If Walcott's ready for England then the Lib Dems are ready

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If Walcott's ready for England then the Lib Dems are ready

Post by snarl » Tue May 30, 2006 9:07 pm

for government

*and as for Hargreaves....*

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Tue May 30, 2006 9:14 pm

He did just about nothing, was out of position - essentially looked like someone who hasnt played football in the premm. oh yeah... he hasnt.

Its all very nice saying - "oh thats a nice touch" and stuff but this International Football not training matchs.

Christ I prefer Crouch with that special dance he did.
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Post by Brendocon » Tue May 30, 2006 9:36 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:He did just about nothing, was out of position - essentially looked like someone who hasnt played football in the premm. oh yeah... he hasnt.

Its all very nice saying - "oh thats a nice touch" and stuff but this International Football not training matchs.
Yeah, Hargreaves was awful.
Grrr. Argh.

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Tue May 30, 2006 9:43 pm

Hehe - same gos for Theo, not ready at all.
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Post by snarl » Tue May 30, 2006 10:14 pm

I would love to see a 16 year old do well for england because thats where my heart is for every englang game.

But i just cant see the how walcott can get the nod ahead of any premiership player, having not performed in the premier league. Its just plain crazy, the lad was clearly out of his league. Can you imagine what its going to be like against the likes of italy or argantina for instance...
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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Tue May 30, 2006 10:19 pm

I kept a close eye on him from the moment he came on - he just seemed to float about, didnt really know where he should be, never tracked back and when he did he got in the way of another CM leaving them with no passing options.

He might have some talent but he looked like somoene who didnt know the game, didnt know his postional play etc... imagine him against an experienced defence they would pull him all over the place.
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Post by Metal Vendetta » Wed May 31, 2006 12:27 am

I don't think it really matters who gets picked for the team. England will finish second in their group to Sweden. Germany will win their group. Germany will beat England in Munich, probably on penalties, and it will all be over before the end of June.

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Post by Getaway » Wed May 31, 2006 4:23 am

Must admit I'm losing my faith in Hargreaves, he finally gets a chance to play in his favourite position and balls it up. This was probably his only chance if you are not a media darling then you only get the one chance hence why Carrick was dropped after his poor performance against Belarus.

Also I'm really dissapointed with Ian Wright I normally really enjoy his punditry with rampant patriotism, optimisim etc but today he was just a prat. 'Oh lets cheat cause everyone else will be' and when he attacked Hargreaves at the end he got very personel in his attacks which is bang out of order especially when despite not being a stellar player hargreaves has achieved more in his career. is he still pissed off that his boy Shaun didn't make the squad?

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Post by Best First » Wed May 31, 2006 8:36 am

Ian Write is a sh*t pundit, all he does is spout myopic crap and his analysis gets about as complex as 'the boy done good'.

Hargreaves is a bigger problem than Wlacott, we can score goals from other parts of the park but the notion that Hargreaves is going to offerthe defence some cover against decent teams is laughable. How come the one person yet to be tried in that position is Carrick? Rubbish.

Not to say that Walcott isn't an issue, he did rod.

Hpefully they will see that leaving rooney behind is the sensible thing and Defoe will get in the squad.

I like when Crouch scores, its like seeing a special kid win a medal.
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Post by snarl » Wed May 31, 2006 9:46 am

I've got no problems with Crouch.

Owen is class - but right now I'd sooner have Crouch start. his touch is better then Owen's is, whether Owen is fit or not. Crouch's technique is pretty good, Owen actually has quite a cock first touch.

He can win the aerial stuff all day and retains possession really well, he'd link well with Lampard, in a similar way to Drogba does at Chelsea. Gerrard then has licence to roam, Carrick can hold.

If we have no Rooney I'd be strongly tempted to drop Owen and play Crouch - This would allow England to Play Lampard, Gerrard and Carrick all in the same role they have played so well this season for their clubs.

And I think getting the most out of them will help England more then getting the most out of Owen.

But Sven is a ****.
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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Wed May 31, 2006 11:08 am

Play with 1 striker upfront and gerrard in behind - sorted - just make sure that Carrick plays as the holding man - if Carrick doesnt play in the next friendly and Hargeves does im gonna shoot Sven.
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Post by Jetfire » Wed May 31, 2006 2:05 pm

Yesterdays team was fine. I'd prefer Carrickt Carriger in the holding role but Gerarrd in behind the strikers is great and works out the Lampard\Gerrard problem nicely. IMO Crouch has earned his england place but unfortuantly Sven still lives in 2001 and believes Beckham and Owen are at Man Utd and Liverpool. But it was good seeing Beckham's best crosses for years. Walcott isn't ready yet and is unlikely to be before the WC.
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Post by Brendocon » Wed May 31, 2006 9:54 pm

It was pointed out to me today that Crouchy had the space to score because Theo drew his marker and created it. Dunno if that's true - ain't re-seen the goal since being told that.

Really it's Arsenal's recent ***** financial situation (ie paying for that thing they're building that I see whenever I get the train in/out of Kings Cross) that's responsible for Theo not having played in the Prem, rather than his [perceived lack of] ability.

Fact: Arse have to pay Teh Mighty Saints 100k for every competitive club appearance, up until 50.
But they don't have to fork out the 2mill on international appearances until he's got 20 competitive caps.

Ergo the Wenger says "oo eck, I can't afford to play him... oi, Sven - you want to take him to the World Cup? That way I can watch him play in proper games without Dein spanking me for it."

FACT! :(
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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Wed May 31, 2006 10:36 pm

Theo probably did create space as he was out of postion and the crapy defenders just followed him off the pitch! :D
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Post by Getaway » Wed May 31, 2006 11:30 pm

I don't think Carrick will get another chance as he was ***** against Belarus last week and Sven tends to only give players like him 1 chance

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Post by snarl » Thu Jun 01, 2006 7:38 am

Didn't stand out, far from ****.

Sven should play him if we play a 5 man midifeld or Gerrard up front.

If he doesn't get a shout, I'd be gutted for him. Personally, the less Spurs players that play the better afaic.
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Post by Getaway » Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:23 am

I like Carrick as a player, but I just don't think that Erikson likes him enough to trust him with defensive midfielder role, he has more support at Spurs from Davids, which he won't have for England much like Alonso has Sissoko or Pirlo has Gattuso.

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:55 am

He just has the support of Gerrard or Lampard - not bad.
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Post by snarl » Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:32 am

Sven's a dickhead and he is going to lose us the WC.
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Post by Jetfire » Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:01 pm

snarl wrote:Sven's a dickhead and he is going to lose us the WC.
Because England have always been such dead certs.
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