James Brown is ******* dead??? I had no idea...

Post by **snarl** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:47 am

Just saw it on housequake.

Am I the only one how missed this over Crimbo?

Not seen it mentioned in the news...

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:56 am

Being abroad, I only caught this news by chance yesterday.

He seemed fit as a fiddle when he sang at the UK Hall of Fame a month or so ago.

RIP, etc.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:10 pm

It's a shame. He had a lot more to offer the world of music.

On another note, former President Ford died today. It's a tragedy. Two presidents have died this decade...and neither of them are the one that ****ing deserves to!

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:02 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:It's a shame. He had a lot more to offer the world of music.

On another note, former President Ford died today. It's a tragedy. Two presidents have died this decade...and neither of them are the one that ****ing deserves to!

I take solace in the fact that Jimmy Carter is still alive.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:11 pm

Yaya wrote:
Professor Smooth wrote:It's a shame. He had a lot more to offer the world of music.

On another note, former President Ford died today. It's a tragedy. Two presidents have died this decade...and neither of them are the one that ****ing deserves to!
I take solace in the fact that Jimmy Carter is still alive.

Only the good die young. (Curse your humanitarian efforts carter!!!) J/k

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:24 am

When Jimmy Carter dies, I'll take an amount of perverse glee from watching Fox News be forced to say positive things about him.

I think President Ford was kind of lame, tbh. 29 months of office, known mostly for pardoning Nixon. Which everyone seems to universally think was a genius idea in hindsight, even though it cost him his political life back then.

And if only the good die young, Ford was the oldest living President in History. Even longer than Kennedy.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 8:01 am

Shanti418 wrote:When Jimmy Carter dies, I'll take an amount of perverse glee from watching Fox News be forced to say positive things about him.

I think President Ford was kind of lame, tbh. 29 months of office, known mostly for pardoning Nixon. Which everyone seems to universally think was a genius idea in hindsight, even though it cost him his political life back then.

And if only the good die young, Ford was the oldest living President in History. Even longer than Kennedy.

That was kind of the joke man.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Thu Dec 28, 2006 3:57 pm

Shanti418 wrote: I think President Ford was kind of lame, tbh.

Lame is right.

I just read the guy was against Bush and the war, but didn't want the tape released where he speaks out against it until after he was dead. Thousands of lives later.....

Hell man, if you think something is wrong, you can't be quite as vocal dead as you are living, right?

I mean, if you have clout, and he did being a former President of the U.S., you make a difference while you're alive.

Carter makes clear his viewpoint and is not afraid to speak his mind. Ford apparently was too afraid to do so.

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 7:02 am

snarl wrote:Just saw it on housequake.

Am I the only one how missed this over Crimbo?

Not seen it mentioned in the news...

Yeah, I saw it on the news a couple of days or so ago over here. My reaction was much the same.

Aaron Hong · Post by **Aaron Hong** » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:12 pm

Too many deaths at once and you can't help feeling that there's some kind of hoax. Well, nothing much else to say now except...

James Brown is dead.

Long live James Brown.

*puts coat over James Brown*

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 6:32 am

On a happy note, Saddam was hung tonight!

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 3:23 am

Apparently it's "hanged." Linguistic contraversies be damned!

Scraplet · Post by **Scraplet** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:20 am

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:On a happy note, Saddam was hung tonight!

Not that I'm sad to see him go, but you can't help but feeling there should be others going down with him.

All the bastards in the British and American administrations who gave him the materials, weapons, and military intelligence to carry out the deeds will be very happy that dead men don't speak.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Mon Jan 01, 2007 10:26 am

sprunkner wrote:Apparently it's "hanged." Linguistic contraversies be damned!

you are correct.

Saddam was 'Hanged'
I am 'Hung'

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:14 am

We hanged Saddam for the deaths of 150+ civillians in Iraq. President Bush is responsible for the deaths of 100,000+ civillians in Iraq. When can we expect to see him swinging?

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 4:59 am

Professor Smooth wrote:We hanged Saddam for the deaths of 150+ civillians in Iraq. President Bush is responsible for the deaths of 100,000+ civillians in Iraq. When can we expect to see him swinging?

"we" didnt have him hanged. We were asked to keep him in captivity until his execution. And he was hanged for crimes against humanity. Not for being a prick/idiot.

