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Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 4:59 pm

"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.

In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison.

Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross.

As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice . . .

And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery.

When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exploited."

- Adolf Hitler, speaking on 12th April 1922
Printed in My New Order by Adolf Hitler, 1941

I'm not really trying to start a discussion about this, I just wanted to have a thread to link to whenever one of the Christians brings up the old "Hitler was an atheist" argument, which really, really gets on my tits.

IronHide · Post by **IronHide** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 5:18 pm

Someone thought he was an atheist??

Why would he bother collecting those religious relics if he didnt believe they had some kinda power?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 6:33 pm

You don't have to be a Christian to embrace voodoo.

I seriously refuse to believe that Hitler spelt "realise" with a "z"...

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 7:26 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:"My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter.

In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison..

Its Interesting to note:

Jesus was jew
His followers were jews
His mother was Jew
His allegedly lover (Magdalene) was jew

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:34 pm

*scribbles down source*

This is very, very helpful to me.

I don't know how many debates I have had with Christians who use the words and actions of the likes Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden to define my religion.

Maybe I should now do the same. Lord knows this is some major kind of ammo.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Nov 22, 2006 11:48 pm

Brendocon wrote:You don't have to be a Christian to embrace voodoo.

I seriously refuse to believe that Hitler spelt "realise" with a "z"...

Or even wrote down his speeches in English...

Post by **Denyer** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:04 am

Very cosmopolitan bloke, was Adolf...

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:52 am

Though far better is this guy I discovered while looking up Catholic complicity in the Third Reich.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:30 am

Whatever you have to do to make sure that you get Hitler and Atheism off your tits is fine by me, mate. That **** burns if you leave it on too long.

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:21 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote: I'm not really trying to start a discussion about this, I just wanted to have a thread to link to whenever one of the Christians brings up the old "Hitler was an atheist" argument, which really, really gets on my tits.

He wasn't an atheist, but he was no real catholic/christian either. During the first years of his rule, he and the churches pretty much got along, but Hitler planned ahead, well-knowing that they would turn agains them. To that end (and because of his arian agenda) he started an 'arch-german" religion, that was basically based on norse mythology. This was late during the war, of course, and he couldn't finish destroying the old churches, but that was pretty much his plan. The Hitlerjugend was charged with going to churches and observing the priests, reporting if they spoke up against the Nazi regime.

Hitler also didn't live like a christian... didn't go to church regularry, and when he finally married Eva Braun before they died, it was a regular no-church wedding. Umm, also sending millions of people to their deaths is not really in line with the ten testaments, either...

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 9:24 pm

IronHide wrote:Someone thought he was an atheist??

Why would he bother collecting those religious relics if he didnt believe they had some kinda power?

The spear of Longinus can control Superman or pretty much any DC hero, you know...

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:51 am

BB Shockwave wrote: Umm, also sending millions of people to their deaths is not really in line with the ten testaments, either...

No? Read up on Moses lately?

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 7:42 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:
BB Shockwave wrote: Umm, also sending millions of people to their deaths is not really in line with the ten testaments, either...
No? Read up on Moses lately?

I choose to ignore the old testament, mostly... especially the parts like "And they pierced the eyes of the aramites with arrows of flame" or "loathsome are the ammonites, for they live in shells"

It's pretty much a history book mostly ( there are exceptions, naturally) and as with all history books, it's written by the victors, so it's pretty much biased.

And didn't Jesus say 'love thy fellow man" is the second most important commandment? Also explaining that fellow man means everyone, not just fellow jews (it meant that until Jesus).

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 8:57 pm

BB Shockwave wrote:"loathsome are the ammonites, for they live in shells"

I thought ammonites existed mostly in the Cambrian and Precambrian eras...

Waitasec. If ammonites existed at the same time as man, maybe dinosaurs did too!

http://www.answersingenesis.org/

Naaaah!

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:27 pm

Rebis wrote:Waitasec. If ammonites existed at the same time as man, maybe dinosaurs did too!

Dinosaurs do exist at the same time as man.

Okay, they're slightly less fleshy and slightly more with the "being fossilised" than they used to be... but they're still about!

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Mon Nov 27, 2006 9:38 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Rebis wrote:Waitasec. If ammonites existed at the same time as man, maybe dinosaurs did too!
Dinosaurs do exist at the same time as man.

Okay, they're slightly less fleshy and slightly more with the "being fossilised" than they used to be... but they're still about!

Then, I would guess that those ammonites are more loathesome than any of us could ever have imagined!

BB Shockwave · Post by **BB Shockwave** » Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:39 pm

Naturally I meant these ammonites...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ammon

Though I guess you knew that... I heard that joke here at Transfans, actually, not sure who said it though...

Actually, Ammon - the god - had horns, and the paleontological ammonites were named after the similarity to a curved /spiral-like horn.

Dinosaurs do exist at the same time as man.

Surely they do! In the Savage land! When molested by Shockwave

or genetically manipulated by Magneto, they get along fine with the caveman living there...

TransFans.co.uk

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