The second film is better than the first

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:58 pm

- Mad Max
- X-Men
- The Godfather

... that's about it, isn't it?

There's some "as good as"s - Alien, Toy Story... er, Back to the Future?

Discuss. [Javelin. Shot put.]

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 5:54 pm

- Wrath of Khan
- Evil Dead 2

Off the top of my head. Next.

Edit: OHOHOH Empire Strikes Back.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:04 pm

The Dark Knight...?

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:29 pm

Terminator 2. Just barely.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 8:42 pm

Jackass Number Two!

The Empire Strikes Back?

Post by **Best First** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:34 pm

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets.

Not saying it is good. Just better.

Surely there are a bunch that fit that kind of model?

Oh! Proper one - Spider-man 2

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Wed Feb 03, 2010 11:18 pm

Right on about Spider-Man!

Also: Bad Boys 2.

bumblemusprime · Post by **bumblemusprime** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:47 am

I prefer the first Lord of the Rings but Two Towers gives it a run for its money.

In a trilogy, is the final one always underwhelming? Return of the Jedi/King, Spider-Man 3, X-Men 3...

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:17 am

Obfleur wrote:Jackass Number Two!

The Empire Strikes Back?

saysadie wrote:Empire Strikes Back

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 9:07 am

bumblemusprime wrote:In a trilogy, is the final one always underwhelming? Return of the Jedi/King, Spider-Man 3, X-Men 3...

I think Back to the Future's the only one I can think of where the third is better than the second.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 11:18 am

saysadie wrote:
Obfleur wrote:Jackass Number Two!

The Empire Strikes Back?

saysadie wrote:Empire Strikes Back

Okay, you win this round. But I'll get you next time!

Aaron Hong · Post by **Aaron Hong** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 12:12 pm

Pirates 2 was neat once the action got going.

Lethal Weapon 2, I think that's the one where Mel dragged a building down with a truck.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:46 pm

Brendocon wrote:
bumblemusprime wrote:In a trilogy, is the final one always underwhelming? Return of the Jedi/King, Spider-Man 3, X-Men 3...
I think Back to the Future's the only one I can think of where the third is better than the second.

number 3 is ****, in a film series about time travelling, there isn't any!

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 1:54 pm

And there I was thinking the time travel was a plot device to enable the character stuff that the film's about.

And there's at least two incidents of time travel in it.

It's better than the second one. There being more time travel in part 2 doesn't make it a better film.

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 2:48 pm

Aaron Hong wrote:Pirates 2 was neat once the action got going.

But is it better than the first?

My gut reaction is to disagree on that point, but I don't remember either film well enough right now... I can say that three was fantastic, but I might be influenced by the presence of Kraken.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:06 pm

saysadie wrote:
Aaron Hong wrote:Pirates 2 was neat once the action got going.
But is it better than the first?

No.

I can say that three was fantastic, but I might be influenced by the presence of Kraken.

The Kraken was in the second one. Well, it was in the third one, too, but it had been deadified.

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 3:21 pm

Ah yeah, had a refresher at IMDB.com.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 4:29 pm

How about a case where the third film is better than the first?

The only film that comes to mind is Revenge of the Sith.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:22 pm

It's still **** though.

Superman II.

Oh - second film better than the first: From Russia With Love.
Third film better than the second: Goldfinger.

Shame it all sort of tails off after that, though.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Thu Feb 04, 2010 7:25 pm

Brendocon wrote: Superman II.

I have debated myself for years about which film was better, Superman I or Superman II.

In the end, I think I enjoyed the second film more, but the first film was the best superhero movie to date and the standard by which all other superhero movies are judged.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 5:15 pm

Hellboy 2 The Golden Army.

I agree with X2, Spidey 2, Godfather 2, Empire, Kahn.

The Terminator, Alien and Back to the Future are better than their sequels I feel.

IronHide · Post by **IronHide** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:06 pm

Hellboy 2 was soooo much worse than the first!

And I cant believe you all missed Evil Dead 2. So very disappointed.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:07 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:Hellboy 2 The Golden Army.

See, I thought that was bobbins.

Beautifully shot, yes. Spectacular monsters, yes. But bobbins nonetheless.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 6:48 pm

saysadie wrote:Evil Dead 2

IronHide wrote:And I cant believe you all missed Evil Dead 2. So very disappointed.

sadie got there first. Again!

Not that it was much of a sequel, more of a remake, really.

Also, it was the 3rd film, not the second, but most people aren't aware of Within the Woods...

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Sat Feb 06, 2010 9:48 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:Hellboy 2 The Golden Army.

Agreed. Didn't think it was all bobbins. Whatever bobbins means.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon Feb 08, 2010 4:59 pm

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bobbins

Hellboy 1 kinda lacked oomph.

Love the sequel, lots.

Guess a third is out of the question.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:58 am

spiderfrommars wrote:http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bobbins

Hellboy 1 kinda lacked oomph.

Love the sequel, lots.

Guess a third is out of the question.

Only because they were fools and released it with The Dark Knight. I mean, what kind of strategy was that? I don't think it even made back it's production costs.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:05 pm

"Budget $85 million
Gross revenue $160,328,789"

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:16 pm

Here's me thinking this thread was about Revenge of the Fallen

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:37 pm

Who said there won't be third Hellboy? Del Toro wants to do it, Perlman wants to do it, the only problem is that Del Toro has to finish other projects (Hobbit? Is that one still on?) before Perlman is too old.