Biggest non-issue ever?

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Mon May 29, 2006 5:13 pm

The remake of The Omen, a film that deals heavily with Satan and features a kid with a 666 birthmark is coming under fire for the use of 666 in the advertising. Doesn't it just seem like common sense to milk this in the advertising?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060528/en ... 0528201110

Hollywood studio uses Satanic '666' to hype new horror film

Sun May 28, 4:11 PM ET

LOS ANGELES (AFP) - With the clamor over religious thriller "The Da Vinci Code" barely fading, a major Hollywood studio is mining the same vein with a Satanic "666" marketing campaign for its new horror film.
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"The Omen", a remake of the 1976 horror classic, is the kind of film that routinely makes it big at the box office, appealing to the coveted demographic of young and predominantly male thrill-seekers.

Twentieth Century Fox has banked "The Omen" on a promotional campaign based on "666", the number associated with Satan, based on Revelation, the last book in the Bible.

Even the film's worldwide debut is set for June 6, 2006, or 06/06/06, which the studio conveniently has shortened to 666 in the film's logo.

In the Christian culture, the number "666" is the symbol of the devil, as related by Revelation 13:18: "This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666."

"The Omen" is the story of a father who realizes his adopted infant son, Damien, who has a 666 birthmark on his skull, is a reincarnation of Satan. A maelstrom of death surrounds the boy.

"The prophecy is clear, the signs unmistakable: Armageddon is upon us. On 6/6/06, the omen is revealed...and our darkest fears are realized," says the 20th Century Fox website.

The use of a Satanic promotional campaign comes at a sensitive time, after this month's release of "The Da Vinci Code" provoked an outcry from religious groups protesting the film's controversial theme of a married Jesus Christ and a
Vatican cover-up.

"Normally, a marketer is going to be very, very wary about using the devil," said Robert Thompson, professor of television at Syracuse University in New York state.

"But 666 has really emerged in the popular culture as a funny thing you bring up when you're talking about a kid misbehaving on the playground, you say 'I bet this one has a 666 on his scalp'," he said.

But Ted Baehr, president of Movieguide, a conservative Christian publication, warned the marketing could backfire.

"Any time you overemphasize the demonic and the satanic, you're feeding the lesser instincts of people who're susceptible," he told AFP.

"The marketing can be the biggest drawback of the movie."

Post by **Kaylee** » Mon May 29, 2006 5:36 pm

a huge amount of controversy over a film that sounds like nothing more than an anaemic remake at best. zzzzz... sleepy...

Post by **Denyer** » Mon May 29, 2006 5:48 pm

Professor Smooth wrote:"Any time you overemphasize religion and the occult, you're feeding the lesser instincts of people who're susceptible," he told AFP.

Couldn't agree more.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon May 29, 2006 7:39 pm

The use of a Satanic promotional campaign comes at a sensitive time, after this month's release of "The Da Vinci Code" provoked an outcry from religious groups

How is this the studio's fault?

Post by **Best First** » Mon May 29, 2006 8:12 pm

The use of a Satanic promotional campaign comes at a sensitive time

...for idiots?

