This makes me sick.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:14 pm

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/07/18/D8IUEVPO0.html

President Bush promises that he will veto a bill that would allow federal funding for stem cell research.

Does he not understand how significant stem cell research is? Does he not understand the applications of it? Imagine if such a veto had been promised about penicillin!

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:23 pm

Yeah I was reading about this - How ******* dumb is that, stem cell reaserch is one of the most, if not the most important medical reaserch in the medical world today.

Religon.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:28 pm

""Just because the budding lives would not survive does not mean that we should ghoulishly conduct experiments on them,"

has there ever been a statement more devoid of scientific merit?

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:29 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Yeah I was reading about this - How ******* dumb is that, stem cell reaserch is one of the most, if not the most important medical reaserch in the medical world today.

Religon.

Where, in any religion, does it say that you can't extract microscopic tissue from the recently conceived to help stop millions from suffering and/or dying?

No matter how you slice it, you have to reach pretty damn far to get that idea from The Bible. It seems that the most powerful man on earth has made just such a leap.

Let's try to leave religion out of this for a bit, if possible. What non-religious reasons could he have to thwart medical science?

Post by **Best First** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:31 pm

sorry, i think you'll sruggle to remove religion from this one.

but in Buch's case - because he is a cynicla **** who will do whatever to hang onto certain voter blocs.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:47 pm

Best First wrote:sorry, i think you'll sruggle to remove religion from this one.

but in Buch's case - because he is a cynicla **** who will do whatever to hang onto certain voter blocs.

He's doing a piss-poor job of it then. His approval rating is at, what, like 20 percent? That means that the only people he has left are the inbred, gun toting, bible-thumping (yet illiterate) scumbags who couldn't spell their own name at knifepoint but somehow manage to vote Republican in every election.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:03 pm

So? He's not getting re elected. What does he care?

Repubs have plenty of time to distance themselves from him and court the middle before the elections.

And if we have "intelligent design" in textbooks, I'm not particularly surprised that we don't have stem cell research.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:06 pm

Shanti418 wrote: And if we have "intelligent design" in textbooks, I'm not particularly surprised that we don't have stem cell research.

That's not as widespread as many believe it is.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:08 pm

I understand why some constraints should be put in place in certain respects but to just veto all of stem cell research is potty.
Instead of just banning the entire thing cant some laws be put in place to restrict certain kinds of research?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:12 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:
Shanti418 wrote: And if we have "intelligent design" in textbooks, I'm not particularly surprised that we don't have stem cell research.
That's not as widespread as many believe it is.

It's not widespread, but it exists.

To use an inflammatory analogy, if there's only KKK in one city in the USA, then violent, hateful racism hasn't been stamped out.

Not to mention intolerance of gays, pro lifers, etc...

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:18 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:I understand why some constraints should be put in place in certain respects but to just veto all of stem cell research is potty.
Instead of just banning the entire thing cant some laws be put in place to restrict certain kinds of research?

Why should laws be put in place to restrict any kinds of research? Why would you want to?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:20 pm

Because, every single movie/book/video game involving genetic engineering has shown us that things COULD go horribly wrong due to the questionable morals of some human beings.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:24 pm

Im assume thee are some issues with stem cell reaserch - all im saying is why cant somthing reasonable we worked out, there are so many areas to SSR that just hitting it with a blanket ban seems stupid but then again, its Bush what should I expect?

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:25 pm

Shanti418 wrote:Because, every single movie/book/video game involving genetic engineering has shown us that things COULD go horribly wrong due to the questionable morals of some human beings.

Zombies and human/animal hybrids are a ways off. We're safe...at least for now.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:24 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:
Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:I understand why some constraints should be put in place in certain respects but to just veto all of stem cell research is potty.
Instead of just banning the entire thing cant some laws be put in place to restrict certain kinds of research?
Why should laws be put in place to restrict any kinds of research? Why would you want to?

What about research on happens when you fling Boulders at a live Prof Smooth - i assume you would be a bit hesitant about that?

Altho i think Brend is keen.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:35 pm

Best First wrote:
What about research on happens when you fling Boulders at a live Prof Smooth - i assume you would be a bit hesitant about that?

Altho i think Brend is keen.

Touche.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:19 am

This is ridiculous. In order to use some forms of artificial fertilization, multiple embryos must be created and then the healthiest one inserted into the uterus. This leaves several embryos who can either be thrown away, sold, or donated to science. Oh, sure, somebody might buy your embryos and they might get a chance at life-- but why would anyone want somebody else's embryos? This is by far the most productive use of these byproducts. To put a stop to this, one must put a stop to all invitro fertilization.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 12:41 am

He used his veto. That mother ******.

Laser Rod Optimus Prime · Post by **Laser Rod Optimus Prime** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 2:00 am

And congress could agree to override him...

****** x2

Post by **snarl** » Thu Jul 20, 2006 7:47 am

I wouldn't worry - as soon as his doddering even thicker more aggressive **** of a pops gets the AIDS or goes metal he'll change his mind and get it cooking, absolute spastic ****.