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Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:22 pm

HAVE YOU SEEN THE LATEST SOUTH PARK EPISODE? (s11e06)
I want to have sex with it!

Blacksword · Post by **Blacksword** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 8:49 pm

Real world elephants Impy, not giant four tusked Oliphants from Lord of the Rings.

Indian elephants were the biggest they ever used. North African elephants were smaller - they actually refused to fight against Indian elephants because they were scared of them - while the big African elephants south of the Sahara are too wild to train for war. Guys with axes work just fine against real world elephants especially the smaller ones, either that or long pikes. At the end of the day I hate seeing animals in war cause they just end up getting killed out of no choice of their own. Especially intelligent, sensitive animals like elephants, though a horse dying in battle is pretty awful too, they just give out awful screams.

IronHide · Post by **IronHide** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 9:00 pm

Yeah...but horses are terrible people.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 12:03 am

damm, and I thought my picture was real...

Post by **Best First** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:22 am

Obfleur wrote:First Snakes on a plane, now Goats on a boat.

this topic is awesome.

and i ain't even seen 300.

i want to see the others first.

badum tush.

Post by **snarl** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:12 am

Elephants shower with their noses.

The best Elephant is Babar.

You'd all LOVE IT at Babar's house.

Gentlemen, there you have it. Snarl hangs his opinion up on the whole 'elephant debate'.

Take it or leave it fellas - but ask yourself this, friend. If you cant handle the cutting edgeness of these comments - and lets face it, they are WAY THE HECK OUT THERE - and you choose to ignore them, WELL...

You gotta start asking questions about whether you're inadvertanlty letting THE GOVERNMENT TELL YOU WHAT TO DO! Cuz friend, because of them, you're probably ignoring ALL THE FACTS.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:30 am

Man, Babar is some ****** up ****.
Babars mom died so he went to Paris and hooked up with an old lady.
When Babar returns to the jungle and his elephant friends, it just so happens that the elephant king dies - presumably 'cause he ate some poisonous mushrooms.
The body still warm, Babar ******* takes the kings crown and becomes king of the elephants!
But that's not it. No... he also marries his own cousin!

[composite word including 'f*ck'] Babar.

Post by **Best First** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:39 am

Obfluer is a government stooge.

Pops is the new information age. Peace and ****ing. Believe.

Post by **snarl** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 9:59 am

That's right my man, that is ******* RIGHT!

People, dont listen to this government stooge - BABAR ******* WORKED his ARSE off to get where he is today!

[composite word including 'f*ck'] the Swedish bourgeoisie, OF COURSE they're going to knock the ******* PEOPLE'S ELEPHANT with Lies, Damn Lies, (and Statistics).

They want you to doubt Babar. You see, it's this chaos that is EXACTLY what the looney tune left wants to create. It's just part one of their master plan, it's stage one of a big swedish conspiracy...

Aaron Hong · Post by **Aaron Hong** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 10:44 am

Bit old...

http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/03/21

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:38 am

im sitting on the fence over this Babar debacle.

wideload · Post by **wideload** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:41 pm

Blacksword wrote:
wideload wrote: Listen I'm not saying they brought thousands of elephants. Just a few to break enemy lines.

As for Greece not being a place for elephants, the Greeks definately used them in Greece after they saw how effectvie they were in India.
http://fanaticus.org/DBA/battles/asculum.html

There does, however, appear to be no evidence that elephants were at this battle. I just think it's possible. Or at least a lot more possible than other liberties taken in this movie..... noone has got back to me on the smoking goats yet?
I haven't had time to go see 300 yet, so I know nothing about smoking goats.

But I would like to point out that the battle of Asculum was in Italy, not Greece, if you'd read your own article you would have noticed that. The Greek colonies in the south of Italy were starting to panic as the Romans continued to move south, so they hired Pyrrhus to lead their armies against Rome. They may have been Greek city-states but they were most definitely in Italy, which has a lot more open room in it. A few battles involving elephants occurred in Macedon to the north of Greece during the Hellenistic era (after Alexander) - where there is open territory - but to my knowledge no battles involving elephants occurred in Greece proper.

Elephants became popular throughout the Mediterranean after Alexander due to their popularity among Eastern powers. The Carthaginians had them, because they had access to the now extinct North African forest elephant, and were descended from the Phoenicians (whose home territory was Palestine and Syria). The Romans were adept at fighting war elephants, and used them only on rare occasions themselves. Eventually they conquered every state that made use of them, and the last battle using elephants in the West was in 46 BC (where Caesar sent a unit with axes to attack their legs). Thus ended the elephant fad. In the end elephants were only good against cavalry - because their appearance and smell terrified horses - and rigid infantry formations like the Greek phalanx. Alexander's more flexible phalanx and the infinitely flexible Roman legion formations made short work of elephants - they simply let them charge through their lines, then surrounded them and killed them.

To get to Italy you have to go through greece

Blacksword · Post by **Blacksword** » Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:10 pm

Not if you're shipping elephants. I'd have to check, but the Greek states in Italy would have most likely gotten their elephants from the Carthaginians in North Africa. Much easier than going to Asia.

Aaron Hong · Post by **Aaron Hong** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 9:19 am

Bit newer:
http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/070415.jpg

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:17 pm

Saw it yesterday.

I have the urge to enter the army and kill 10k people preferrably chinese, black, deformed, gay and iranian...

Who said it didnt have subliminal messages?

I didnt know Dhalsim was a god.

I guess that if that film existed in the 40s Hitler would have made it as part of his arian induction program.

Apart from all that I really enjoyed it

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:41 pm

The Last Autobot wrote: his arian induction program.

Hitler was training opera singers?

It explains so much.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:51 am

sprunkner wrote:
The Last Autobot wrote: his arian induction program.

Hitler was training opera singers?

It explains so much.

Wagnerian opera singers!