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:18 pm

*Satan by Orbital plays in the background*

*followed by Sympathy for the Devil by the Rolling Stones*

*followed by Devil by Staind*

*followed by Devil by the ****ing Stereophonics*

*followed by Friend of the Devil by the Counting Crows*

*followed by Runnin' with the Devil by Van Halen*

*followed by The Number of the Beast by Iron Maiden*

*followed by Handsome Devil by the Smiths*

*followed by Take the Devil by the Eagles*

*followed by Some Devil by Dave Matthews*

*followed by Kung -Fu Devil by AFI*

*followed by Mark of the Devil by Pulp*

*followed by Run Down the Devil by Alice Cooper*

*followed by Goddamn Devil by Ugly Kid Joe*

*followed by Shout at the Devil by Motley Crue*

*followed by Dance with the Devil by Robbie Williams*

*followed by Lucifer by Catherine Wheel*

*followed by Speak of the Devil by Chris Isaak*

*followed by Pay the Devil by Van Morrison*

*followed by The Voice of the Devil by Ulver*

*followed by Angel Loved the Devil by Kenny Chesney*

*followed by To Hell with the Devil by Stryper*

*followed by Lucky Devil by Thunder Rider*

*followed by the album Genesis of the Devil by Marilyn Manson*

*and not forgetting Antichrist Superstar*

*or Devil's Night by D12*

*or Devil Without a Cause by Kid Rock*

*or Devil's Playground by Billy Idol*

*or indeed anything by Devil Ate My Son*

*or the Devil Gods*

*or Full Devil Jacket*

*followed by To Beat the Devil by Kris Kristofferson*

*followed by Friends of the Devil by the Grateful Dead*

*followed by Highball with the Devil by Les Claypool and the Holy Mackerel*

*followed by Devil's Haircut by Beck*

*followed by Better the Devil You Know by Kylie ****ing Minogue*

*followed by The Devil Inside by the Incredible PWEI*

*followed by Woman is a Devil by the Doors*

*followed by Devil's Dance by Metallica*

*followed by Angel to you (Devil to me) by Click Five*

*followed by The Devil went down to Georgia by the Charlie Daniels Band, and latterly covered by the Levellers*

*followed by Devil be Good by Jason Webley*

*followed by Rose of the Devil's Garden by Tiger Army*

*followed by Devil Woman by Cliff ****ing Richard for ****'s sake*

*turns Satanist*

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:22 pm

You forgot devil in disguise by Elvis by the way.

*Holds up Cross to MV*

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:26 pm

On another note I've never understood why the xprist was banned for so long?

It's a story about a Priest who fights and edventually beats the Devil through his own sacrafice. IMO there isn't a better endorsement for being Catholic unless there was another reason for it's banning.

Pissin' Poonani · Post by **Pissin' Poonani** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:47 pm

Jetfire wrote:On another note I've never understood why the xprist was banned for so long?

It's a story about a Priest who fights and edventually beats the Devil through his own sacrafice. IMO there isn't a better endorsement for being Catholic unless there was another reason for it's banning.

Perhaps some of them weren't best pleased with seeing a little girl stab herself in the crotch with a crucifix whilst shouting "let Jesus [composite word including 'f*ck'] you"?

Or that the only way to beat the devil was for the priest to become possessed, then commit suicide?

I should imagine that either of those reasons was more than enough for some of them.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue May 30, 2006 4:50 pm

Jetfire wrote:You forgot devil in disguise by Elvis by the way.

I found a few more...though it's still far from comprehensive...

Post by **Best First** » Tue May 30, 2006 8:14 pm

Jetfire wrote: IMO there isn't a better endorsement for being Catholic

whoah. we are never putting you in charge of publicity. ever.

C of E: Join up, have a cup of tea

Catholic: Join up, sacrifice yourself in the war against the beast. THE f***IN' BEAST!

Speasking of the Devil, does anyone think his ass makes him look like Lisa Minelli?

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Tue May 30, 2006 10:10 pm

I think the main reason the Exorcist was banned for so long was because there was concern that weak-minded fools (perhaps already heavily indoctrinated in Christian mythology) might watch it and believe that they too were possessed by the devil. Since this sort of thing has got to be psychosematic, the last thing that people wanted was a wave of "copycat possessions" as kids convinced themselves that the devil was inside them, or used satanic possession as a convenient excuse for other antisocial or violent behaviour.

The things I've heard about paranoid schizophrenia, for example, are plenty scary enough, without having the problem exacerbated by sufferer believing that they are being controlled from the inside by Beelzebub...

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Wed May 31, 2006 12:38 am

Best First wrote:
Jetfire wrote: IMO there isn't a better endorsement for being Catholic
whoah. we are never putting you in charge of publicity. ever.

C of E: Join up, have a cup of tea

Catholic: Join up, sacrifice yourself in the war against the beast. THE f***IN' BEAST!

Speasking of the Devil, does anyone think his ass makes him look like Lisa Minelli?

I was thinking more like Cher.

