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Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Sun Apr 01, 2007 7:01 pm

KingMob wrote:New Avengers [...] Where did you read up to beforehand?

Up to CW issues (I've yet to read anything from the core CW mini and main tie-ins), which is first 20 and the Annual. Breakout was quite cool, but I didn't find it spectacular. Then The Sentry bored me to tears and Ronin and Spider-Woman stuff didn't really grab me. The Collective was probably my favourite arc, with some cool violence and I somehow remember Tony being particularly awesome then.

I heard lot of people saying that it's better now than it was before. Might see what the fuss's about and how it compares with Mighty Avengers, which I rather liked.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:47 pm

Read the latest issue of Wolverine.

Lame. Laaaaaaaaaame ass. They've been doing nothing but chasing their asses around for, what, three issue now?

The more I read, the more ridiculous the Wolverine/Sabretooth rivalry has become over the years.

"So he's his brother! Nope. His father! Nope. Himself? Nah. Well, who gives a [composite word including 'f*ck'] then."

Post by **Best First** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 7:59 am

yes, same old *****.

Do we really need any more after Origin? Its plugging gaps that are already filled IMO, and this lupine race are, frankly, dull and rubbish.

Not to mention the first issue was very reminscent of their fight just before AoA, except nowehere near as good.

b-o-r-i-n-g

Shame as the civil war stuff was alright IMO.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 1:40 am

And I just read issue #3 of Silent War....and was lost.

I mean, it started pretty simple to understand, but this whole Quicksilver thing, I guess I just needed to know a bit more background on the Inhuman happenings. And X-factor. Don't really follow them.

Tomorrows haul for me:
Annihilation Heralds
Avengers Initiative
Iron Fist
Omega Flight

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:27 am

Yaya wrote:And I just read issue #3 of Silent War....and was lost.

I mean, it started pretty simple to understand, but this whole Quicksilver thing, I guess I just needed to know a bit more background on the Inhuman happenings. And X-factor. Don't really follow them.

If you didn't read Son of M and don't know Quicksilver's status as established in X-Factor, I can see how that would be a problem for enjoying this issue.
They don't even put in a little editorial box to help...those seem to be out of fashion.
I guess this is an issue with doing a story that's made up both of a 'series of miniseries' and subplot crossovers; if they don't actually advertise that to the reader, um, problem?

Tomorrows haul for me:
Annihilation Heralds
Avengers Initiative
Iron Fist
Omega Flight

You are clearly man of excellent insight and taste. Concerning comics, if not perhaps tone and human geography.

And oooh, are we doing shopping lists in here now? How very internet.

Avengers the Initiative #1
Fallen Son Death Of Captain America #1
Immortal Iron Fist #4
Marvel Zombies Army Of Darkness #2 (maybe)
Omega Flight #1 (maybe)
Runaways Vol 2 #25
Buffy The Vampire Slayer Vol 2 #2

and maybe a trade of Ultimate Spider-Man.

Decent week, following two light ones.

Post by **Best First** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 12:51 pm

KingMob wrote:
And oooh, are we doing shopping lists in here now? How very internet.

Avengers the Initiative #1
Fallen Son Death Of Captain America #1
Immortal Iron Fist #4
Marvel Zombies Army Of Darkness #2 (maybe)
Omega Flight #1 (maybe)
Runaways Vol 2 #25
Buffy The Vampire Slayer Vol 2 #2

snap.

except Iron Fist, so please don't kill me - i will pick up some trade stuff though if you say its worth it.

i may also grab some more sandman volumes or a Fables or 2.

By the way Jeph Loeb - so rubbish he makes Yaya and BF agree.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 2:58 pm

I have run out of Fables to buy.

Jack's spin-off is good.

I am stockpiling Sandman trades to read en masse when I have a week off work or something. Like, uhm, now.

Just got back from shopping. They didn't have teh new Buffy, so I bought the new UFF trade and will have to go back on Saturday on the offchance. Boo.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:26 pm

Brendocon wrote:I bought the new UFF trade

God War? I thought it was good but not great when I was reading it first, but with every re-reading I like it more and more. Especially since you don't know what's going on during first couple of issues. Waiting for the trade to turn in mail so I can dig in again.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:09 pm

I loved god war, especially trying to figure out wich characters are based on wich. ^^ A healthy mix of inspiration from both Marvel & DC characters.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 10:46 pm

I got:

Fallen Son (aiiight. Dr. Strange sneaks people onto a Helicarrier to check out if Cap's dead? Wasn't that New Avengers?)

