Keno!

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:43 pm

Ah I miss the good old days - Clearly Roy has balls and Viera was a pussy.

proof

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... =roy+keane

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:39 pm

Or: clearly Roy Keane is a ******* asshole - whilst Vieira thinks it's a good idea not to fight... you know, setting a good example with all the footy violence and what not.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 5:49 pm

Sorry, I seem to have totally missed the joke there.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 6:14 pm

Theres no joke to it.

I was more interested to see what 'really' took place as the clip hasnt been seen before, it was never on TV.

Sod all that role model stuff aswell - if your influenced so easily by two ppl haveing a shout at each other im worried for the world.

Its so easy to say that a lifetime of doing right and wrong is then changed by a 30secs shouting match between two men. how weak are ppl? well put bluntly, ppl are NOT that weak they just use it as scape goats.

Oh I killed someone because I play Doom
Roy Keane shouted at Patrick so I shouted at someone
Please...

Post by **Denyer** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:06 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote: if your influenced so easily by two ppl haveing a shout at each other

Kids aren't adults. Yes, they are that weak -- or 'unformed' would be more accurate.

Post by **Best First** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 12:32 am

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote: Sod all that role model stuff aswell - if your influenced so easily by two ppl haveing a shout at each other im worried for the world.

says someone who thinsk a thug is, like, really realy cool cos he plays for my club n stuff n he's good in midfield n viera is a pussy n stuff.

please.

edit - sorry, i just watched that - what exactly is supposed to be impressive or kewl or clever or in any sense endearing about that clip?

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:24 am

Roy Keane= Big wanker.

I see nothing to idolise in someone who is effectively a really mouthy bully.

Post by **snarl** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 4:52 pm

That clip was found on Noah's ark!

Anyway, aren't Chelsea *****?

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 9:52 pm

Roy Keane = God.

He sticks up forhimself, its not like Patrick aint a big man with alot of mouth, I fail to see the bully tactic, If Pat wants to get in Roys face then more fool him.

Anyhows im not to bothered about that I was more interested in the clip itself.

For along time we hear about how teams have rivalrys, or we hear about the 'tunnel fracas' - first time i had seen how wound up these sides really were, i thought it was probably all BS to be honest.
Thats what i like about the clip, it was reality TV from the tunnel, somthing we rarely see.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 10:14 am

if you could stop using the screen to wipe your arse i'd appreciate it.

Roy Keane isn't a role model...

he's a diety!

People shoulnd't be so easily influenced though.

anyway, i only posted this is an insight into the atmosphere in the tunnel, no, really i did, and i have so little respect for your collective intellects that i expect you to believe it to.

oh, and shouting equals strength of character.

all so coherently argued- wouldn't it have neen easier to post 'la la la not listening'.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:31 am

Oh wow, what a witty response, so well argued in fact im going to totaly change my feelings due to what someone wrote on the internet.

Wait , im just going to call the newpapers and procalim a world first!

Stop press "someone changed thier opinion due to sarcasm via the internet!"

Wow...

Take it how you want mate, I wont lose sleep over it.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:54 am

talking to people on the internet has actually chnaged my opinion on several things, of course that involves a capcity to see other people's points rather than just dismiss them by attempting to changing the focus of the 'discussion' or blankly stating your opinion over and over again.

then again it helps it you can actuially articulate your own thoughts in a manner beyond 'i think this cos i do/its obvious' in the first place...

Roy Keane is a waste. Based purely on his football he could be a talismanic individual, however it has become apparent over the course of his career that he is little more than a petty, arrogant, thug who happens to have ambition and talent. His career will ultimatey be rememberd for his tantrums and vindictiveness than his football by all those who don't wear red and yellow shades. His Autobigraphy alone should have seen him banned form the game for a coupel of years, of course being such a big man who stands up for himself he isntantly distanced himself from certain comments within it once it was apparent they could get him into trouble. My what a big man. And he shouts at people as well, so very impressive.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:23 pm

Haha

so you think by being sarcastic ppl are gonna listen to your views? your opinion is the same as it ever was mate. sarcasm isnt going to change my opinion, ever, the only response you will get from me at that point is arrogance as ive lost interest in your view.
Perhaps if you were less sarcastic in your responses you might change more ppls opinions, but then like you say, you need the ablity to listen, and for all your plus points mate I think you undermine your own skills to be honest.

What kind of reponse do you think you will ever gain from me when your sarcastic to me?

