Chinese Democracy released

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Chinese Democracy released

Post by Professor Smooth » Mon Nov 24, 2008 2:41 am

...and it's GOOD! Oh my god! It's great!

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Post by Shanti418 » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:02 am

It's good in as in "Can stand alongside the rest of the albumcs in GnR's library," but is it worth 14 years/kicking everyone except for yourself out of the band good? Methinks not, Axl.

It's not a revolution, it's a refinement of a sound that's on the edge of being classic rock.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Mon Nov 24, 2008 11:45 am

Heh, I forgot all about this.

Use Your Illusion II was the first CD I ever bought...

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Post by sprunkner » Mon Nov 24, 2008 5:58 pm

Don't you cryyyyyyeeeeeyyyy tonight, there's a heaven above you, bay-bayuh.
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Post by Obfleur » Mon Nov 24, 2008 8:37 pm

Axl's singing voice sucks :o
There, I said it.
He sounds like an old lady. With a cat stuck in the throat.
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Post by IronHide » Mon Nov 24, 2008 10:55 pm

And hes a gigantic tool.

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Post by spiderfrommars » Tue Nov 25, 2008 10:33 am

IronHide wrote:And hes a gigantic tool.
Mick Wall was in our studios yesterday reviewing the album. He agrees with this sentiment.

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Post by Shanti418 » Wed Nov 26, 2008 5:40 am

spiderfrommars wrote:
IronHide wrote:And hes a gigantic tool.
Mick Wall was in our studios yesterday reviewing the album. He agrees with this sentiment.
Not saying he wasn't being objective, but it's not exactly a surprise that Mick Wall thinks Axl's baby is balls given all that hullaballoo about that book he wrote about GnR back in the day.
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Post by Professor Smooth » Wed Nov 26, 2008 9:08 am

To be fair, it seems that there is no shortage of musicians who are complete and utter tools. That's not always a reflection on their music.

Beethoven, for example, was by most accounts an absolute ****.

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Post by Obfleur » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:37 pm

Bono is a piece of ****, and so is the music he writes.
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Post by BB Shockwave » Wed Nov 26, 2008 12:47 pm

And judging by the thread's title I actually thought something changed in China. :D

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Post by Guest » Wed Nov 26, 2008 1:10 pm

...brought to its knees again, courtesy of an album title.

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Post by sprunkner » Fri Nov 28, 2008 2:57 am

Yes, I must admit that as much as I like Wilco, Jeff Tweedy sounds like he's an absolute prick.

Radiohead.... I picture Thom Yorke as being "the weird kid" in the kindergarten, and not grown up.
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Post by Yaya » Sat Nov 29, 2008 12:03 am

Cold Play anyone?
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Post by Scraplet » Sat Nov 29, 2008 10:03 pm

GnR never went away. They just made Axl irrelevent.
*hugs Slash's Snake Pit and Velvet Revolver CDs* :D

I don't even want to hear this record....I'm just not interested.
And it's sooooo wrong to call it GnR. Sooooo wrong.

I went off the 'real' GnR after waiting with anticipation for Use Your Illusion and then finding Axl had turned into Elton John.

"Appetite" will kick-ass for ever, though! That's the only GnR featuring Axl record we need!
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Post by sprunkner » Sun Nov 30, 2008 3:26 am

Didn't Duffy write most of the songs?
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Post by Scraplet » Sun Nov 30, 2008 1:12 pm

sprunkner wrote:Didn't Duffy write most of the songs?
We talking Appetite for Destruction? From memory, I think the credits in the album were for all members equally (which tells you a lot about how egos inflated following success!). But, I think reality was that much of the music was written by the individals in the band or came from earlier projects, mainly Slash, Izzy and, as you said Duff.

Lyrics were mainly Rose, but I think Izzy and Duff are also recognised to have written some of them. "It's so easy" was entirely a Duff song I believe.

But beyond the actual credits, they obvously all had input into the arrangment of the songs - just think of the amazing bass fill that Duff inserts under the intro-guitar in Sweet Child O Mine. Genius! Thats the kind of thing that made them a band then, and gave it such feeling. All that had gone by Use Your Illusion, and I doubt there is any in the dictitorial, Axl solo-project that is Chinese Democracy.
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