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Post by Pissin' Poonani » Tue Nov 07, 2006 11:22 pm

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dunno, seem to be still hankering over things that ended 2 years ago. quite severly as well.
Sorry mate-my computer picked the evening of that post to crap out on me again, and it's only just decided to start working in the last 10 minutes-just wanted to say that if you'd like someone to talk to, you know how to get hold of me (although I obviously hope you're feeling better).

Karly-although things feel desperate at the moment, you've done the right thing by starting to see a psychiatrist. As Besty said, this isn't a quick process (and I'm speaking from experience here), but it is a worthwhile one. I understand that the amount of help you're receiving at the moment may not feel like it's enough, but please hang on in their, and use us to help you through the rough times as much as we possibly can

In the interest of keeping up my tradition of not being able to post in these kind of topics without using some kind of cliche'd saying, things will get better in the end, and if they aren't better now, then it's not the end.

I understand how you feel-if you'd told me three years ago when I started seeing my shrink that I'd be doing as well as I am today, I'd have laughed in your face (although the depression would have considered such an act too much hassle, so I'd probably have just done my patented 'stare off into space' move), and although I still wobble and worry that it's all going to come crashing down around me on occassion, I'm learning to live with it a bit more every day.

I don't know if I've said this before, but a big part of my 'recovery' was finally allowing myself to see things the way they really are, as opposed to how I'd like them to be. Life is hard, and for the most part it's boring and meandering, and it can seem like the stuff we're all told we should be living for is in short supply, so we get upset and depressed when it seems like we can't 'live the dream' that everyone else appears to be. Also, I was forced to challenge my notion of 'love'. I personally feel that love isn't as wonderful as Hallmark would have us believe-it's hard work, and basically means we bend over backwards in order to make ourselves incredibly vulnerable for other people-this isn't a bad thing, but people will always screw you over whether they mean to or not, and the closer you are to those people, the more it will hurt you.

This all sounds incredibly negative, I know, but for me it was the complete opposite. As soon as I looked at the truth of things (or, the truth as I see it) life slowly got better. Once I stopped trying to force the good stuff, and stopped getting upset when it wasn't there, then the less I focussed on the less than great stuff that comes in between the wonderful moments, and then I started to use those 'lulls' to do productive things to fill the time whilst I looked forwards to the next good thing that was coming, regardless of how long it would take.

Sorry for rambling again-it's not my intention to depress you so I hope you understand what I'm getting at, even if you don't agree with it. I'm just trying to say that I've found the easiest way to become depressed is to try and chase that idea of what a happy life should be, especially when you're at the point where you're first and only focus should be your own well being.

Once again, I hope this reaches you in the manner it was intended Karl, and I hope you're doing better-my door is always open.

Take care. :)
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Post by Kaylee » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:27 pm

quick update- im on a friends computer.

Massive row with my dad (he just doesnt understand, he thinks i'm doing all this just to be mean/hurtful and i should pack it in) so ive left home.

lost my girl, lost my home, lost my family.

currently stayed with friends since saturday night.

hunting for a place to stay, social worker said there's a lot they can do IF i have an address.

tried to kill myself yesterday morning, sadly failed. ended up in A&E and they gave me two valium tablets which im saving for when i get that bad again. currently depressed but not yet suicidal again, tho i will be soon.

psychiatrists are meeting as we speak to work out what to do with me. i call them tomorrow to find out.

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Post by Eline » Wed Nov 08, 2006 12:54 pm

Oh Karl, I really don't know what to say. :( I can't really offer a place to stay as I live in another country, but I really hope that all these professionals are doing their very best to help you.

I wish I could just hug you and make you feel better.

And please do not kill yourself. It may not seem so to you at the moment, but there are people who love you (including us here) and life really is worth living.

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Post by Aaron Hong » Wed Nov 08, 2006 1:07 pm

Not much I can say except keep you eyes open. Always another way. :)
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Post by Tired Tracks » Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:06 pm

Karl, when I first read through the first page of this topic (before it even made it to 2 pages) I was in a lot of releif that you made it out ok but couldn't really put it to words. So first off I would like to say I'm really glad you survived that car crash!

Moving on later in the topic I can see things have gone somewhat pear shaped for you. Death isn't an answer atall. It doesn't cure saddness, it simply spreads it.
I started seeing a counselor on my college campus when my own relationship was going sour, and felt like a used shell when I finally left my now ex girlfriend. That and stress from being a perfectionist in difficult courses made me very depressed. I never got so far as planning/trying to kill myself but I did several times imagine how it would change the world. When I did that I imagined that nothing at all changed because I felt insignificant, like I imagine you do right now.