Saddam killed his own people because he felt like it. Like said "Go kill those civilians"

Bush is in the middle of a stupid war. Civilians get killed in war. Im not saying its right. Im saying that legally there is a difference, if not morally.

Aaron Hong · Post by **Aaron Hong** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 6:33 am

Professor Smooth wrote:We hanged Saddam for the deaths of 150+ civillians in Iraq. President Bush is responsible for the deaths of 100,000+ civillians in Iraq. When can we expect to see him swinging?

Last time I heard, him and Laura were on fairly good terms.

Though it didn't stop Bill.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 12:59 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:
Saddam killed his own people because he felt like it. Like said "Go kill those civilians"

"Because he felt like it." Think about that for a moment. Can you honestly think that somebody would have a group of people killed simply "because he felt like it." Sounds to me like they posed a threat to his regime. Sounds almost treasonous to me. Treason is punishable by death...in the United States.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:48 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:
Optimus Prime Rib wrote:
Saddam killed his own people because he felt like it. Like said "Go kill those civilians"

"Because he felt like it." Think about that for a moment. Can you honestly think that somebody would have a group of people killed simply "because he felt like it." Sounds to me like they posed a threat to his regime. Sounds almost treasonous to me. Treason is punishable by death...in the United States.

Yes I can believe it. Its happened throughout history in dictatorships. A religious difference is not a threat to your regime. Its genocide. Its a smaller version of the holocaust that was stopped short because the rest of the world said "Hey asshole, were not about to let that happen again." Once again, the Iraqi judicial system tried him. Not the U.S. not the U.N. His own people had him hanged.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:23 am

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:
Professor Smooth wrote:
Optimus Prime Rib wrote:
Saddam killed his own people because he felt like it. Like said "Go kill those civilians"

"Because he felt like it." Think about that for a moment. Can you honestly think that somebody would have a group of people killed simply "because he felt like it." Sounds to me like they posed a threat to his regime. Sounds almost treasonous to me. Treason is punishable by death...in the United States.
Yes I can believe it. Its happened throughout history in dictatorships. A religious difference is not a threat to your regime. Its genocide. Its a smaller version of the holocaust that was stopped short because the rest of the world said "Hey asshole, were not about to let that happen again." Once again, the Iraqi judicial system tried him. Not the U.S. not the U.N. His own people had him hanged.

A religious difference is a HUGE threat to the regime of a country that is run by Islamic (religious) law. That's hardly "Because he felt like it."

The US invasion of Iraq was much more of a "Because he felt like it" than Saddam's gassing of dissenters.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 12:43 am

Saddam's Iraq was never run, at least in practice, by Islamic law. Saddam was not a practicing Muslim and most of his people deplored his hedonistic lifestyle.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:54 am

sprunkner wrote:Saddam's Iraq was never run, at least in practice, by Islamic law. Saddam was not a practicing Muslim and most of his people deplored his hedonistic lifestyle.

And would those same people want him out of power? If they did, and there were enough of them, they'd seem to be something of a threat, wouldn't they?

I'm not condoning what he did by any means. But his crimes against the Iraqi people were not nearly as grave as Bush's crimes against those same people.

Scraplet · Post by **Scraplet** » Fri Jan 05, 2007 9:37 pm

Bush is just the last in a long line of bastards regarding Iraq and the middle east. This article sums up the bull**** really well. And when you know stuff like this happens, I don't understand why anyone accepts the government line.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/fis ... 114403.ece

Nor was the Pentagon unaware of the extent of Iraqi use of chemical weapons. In 1988, for example, Saddam gave his personal permission for Lt-Col Rick Francona, a US defence intelligence officer - one of 60 American officers who were secretly providing members of the Iraqi general staff with detailed information on Iranian deployments, tactical planning and bomb damage assessments - to visit the Fao peninsula after Iraqi forces had recaptured the town from the Iranians. He reported back to Washington that the Iraqis had used chemical weapons to achieve their victory. The senior defence intelligence officer at the time, Col Walter Lang, later said that the use of gas on the battlefield by the Iraqis "was not a matter of deep strategic concern".

Even more repulsive were the remarks of the then Deputy Prime Minister, Geoffrey Howe, on relaxing controls on British arms sales to Iraq. He kept this secret, he wrote, because "it would look very cynical if, so soon after expressing outrage about the treatment of the Kurds, we adopt a more flexible approach to arms sales".

What right do our governments have to argue the ethical issues with us? Saddam was a bastard and they put him where he was. Full stop.

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