Roy Keane was a Manchester United captain, one of the most highly decorated of all of Uniteds captains, Leading the team to more victorys then I an be bothered to list, its clear that he was one of the best CM the english game has ever seen.
He was the driving force of uniteds treble winning side and led them almost single handed to thier champions league finnal.
He is a fiery character neverwilling to back down from a challange - get in his face and he wont walk away.

I can write just as much bull-**** as you about Roy Keane.

im going to return to that I was interested in the side of football we never see - now it comes down to my word V's yours.
And im not going to change my mind, and you cannot prove I might have been thinking somthing else unless you have a magicall thought machine.

So in summery.

I love to see rality TV from footballs unseen world
Roy Keane = God

not going to change my opinion.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:45 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Haha

so you think by being sarcastic ppl are gonna listen to your views? your opinion is the same as it ever was mate.

i'm curious as to how you think you can know that about everything ever? For example your own idiotic blanket ranting on religion has seriously refined my stance as i have no desire to be asociated with it.

sarcasm isnt going to change my opinion, ever,

blanket statements aren't going to stand up to scrutiny, ever.

the only response you will get from me at that point is arrogance as ive lost interest in your view.

you don't demonstrate interets in other people's views when they aren't sarcastic though, this topic is a case in point, MV, Hound, Denyer have all laid forth non sarcastic opinions and questions and you have dismissed them all with a wave of your hand - what's the point in showing you any respect when all you seem to want to do is state 'i think this' and go one to ignore or fail to understand any of the counterpoints made, another case in point i talk about Roy's other aspects aside from his footballing qualities so to counter that you to on to list... his footballing qualities.

As for the notion that 'i can't tell what you think without a special machine', i'm sorry to say that;

a) your not quite as inscrutable as you'd like to think

and

b) if that is what you believe how are you then in a position to tell me that i have never changed my opinion on anything ever?

its almost as if you haven't thought things through. hmm.

Perhaps if you were less sarcastic in your responses you might change more ppls opinions, but then like you say, you need the ablity to listen, and for all your plus points mate I think you undermine your own skills to be honest.

you telling me i need the ability to listen is quite possibly the most hypocritical thing i have ever read. The fact that i don't find many of your arguements in any way comepelling doesn't mean that its true of everyone.

What kind of reponse do you think you will ever gain from me when your sarcastic to me?

the same as i get when i used to try and engage you rationally (strange that i gave up on that), poor wit and repeated statements that are so general as to be meaningless, quite possibly followed by a barrage of toys from the direction of your pram.

I would also never be so stupid as to state that it is impossible for my opinion to be changed on a matter.

Anyway, lets get back to your frantic Roy Keane beat off session, sorry to have troubled this topic with something other than OMG! You are right! ROy is sO Kewl!

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 1:39 pm

This topic has lost me...

What I have sometimes begun to wonder tho, is wether Besters and Impy are actually friends?

Post by **Best First** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:26 pm

i'm sure we can agree on at least one thing...

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:24 pm

Best First wrote:
Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Haha
i'm curious as to how you think you can know that about everything ever? For example your own idiotic blanket ranting on religion has seriously refined my stance as i have no desire to be asociated with it.
Because you always blanket everything with (note how I wont call you an idiot here) sarcasm, your own sarastic stance on religon makes ppl distance themselves from your own ranting. its hard for the oppostion to take what your saying seriously.
So sometimes I have no desire to be associated with what you say either.

blanket statements aren't going to stand up to scrutiny, ever.
I dont think many a statement outside of mathmatics would do to be honest - I tend not to get lost in nuances of tit-tat like you do, picking small quotes for sarcastic retort isnt of any interest to me generally.
Essentially im not to fussy about if my statemnt holds true 100% of the time, Myself I can generally see where someone is comming from, or the point they are trying to make, and i personally feel thats got far more use then being picky and sarcastic.

you don't demonstrate interets in other people's views when they aren't sarcastic though, this topic is a case in point, MV, Hound, Denyer have all laid forth non sarcastic opinions and questions and you have dismissed them all with a wave of your hand
*waves hand* no I didnt actually, but just because i didnt press your favoured quote button and pick each word and sentance apart doesnt mean I didnt talk about the subject.

what's the point in showing you any respect when all you seem to want to do is state 'i think this' and go one to ignore or fail to understand any of the counterpoints made
its called reedom of speach mate, i dont have to belive what someone elses is saying, when I do, it wont be due to sarcasm.
Also im not upset if someone respects my view or not, im glad they dont to be honest, the world would be a boring place otherwise.
which leads to...

another case in point i talk about Roy's other aspects aside from his footballing qualities so to counter that you to on to list... his footballing qualities.
Well, he was/is a footballer and all...

