:50 pm

I heard the same. This is really the only way to do it--for one thing, Jackson knows exactly what Del Toro was planning and though he'll do it differently, because of proximity he'll be able to implement all the Del Toro stuff.

However, given the sh*t performance of Lovely Bones, we might be better off wishing for Alfonso Cuaron or someone of similar caliber to sweep in.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:50 am

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:dont ruin my dream that The Last Airbender will be amazing!

loved me some Avatar (the cartoon)

There is no hope, no hope, no hope, no hope at all.

http://io9.com/5576076/m-night-shyamala ... e=true&s=i

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:27 am

sigh.. well [composite word including 'f*ck'] me in the goat..

i was REALLY looking forward to this too.

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 6:31 am

bumblemusprime wrote:
There is no hope, no hope, no hope, no hope at all.

http://io9.com/5576076/m-night-shyamala ... e=true&s=i

That is probably the best movie review I have ever read.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:16 am

The Lovely Bones didn't quite work for me. That's two average movies in a row now. Back to Middle Earth quick smart!

As for Shylaman, where did it all go wrong?

Post by **Best First** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:24 am

i think at the point where he decided that EVERY movie had to have a mystery with a twist.

It's like Spielberg deciding that every movie he did had to have a sea monster in it.

Plus i get the impression that he responds to criticism by thinking "They are wrongheaded fools and i must prove them wrong by persisting with that which they criticise".

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:48 am

Weirdly though, it's when he dropped the twists that the films were worse. Signs, Lady in the Water, The Happening. (did the last one have a twist? can't remember now, been trying to forget).

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 11:54 am

The Sixth Sense was good, and I enjoyed Unbreakable. But thereafter, things became awful. Strange, that he could go from so good to so bad. Maybe he just had one or two good ideas from the start, and after that, nothing.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:37 pm

I had my MP Prime with me in the theater for The Village/ My friend Kevin played with it the whole time. He really enjoyed the movie. The rest of us, not so much.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:37 pm

Sixth Sense and Unbreakable are great. Signs would be brilliant if not for the stupidity of the twist (water? really?). I guessed the twist of The Village from the trailer and th Happening just looked terrible.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:57 pm

I thought Sixth Sense was overrated, Unbreakable underrated, Signs enjoyable in a schlocky kind of way. I also enjoyed The Village, although I suppose that has to do with the concept more than the execution, and the "twist" was also easy to decipher. Lady of the Water and Happening, if converted into paper, would not be worth wiping your ass with.

I think he DID buy into his hype a bit much, and doesn't really know how to built tension or suspense without a "reveal" or "twist" structure. Also, I think he might be fine as either a director OR a writer. When he's both, there's not enough check on his artistic instincts, which are poor.

That's why right now, even thought you would think The Last Airbender in 3D would be a smash hit, the dual problems of the director's track record and all the stink raised over the casting will probably make this the dud that kills his career.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 2:52 am

I actually enjoyed The Happening...

But maybe it was just John Leguizamo (too lazy to check spelling) driving himself into a tree.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sat Jul 03, 2010 9:55 am

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:I actually enjoyed The Happening...

But maybe it was just John Leguizamo (too lazy to check spelling) driving himself into a tree.

OPR, you are Comedy Gold.

I feel this is not said enough.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Sun Jul 04, 2010 5:58 am

spiderfrommars wrote:
Optimus Prime Rib wrote:I actually enjoyed The Happening...

But maybe it was just John Leguizamo (too lazy to check spelling) driving himself into a tree.

OPR, you are Comedy Gold.

I feel this is not said enough.

which part? the tree driving? or me being funny as ****?

On a related subject: I was SO excited to see Kick-Ass until I actually watched the movie. It was god aweful. But it DID have the one thing that proves to me that there is a God and he does answer prayers -

Nicolas Cage being burned alive while he "acts" like hes in pain.
This (and ok i admit, Hit Girl) were the only redeeming qualities of this movie.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Sun Jul 04, 2010 3:07 pm

I'm going to see that movie now. Actually, I'm just going to watch the part where Cage is burned alive.

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