But then, a friend of my circle of friends died. Drowned the day before his summer vacation started.He was only 20 or so and my friends were destroyed emotionally for several months. one of my friends still randomly breaks down and cries every time she finds something related to him. It was a sad thing really, but you could tell deep down it was all rooted in a very deep love for that boy.

One year later I am still seeing the counslor. Its an on-going process with ups and downs constantly, but Ihaven't tried to kill myself. Mainly I personally see it as a bad solution that only hurts the people that care for me in the deepest way possible, and I wouldn't want that for them.

I hope this message comes across the way I intended it. People care about you Karl, even if your mood doesn't allow you to see it. Counseling does take a lot of time and effort but its almost like a gas station. If you don't stop in regularly you aren't going to be working that well for long.
We all need help sometimes, and thats alright.
Good luck, its safe to say we are all cheering for you!
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Post by Kaylee » Wed Nov 08, 2006 9:53 pm

am incrediby low and on valium right now.

going to see doctor emergency first thing tomorrow.

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Post by Best First » Wed Nov 08, 2006 10:13 pm

i wish i could say more that will help, so glad you are still with us.

keep us updated and use us as you need.

take care man.
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Post by Obfleur » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:47 am

Hugs for you Karl. :(
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Post by Kaylee » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:21 pm

doctor has written me off of work for a month, if i can find a house i can get financial help- enough to live off and to pay for whatever drugs i need.

currently got one valium tablet left and going to see hospital at 3:30.

if me sitting there and pointblank telling them that unless they give me something im going to try and kill myself again doesn't get anything done then there's not much else to say.

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Post by spiderfrommars » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:47 pm

Take care Karl. Can't imagine what you're going through right now but please hang in there. :(

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Post by Legion » Thu Nov 09, 2006 12:51 pm

ditto what spidey says mate! :sqr:

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Post by Kaylee » Thu Nov 09, 2006 7:55 pm

the hospital have given me hope.

They were very smart... they identified all my psychoses- which on top of my bipolar have made my life so bad. My girlfriend leaving affected my abandonment and overattachment issues as well as my total lack of coping mechanisms for loss. The business with my dad is its whole own issue unto itself.

They've given me medication for my bipolar and will start seeing me on monday to give me therapy... they said they can help me gain these coping mechanisms and learn how to function properly again.

there is hope.

Thank you for being here for me. You, my mom, my friends Cathy, Robert, Tristan and Chris have quite possibly... in fact, have exactly... saved my life.

Thank you.

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Post by Hound » Thu Nov 09, 2006 9:32 pm

Make sure you are feeling better for Transforce so you can get a real-life hug :)
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Post by sprunkner » Thu Nov 09, 2006 11:14 pm

Hold on, Karly. It would be a dark world without you.
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Post by Obfleur » Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:15 pm

Does anyone know how Karl is doing?
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Post by Shanti418 » Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:44 pm

That's an excellent question. Now that I see he hasn't posted in awhile, I can't help feel a bit worried.
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Post by Kaylee » Tue Nov 28, 2006 10:32 pm

im still alive. i left home after a row with my dad and my friends and mum have been looking after me. mum helped me find somewhere to stay but im still spending all my time with her and my closest friends, i really can't be alone... when im alone its really difficult. i dont know if my medication is doing anything yet, im unemployed and on sick leave since i can't work and am about £200 away from total bankruptcy, i need to sell my car and my PC. im trying to map my moods out and see if there is any pattern. the psychiatrists just keep concentrating on my recent trauma and don't seem to want to listen when i say that my moods alternate without trauma too- the trauma just makes it worse. sorry for not posting...

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Post by Legion » Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:05 pm

Karl Lynch wrote: sorry for not posting...
don't be daft! posting is probably the last thing on your mind right now! just bare in mind that we're here if and when you need us! :)

take care mate :) :up:

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Post by Best First » Tue Nov 28, 2006 11:20 pm

take care man. thoughts are with you.
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Post by Eline » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:18 am

Take care! :)

I was getting worried, so it's good to know you are still here.

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Post by Aaron Hong » Wed Nov 29, 2006 8:43 am

Hold on, buddy. Remember - here at TransFans we send people to more timezones so you'll always be covered. :D
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Post by sprunkner » Wed Nov 29, 2006 2:57 pm

What he said. Hold on, Karl.
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Post by Denyer » Thu Nov 30, 2006 12:53 am

Nothing useful to add except perhaps to iterate that no-one's ever worth killing yourself over.

There's still interesting stuff to do, see and learn. Some people'll stick around, the trick's hanging onto enough rather than setting hopes on specific ones. The race is long, and all that Baz Luhrmann stuff -- but it really is only with ourselves, that bit's true.

Stick with it, and here's hoping things feel more manageable soon. Coping mechanisms are definitely worth some time over.

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