Incredible Hulk (Man, that dude is piiiiiiiissssssssed)

Avengers Initiative (Might drop it. If I want to read about kids, I'll read Runaways. PLUS who cares about a bunch of new superheroes? But killing and exiling two main characters in the last 5 pages? Makes me want to tune in again. It's got the whole Big Brother Iron Man in a Dick what's SHIELD really up to type thing going on, and thanks to CW, I can't get enough of that angle)

FNSM (A satisfying ending. Peter David is hillarious. Helmet as a deus ex machina? That's cool by me, since it included Poetic Justice. I dare you to understand that without reading the ish)

52 (Ready for the whole Crime Bible storyline to end, but I've got absolutely no problem with Montoya as Question. They'd better not already kill off the hot redhead lesbian Batwoman. Countdown? Count me in for another 52 weekly payments DC, you bastards.)

Buffy #2 (I am NOT a big Buffy fan. Nothing against it, just never watched it religiously. But I've watched enough and dated enough women to understand the main story arc and characters of the TV show. Even with my relatively detached approach, the last page and "ready to go to bed?" tickled my fancy to no extent. Highly enjoyable and good times. Thank you Joss Whedon, for giving me this weapon to use against my non comic book reading Buffy fan friends.)

DK2 TPB (40% all Frank Miller stuff at my LCS caused me to pick this up. OK so far.)

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 12:43 am

Read Iron Fist. Liking the story, loving the art.

Heralds of Galactus was mediocre. Same old, "I'm a herald of Galactus! Fear me!" Didn't expect Surfer to be able to do what he did though.

Avengers Initiative #1. Liked it, actually. Surprising ending, something definitely that has piqued my interest and will stay on for more.

Omega Flight was okay. I'll give it a go for all four issues

Wednesday for me:
Nova #1
Thunderbolts #113
and of course,
TF Movie Prequel #3

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Tue Apr 10, 2007 11:08 am

Best First wrote:except Iron Fist, so please don't kill me - i will pick up some trade stuff though if you say its worth it.

I think it probably will be...if you like kung fu, Planetary-lite science-explorer stuff and flashbacks to different centuries and cultures that use different art styles. Leaving aside a bias for the character, I think it's a genuinely good comic; the pacing was slightly worrying me, but the latest issue was the best so far in terms of both plot and visceral thrills IMHO. An Empire of Hypothetical Science! The Steel Serpent being made of badass! Gun-fu!

Anyway, yeah, Fallen Son was meh saved by art (I'd really like to read something by Jeph Loeb that I like apart from Superman: For All Seasons and keep being disappointed) and everything else was okay. Runaways was fun, bit of a continuity issue with the Kingpin but who cares really.

This week:
All Star Superman #7
Fell #8
Loners #1
New Avengers #29
Nova #1
Punisher War Journal #6 (might drop this)
Thunderbolts #113
White Tiger #5

It's Friday for UK peeps this week, I think. Bank Holiday and all that.

Post by **Best First** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 7:39 am

MAY 16TH

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:09 pm

Only a year in the making?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:21 pm

Is there a comic to go with that, or are they just releasing random pictures now as a way of hitting due dates?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 5:37 pm

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=109981

I have to admit, the only thing I've ever read of Ellis's is Planetary and Thunderbolts. *Ducks objects being thrown from Nextwave/Transmetropolitan fanboys*

Still though, I think I speak for most of the Ellis fans/atheists on this site when I say, "Oh Warren, you had me at Future Scientific Jesus."

I can't even stop saying it. Future Scientific Jesus. It just rolls off my tongue in an eloquent mess of contradiction. I want to start a rock band just so I can call it Future Scientific Jesus. I haven't seen this kind of genius packed into three words since Phil Hartman's Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:44 pm

Shanti418 wrote:I can't even stop saying it. Future Scientific Jesus.