As for the notion that 'i can't tell what you think without a special machine', i'm sorry to say that;

a) your not quite as inscrutable as you'd like to think
Never said or thought i was to be honest. but then you would need a special machine which I now know you dont have so the following cant be true...

and

b) if that is what you believe how are you then in a position to tell me that i have never changed my opinion on anything ever?
its almost as if you haven't thought things through. hmm.
Becaue i am inscrutable and have a special machine!

you telling me i need the ability to listen is quite possibly the most hypocritical thing i have ever read. The fact that i don't find many of your arguements in any way comepelling doesn't mean that its true of everyone.
No, oh wow, im so glad we are all judged here, is there some short list of ppl who make compelling arguments and ppl who dont?
Have you ever considered that some dont honestly care if you find thier arguments compelling or not?
Have you thought some ppl just like to talk? and not have everything scrutinised with magnifying glass?
Perhaps not everyine reads these pages to find compelling arguments from yourself either? maybe they come here for other reasons other then compelling arguments,
maybe they come here for your sarcasm, perhaps its me having a rant, or maybe even a compelling argument on relgion that cannot ever be concluded? (hence why a blanket statement is as good as anything in that respect)

Im intrigued, when your say in the pub, or out with friends, do you take everything thats said so seriously?
Do you require a fully diagnosed opinion on everything?
Or do you let some things pass you by as they are just maybe not worth the bother? or really relevent to change your life?

I think im right in saying that you dont - so why do you feel the need to do so here?
you see I dont, I chuck things out into the forum, much like I do in life, all the time, sometimes ppl give a toss other times they dont, I dont care if ppl like it or not to be honest. sometimes it interesting, other times its not, this for example is interesting to me, it might be to others, again im not fussed if its not.
I was pretty sure it would spark a reaction tho...

I would also never be so stupid as to state that it is impossible for my opinion to be changed on a matter.
Id never be so stupid as to call you stupid either mate.

Anyway, lets get back to your frantic Roy Keane beat off session, sorry to have troubled this topic with something other than OMG! You are right! ROy is sO Kewl!

Harder then patrick yes, kewl im not to sure?

Post by **Best First** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:12 pm

sorry. **** weekend.

still think Keane is one of the biggets c***s in the entire universe mind.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sun Mar 12, 2006 5:53 pm

Fair enough mate.

I think hes one of Uniteds greatest captains and has an anger problem probably stemming from his youth and perhaps somthing to do with his mother...

Im having a torrid time as im going to be working till 6:00am tonight and am stressed to [composite word including 'f*ck'].

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:51 am

Sorry, who's Roy Keane?

Post by **Best First** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 9:35 am

he's the lead singer.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 12:14 pm

Gotcha. And Patrick is on drums?

Post by **Best First** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 1:39 pm

no, he plays bass for coldplay.

The English Premier Charts are the greatest in the world, Ron.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:14 pm

Best First wrote:The English Premier Charts are the greatest in the world, Ron.

You don't have to tell me that, I'm a veteran of the Britpop wars.

*flashbacks*

Blur in the trees! Blur in the trees!
Call in Fatboy Slim, we need big beats on this position!!
Sir, we just got a report from Jesus Jones, they were ambushed by Shampoo out in the open, and Oasis are advancing on the left flank!
*static*
...Hold the line! Hold the line! Do not let Cast break through! Do not let Ca-aaarggh!!!
Sir, they're getting cut to pieces out there by their lazy indie melodies! We have to call in some techno!
*a bass sweep hits, somewhere close*
We can't stay here, the Prodigy are blitzing the whole area with breakbeats - prepare to pull out on my ma-aaaarrgh!
The sarge is gone, man let's get the **** out of here!
*static*
...I repeat, Shed Seven are to lay down supressing power chords until the rest of the company is clear, do you copy?
*static*
Sir, we copy, Shed Seven are down, they were taken out in a Lightning Seeds raid at dawn. The only working indie combos we have left are Gene and the Frank and Walters, and Lieutenant Frischmann reports These Animal Men have destroyed out guitar strings depot!
Dear God, it's worse than I thought. Hold your position, we are going airdrop supplies and Wedding Present CDs on the area. Without Alisha's Attic holding the line the Happy Mondays could sweep through and eradicate us at any moment!

*ahem*

Anyway, to get vaguely back on topic, this is the first time I've heard of the "tunnel fracas", but as far as I can tell the story is "footballers swear", which ain't really news, is it?