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Post by snarl » Sun Jul 23, 2006 1:41 pm

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I mean come on, look at them, thye look like an absolute set of *****.

Their music is balls...

Why do people like them?
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Post by spiderfrommars » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:15 pm

They do nothing for me, I must admit.

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Post by snarl » Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:36 pm

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Post by Hound » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:09 pm

Me & Brend saw them supporting the Manics a while back, they were *****.
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Post by Brendocon » Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:14 pm

I think their music's generally half decent. Nowt special... the new track's alright, but it's a straight rip of 2-4-6-8 Motorway.

As the Houndster said - bag of ***** live.
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Post by Metal Vendetta » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:05 am

My neighbours were singing their praises at a barbeque today. I just thought of this topic and smiled to myself.
I would have waited a ******* eternity for this!!!!
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Post by snarl » Mon Jul 24, 2006 7:55 am

They're bollocks, I have to tell my friends off for listening.

"Oh, but you just dont like that style of music"

correct. I dont like ***** music.

I've heard a few of their songs and seen them live, I couldn't tell you any of them thouhg. They're well forgettable, and that is pretty damning.
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Post by KingMob » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:10 am

Sorry, agree that they're mince.
Listening to their music with people who really like them and want you to like them almost as much as they do (but not quite as much as them obv), is like being trapped in a early 80's themed dirty tramp bad taste party but with everyone else taking it seriously and trying overly hard to have 'Fun' and getting narked at you when you decide to get pissed-up and put the Clah on the jukebox instead of their dreary nonsense.
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Post by Best First » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:13 am

i think they are the future of music.

sadly i don't mean that in a good way.

I'm going to see Teenage Fanclub tonight. bosh.
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Post by KingMob » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:15 am

Best First wrote:I'm going to see Teenage Fanclub tonight. bosh.
Hey, cool. Hope you have a good time, man.

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Post by Best First » Mon Jul 24, 2006 9:24 am

Cheers The Mobster.

my mate who organised it said that some of the Fannies website peeps will be meeting in a pub but we could 'avoid them if i liked"

to which i obvioulsy said "Yes, because meeting up with people from an online community fansite dedicated to something with the initials T & F is both sick and wrong, you sick and wrong freako." Then i punched him in the face.
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Post by snarl » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:11 am

Nice come back!

I dont know why, but I was under the (clearly wrong) assunption that people were going to back razorshite to the hilt on this.

How have the garnered the popularity they have?

I'm frankly baffled.
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Post by Getaway » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:40 pm

(Raises head above the parapet)

I do like Razorlight a lot, their first album took a while for me to get into, but now its one of my favourites. Golden Touch has probably already reached a similar anthem status to something like Common People judging by how its perceived by the crowds in the clubs. Somewhere Else is another track that is a guaranteed dance floor filler.

I don;t have the new album yet, so I can't comment on that, although the new single is alright. My only worry is that Jonny and the boys go the way of Franz Ferdinand who have managed to make just about everyone I know who liked them based on their first album, hate them by the second. The general feeling there is that they did a Stereophonics/Travis.

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Post by Brendocon » Thu Jul 27, 2006 7:49 am

The second Franz album is quality.
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Post by KingMob » Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:45 am

Getaway wrote: Golden Touch has probably already reached a similar anthem status to something like Common People judging by how its perceived by the crowds in the clubs
What? Really?
Really really?
...not up here it hasn't, thank [composite word including 'f*ck'].
My only worry is that Jonny and the boys go the way of Franz Ferdinand who have managed to make just about everyone I know who liked them based on their first album, hate them by the second.
Is this a common opinion elsewhere? I don't think I had heard that before. I have heard the 'disappointing as it sounds so similar to the first' one a few times, but that kind of comment makes me wonder more about the person saying it than the relative merits of the albums being discused. Haven't met any haters yet.

Anyone know anything about Tapes 'n' Tapes? Heard their album for the first time yesterday, it were interesting.

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Post by snarl » Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:09 am

Aye, I think Golden Touch is turgid, the bloke sounds like a mong as well. Comomon People is effortlessly much better then GT. Somewhere else - also balls. I got the impression at Reading the Somwhere Else had some sort of signatory value for Razorlight's fans. I just thought it was cock so left the mongs to their own devices and went off to the dance tent.