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Wed May 31, 2006 8:22 am

Whenever I see **** like this, I just keep the following in mind, ignore most of the hullabaloo and go on about my merry way:

People can be idiots.

And because people can be hypersensitive idiots, a friend at work and I are sorely tempted to have a contest to see who can answer phone calls using as many different names for the Devil in place of our own as we can think of without getting fired.

I really wish it was something we could get away with. I'd love to answer the phone as The Eternal Lord of Darkness.

inflatable dalek · Post by **inflatable dalek** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:19 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:
Jetfire wrote:You forgot devil in disguise by Elvis by the way.
I found a few more...though it's still far from comprehensive...

You forgot the definative devil song: Better the devil You Know by Kylie/Steps [Delete depending on your age]

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 4:33 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:weak-minded fools

funny, have heard similiar arguements against having "Jesus of Nazareth" banned...

Post by **Denyer** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 5:38 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:kids convinced themselves that the devil was inside them, or used satanic possession as a convenient excuse for other antisocial or violent behaviour.

What, like a range of square dildos to match the vibrating Harry Potter broom?

The Last Autobot · Post by **The Last Autobot** » Fri Jun 02, 2006 8:08 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:The things I've heard about paranoid schizophrenia, for example, are plenty scary enough, without having the problem exacerbated by sufferer believing that they are being controlled from the inside by Beelzebub...

Ive seen quite a few Schizophrenic that looked upon by an uneducated man could well think its a possesion. But a catatonic with maniacal episodes would fit more the bill.

And really, a schizo wouldnt need a movie to think those things, life is sickening already.

man-with-the-dogs · Post by **man-with-the-dogs** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 9:11 am

No, I gotta say immigration is the biggest non-issue ever. Lou Dobbs is just dying to say "wetbacks" and you know it. [composite word including 'f*ck'] "The omen" and thier clever marketing campaign to get "goth" teens to buy thier crappy movie tickets because...OH LORD!!! It was released on 06/06/06! Not even 6/6/6. 6/6/06! What dorks actually bought into that BS?

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 11:43 am

man-with-the-dogs wrote:No, I gotta say immigration is the biggest non-issue ever. Lou Dobbs is just dying to say "wetbacks" and you know it. **** "The omen" and thier clever marketing campaign to get "goth" teens to buy thier crappy movie tickets because...OH LORD!!! It was released on 06/06/06! Not even 6/6/6. 6/6/06! What dorks actually bought into that BS?

You're the type that talks/criticizes everything while the movie's on, aren't you?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Jun 11, 2006 4:29 pm

saysadie wrote:
man-with-the-dogs wrote:No, I gotta say immigration is the biggest non-issue ever. Lou Dobbs is just dying to say "wetbacks" and you know it. **** "The omen" and thier clever marketing campaign to get "goth" teens to buy thier crappy movie tickets because...OH LORD!!! It was released on 06/06/06! Not even 6/6/6. 6/6/06! What dorks actually bought into that BS?
You're the type that talks/criticizes everything while the movie's on, aren't you?

Also, and not necessarily mutually exclusive/inclusive he's the type that sees a topic, reads the initial post, then posts a reply, without reading all intervening replies first.

man-with-the-dogs · Post by **man-with-the-dogs** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 4:18 am

Rebis wrote:
saysadie wrote:
man-with-the-dogs wrote:No, I gotta say immigration is the biggest non-issue ever. Lou Dobbs is just dying to say "wetbacks" and you know it. **** "The omen" and thier clever marketing campaign to get "goth" teens to buy thier crappy movie tickets because...OH LORD!!! It was released on 06/06/06! Not even 6/6/6. 6/6/06! What dorks actually bought into that BS?
You're the type that talks/criticizes everything while the movie's on, aren't you?
Also, and not necessarily mutually exclusive/inclusive he's the type that sees a topic, reads the initial post, then posts a reply, without reading all intervening replies first.

That is true. I only read and replied to the initial post. I don't have time to read through the entire ******* thread, dude.

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:53 am

man-with-the-dogs wrote:I don't have time to read through the entire ******* thread, dude.

Dick.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:35 am

calm it peeps.