John Frusciante/RHCP

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John Frusciante/RHCP

Post by Shanti418 » Wed Oct 18, 2006 4:02 pm

So I've been on this HUGE RHCP kick lately. I think Stadium Arcadium is (blasphemy!) better than Blood Sugar Sex Magic.

Plus, John Frusicante kicks ass. For those of you who don't know his story, he was their guitarist back in the late 80s/early 90s...
After the massive success of Blood Sugar Sex Magik, Frusciante started to intensely dislike the popularity and status of the band. While at age 18, he enjoyed the band's hedonistic rock star lifestyle, Frusciante had, by this time, changed his attitude: "But by the age of 20, I started doing it right and looking at it as artistic expression instead of a way of partying and screwing a bunch of girls. To balance it out, I had to be extra-humble, extra-anti-rock star." Frusciante later expressed that the band's rise to popularity was "too high, too far, too soon. Everything happened or better everything seemed to be happening at once and I just couldn't cope with it." Following a performance at Tokyo's Club Cuatro on May 7th, 1992, Frusciante left the band.
By this time, he had developed steady drug habits as a result of touring with the band in the past 4 years, as both Kiedis and Flea had addictions of their own. Performing with them as a teenager, Frusciante was inspired to take drugs as he looked to the others as his role models, saying in an interview, "The kids who smoked pot just seemed like burnouts to me. I was practicing ten to fifteen hours a day. But I never felt like I was expressing myself. When I found out Flea was stoned out of his mind at every show, that inspired me to be a pothead."
Upon leaving the band, Frusciante fell into a deep depression, unable to write music. For a time, he focused on painting and producing various 4-track recordings he had made during his time with the Chili Peppers. By shooting heroin, he felt able to progress with his life, more emotionally and spiritually connected to his music once again, and subsequently spiralled into a life-threatening four-year addiction.
In 2002, he remarked, “When I originally decided to become a drug addict, it was a clear decision,” he said. “I was very sad, and I was always happy when I was on drugs; therefore, I (thought I) should be on drugs all the time. I was never guilty — I was always really proud to be an addict.”
An infamous article published by the New Times LA in 1996 described in wrenching detail the decrepit state Frusciante's life fallen into.[13] Frusciante was described as "a skeleton covered in thin skin." At the height of his addictions, Frusciante was literally on the verge of death, having almost died earlier in the year due to a blood infection. His arms became scarred from improperly shooting heroin and cocaine into his arms, leaving permanent abscesses. The walls of his Hollywood Hills home were broken down and covered in graffiti, before an accidental fire would later burn the house down.
Here's an interview with him during the popular period AND during the seriously ****** up on heroin period. It's amazing just how much that drug can destroy you.

He made a couple CRAZY solo records during his heroin time, saying of that time that
Frusciante claims that his music is a gift from spirits that frequently spoke to him. He has said about these spirits, "I was so happy that someone was visiting I’d make food for them. When they were gone, I’d cry."
Now, of course, the band is bigger than ever, he's reunited with his music soulmates, and he does Yoga and eats vegan. Still, though, he's got a unique perspective about the time when he nearly killed himself:
Despite his harrowing experience as an addict, Frusciante has cited in several interviews that he does not view this time as a "dark period" in his life. “I don’t look at it like that. That was the period that I learned, when I got my mind straight about everything that I needed to know. I really value that period of time,
So, in summary, John Frusciante rules, he's the living embodiment of the idea that no matter HOW ****** up ahd ****** your life can get, you can pull it all back together if it means enough to you.

*steps off soapbox*
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Post by spiderfrommars » Wed Oct 18, 2006 8:48 pm

Yes he's a legend, and the band were much better when he came back, but...

Whats the point of doing a double album if you're not going to experiment at least a tiny little bit? Seemed we just got 2 average Chili albums stuck together when we could've had one really good one. :(

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Post by Shanti418 » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:24 pm

Re: Experimenting. True. But I consider this a summation of their work, where they've blended the pop funk of BSSM with the balladry harmonizing of By The Way era stuff. Kinda like U2's last album was a summary of what they've done since Pop.

Re: One Great Album. True again. But isn't that almost always the case with double albums these days? Spearkboxx/Love Below and Melloncollie and the Infinite Sadness spring to mind. Still thought, there's WAY more than a dozen good songs on those two CDs.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Wed Oct 18, 2006 9:44 pm

Shanti418 wrote:Spearkboxx/Love Below and Melloncollie and the Infinite Sadness spring to mind.
Both went to completely new places musically where those bands hadn't been before tho.

Thought the By The Way album was outstanding btw. :)

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Post by sprunkner » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:59 am

Stadium Arcadium's bloat syndrome still has nothing on the Clash's Sandinista. That one can be whittled down to ten amazing songs very quickly.

Still, I only listened to SA a couple of times. My favorite Chili Peppers album is the Live in Hyde Park record that was also a DVD... where they did "Brandy" and "Leverage of Space." Awesome live album and shows a lot of their musical power.
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Post by Shanti418 » Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:47 am

I would put SOAD's Hypnotize/Mesmorize in the same "A lot better in one CD catagory."

I don't know what it is about SA....for the first several months, I just listened to the one that doesn't have Dani California on it, and I thought there were a half dozen really cool songs on it. (spiderfrommars can attest to that. :P ) Then, just out of boredom, I put the other one a few weeks ago, and I literally can't stop listening to it.
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Post by Obfleur » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:57 am

I've never really listened to RHCP - but of course I listened to Give it Away when it was new, and Under the bridge.
This (plus other things) gave me the impression that they were a rock band (Under the bridge: every rock band has a ballad).

I was so dissapointed when I listened to Blood, sex, sugar, diabetes and some hokus pokus.

I've tried listening to some of their other stuff, but IMO it's really boring music. Nothing exciting at all.

EDIT: What I mean is that I didn't listen to RHCP when Give it away came out. But a year ago I thought "That album might rock!" so I listened to it and thought it was crappy.
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