I tell you what, I do like Rip it up, that one has a fair bit going for it.

Franz - I ******* loved their first song, after that I just thought they got gradually less interesting. I liked Do you want to.
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Post by Brendocon » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:15 am

Somewhere Else is probably their best tune, I reckon. It's typical by-the-numbers prepackaged anthemness. Emotionally vacuus, but still drunken singalonganess.

I spotted Golden Touch on a DJ mate's laptop a couple of months ago. Mercifully he didn't play it. Poor bugger does discos and works parties and stuff... it's probably part of his "I have to play this stuff to keep the idiots happy though it's destroying my soul" set.

Re: Franz. The second album's a bit more artsy and varied than the first one. Maybe a bit overlong. The Fallen is class. Erol Alkan's mix of Do You Want to is ******* superb, though could do with a minute or so shaving off the intro.

Comparing them to Stereophonics is ******* absurd, to be honest. The Phonics made one decent album, then followed it up by releasing a slew of tuneless dirges that worked off the premise of "if we turn it up really loud and shout it'll compensate for being turgid crap". It didn't.

Franz have tunes. Franz can do disco. They can do prog. They can do funk. They don't necessarily do them all well, but they give it a shot. Stereophonics were one trick on the second album and (Dakota aside) on everything that followed. And it was a boring trick at that.

Nobody can seriously listen to You Could Have It So Much Better and compare it to Performance & Cocktails, can they?
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Post by Getaway » Thu Jul 27, 2006 8:50 pm

Thing is Performance and Cocktails wasn't all bad, there were several tracks that were worhty of the first album such as Bartender and the Thief, but it showed signs that they were going down hill. You could have it so much better shows the same signs, I do own it and have tried to like it, but I just can't seem to like it and this is not just my opinion, but seemingly that from everyone else I know who has the album.

On a slightly different tangent what does everyone think oft the kooks, am I the only one whos not sold on them yet? Also who else are you guys really into at the moment; Arcade Fire? The Zutons? Snow Patrol?

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Post by snarl » Thu Jul 27, 2006 9:17 pm

The problem with a lot of new bads I find is that some of them have some really good tunes, but a lot of cock as well.

I personally hear too much from a lot of loudly new music fans who are self important badwagon jumping *****, telling me how x is a classic, y is the bset album ever...

It aint the case, and it probably makes me think a little worse of the bands they mention to be honest.

I like the Zutons the most out of your selection Jets, although I dont htink I own any legal or illegal songs of theirs. But I know I can listen to pretty much all their singles plus a healthy slice of their album tracks quite contentedly.

Discover Prince mate, shits on everybody from a great height - he's the closest thing to a genuine genius around afaic.
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Post by Best First » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:41 am

plus the women from teh Zutons is fit and goes out with an ugly bloke.

there is hope!
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Post by spiderfrommars » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:14 pm

Getaway wrote: On a slightly different tangent what does everyone think oft the kooks, am I the only one whos not sold on them yet?
They're ok. :)
Getaway wrote:Arcade Fire?
Great band.
Getaway wrote:The Zutons?
I thought their first album was a bit average and left it at that.
Getaway wrote:Snow Patrol?
Only one good song. I wish they'd go away.
Getaway wrote:Also who else are you guys really into at the moment
Well there's another thread for this.... but at the moment I'm really enjoying the new Muse album, and I just bought James Dean Bradfield's solo thing that sounds just like Manics but with better lyrics! Oh, and I like Peaches cause she makes me feel tingly.

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Post by Brendocon » Fri Jul 28, 2006 12:48 pm

The Kooks are decent. They're a bit overhyped, but they're decent Sunday morning, sunny walk to the shops with a hangover fare. Inoffensive.

Like Spidey says, Snow Patrol are a one-song band. Well, technically two songs - "Run" and "The One They Keep Releasing Under Different Titles". Not that the latter is a bad track, it's just... well... dull.

I've got a rip of the new Zutons album but haven't listened to it yet.

Gotta be said - with the exception of Muse, Delays and The Automatic, all the albums I've picked up this year have been... well... fairly bland. Nothing particularly awful, but in general it's all been pretty dull. After the last Chili Peps album, I expected to snap up the new one, but the two singles have been rubbish and I don't fancy the idea of a double album of boring.

Need to pick up the new Keane album, plus Boy Kill Boy and the Lostprophets. Need JDB and Thom Yorke albums, too. Nice to be hearing new Kasabian and Killers stuff (even if the latter feels like a U2 album track - more Smile than Brightside).

Most of the rock stuff I've been spinning is from last year (Maximo Park, Editors, System of a Down still on repeat). That says a lot about this year, tbh. I'm more plugged into the dancey side of things at the mo, I reckon. Big fat funky breaks are far more appealing than generic indie shoegazing.

Dread as I am to say it, the new Timberlake track is quite good. It's filth. It's Basement Jaxx doing filth. That alone makes it kwal.

It's weird. Keane, Snow Patrol, Killers, Kasabian, Scissor Sisters... is it 2004 again already?

[EDIT] Oh, The Feeling are alright. Nice and upbeat. Makes a change. Orson are awful.

[EDIT again]

Has anybody heard much of Panic! At the Disco? I keep reading rave stuff about them, but from what I've heard they seem to be a wank version of Fall Out Boy. Who are pretty wank in their own right.
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Post by snarl » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:26 pm

"Krafty kutz and A Skillz".

Go nick their stuff off soulseek, it's good ****.

And get Controversy and 1999 if you haven't got those albums yet.
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Post by Best First » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:29 pm

i've quite liked the Kooks singles.

i am most fond of the lyric - "because i'm a better man, moving onto better things"

oh yes.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:43 pm

Yeah but he's going out with Katie Melua so I hate him. :(
Brendocon wrote: Muse
Do we know if Ob is into Muse? Radiohead meets Queen meets Rage Against the Machine. Can't go wrong!
Brendocon wrote: The Automatic
A fantastic first half to the album I thought. Then it fizzles out a bit, like The Killers one did IMO.
Brendocon wrote:After the last Chili Peps album, I expected to snap up the new one, but the two singles have been rubbish and I don't fancy the idea of a double album of boring.
A double album of boring is precisely what it is. Probably one the worst double album I've ever heard, not because its bad, but because its bland, something a double album should never be. Luckily I got sent it free from work. :D
Brendocon wrote:Boy Kill Boy

Another band you can't go wrong with IMO. Kaisers meets Killers. Or The Killer Chiefs...

For my sins I'm enjoying the summery stuff from The Feeling and Keane (though the latter album has an alarming amount of chaff on it).

And I wanna big up The Young Knives, on the cusp of something great.

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Post by Best First » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:45 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:Yeah but he's going out with Katie Melua so I hate him. :(
fair.
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Post by Brendocon » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:48 pm

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Brendocon wrote: The Automatic
A fantastic first half to the album I thought. Then it fizzles out a bit, like The Killers one did IMO.
Yeah, but it picks up again with the last couple of tracks.

Hot Fuss suffered from losing Change Your Mind and ending on a down track. Stick CYM in before Indie and it changes the feel of the entire thing (GIR&R works better after CYM). Also helps if you turn off when Midnight Show finishes - that's an album ender, not Everything Will Be Alright.
Brendocon wrote:Boy Kill Boy

Another band you can't go wrong with IMO. Kaisers meets Killers. Or The Killer Chiefs...
I loved Civil Sin when it came out last year. Nice to see it getting airplay on the rerelease, but it feels a little stale as I've already been there a bit. Just ordered the album.

The new Primal Scream stuff's surprisingly good, too. Though Dolls ain't as good as Country Girl, which was superb.
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Post by snarl » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:09 pm

What does everybody think about the editors?

I just found something very strange out about them...
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Post by spiderfrommars » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:14 pm

I think they're good but the album is samey.

When they played Oxford we saw the lead singer down the pub introducing his new girl Edith Bowman to his parents.

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Post by Brendocon » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:17 pm

I love Editors.

They're Joy Division vs. Duran Duran. Tracks are superbly remixable, too. The indie bit of me loves them, and the dance bit of me loves them.

Cracking live, too.

Album's maybe a track too long. Seems to be a common problem over the past few years.

I think they've outstayed their radio welcome a bit. Reissuing Bullets and Munich was understandable. Putting Blood out again is just taking the piss, though.
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