Maybe if you were saying it right you could stop.

Science. Not Scientific.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:26 pm

lol, I just saw that. Newsarama has it as scientific on their main page (and still does). I suppose it just stuck in my head.

And I do believe you're right, that doesn't stick in my head nearly as much. :P

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 8:49 pm

Shanti418 wrote:*Ducks objects being thrown from Nextwave/Transmetropolitan fanboys*

Ocean doesn't get enough love.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Tue Apr 24, 2007 9:10 pm

If only the same could be said for Compy's mama.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 7:16 am

Ozz wrote:
Shanti418 wrote:*Ducks objects being thrown from Nextwave/Transmetropolitan fanboys*
Ocean doesn't get enough love.

Probably because it's nowhere near as good...

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:33 pm

Again, if only the same could be said for Compy's mama.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:47 am

OK, random thoughts:

Firstly - my god i cannotget over how badly the current Wolverine arc stinks. And can someone explian to me how Freal and Thorne are suddenly not depowered? Good editorialising.

Exiles - getting the chop from my list as of now, and i'm aware i've been to charitable as it is.

Buffy 2 - i actually punched the air at the last page - brilliant stuff, although the latter from teh Willow & Tara fan was outrageous in its assholeness.

some other good stuff picked up last week, notably New Avengers and Ultimate Spidey nad i think i amy have to start actually putting the core X-titles on my standing order again. Fallen Son: Avengers was quite good as well.

New Hellboy this week - woo!

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:26 pm

Best First wrote:although the latter from teh Willow & Tara fan was outrageous in its assholeness.

I skipped the letters page on the grounds that the hardcore Buffy fandom has always been one of few social groups that genuinely frighten me.

Others include the BNP and Leeds fans.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:35 pm

I thought Fallen Son: Avengers was pretty crappy on the MA side of things, pretty good on the NA side of things.

I've also recently read Spider Man: Reign (Crapfest), Pride of Baghdad (Not as jawdropping as everyone made it out to be, but still pretty good), and Bullet Points (A What If Marvel LS that's entertaining enough, but your opinion of it will hinge on if you like JMS or not)

Also, if anyone likes D&D type stuff, The Legend of Drizzzt series is pretty bad ass.

It's 11:00............and Wolverine Origins still sucks.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 4:18 pm

yeah - a pretty massive waste of Steve Dillon.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 5:15 pm

Shanti418 wrote:I thought Fallen Son: Avengers was pretty crappy on the MA side of things, pretty good on the NA side of things.

I've also recently read Spider Man: Reign (Crapfest), Pride of Baghdad (Not as jawdropping as everyone made it out to be, but still pretty good), and Bullet Points (A What If Marvel LS that's entertaining enough, but your opinion of it will hinge on if you like JMS or not)

Also, if anyone likes D&D type stuff, The Legend of Drizzzt series is pretty bad ass.

It's 11:00............and Wolverine Origins still sucks.

I read Pride of Baghdad as well. Also somewhat underwhelmed, though it has been a while since I read a good Watership Down-ish animal fantasy that avoided furry territory. But that high-class raving about it being teh rroxxorr--over the top.

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Mon Apr 30, 2007 6:16 pm

Best First wrote:OK, random thoughts:

Firstly - my god i cannotget over how badly the current Wolverine arc stinks. And can someone explian to me how Freal and Thorne are suddenly not depowered? Good editorialising.

Exiles - getting the chop from my list as of now, and i'm aware i've been to charitable as it is.

Buffy 2 - i actually punched the air at the last page - brilliant stuff, although the latter from teh Willow & Tara fan was outrageous in its assholeness.

some other good stuff picked up last week, notably New Avengers and Ultimate Spidey nad i think i amy have to start actually putting the core X-titles on my standing order again. Fallen Son: Avengers was quite good as well.

New Hellboy this week - woo!

Uncanny Xmen and Xmen have been really good reads over the last arc.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Tue May 01, 2007 1:16 am

I've been catching up on the CW stuff, and I just have to wonder how Marvel will ever get back to being, I don't know, not so serious again? I mean I have just been reading a few issues of the Initiative stuff, so I can imagine what a year of Civil War crammed down everyone's throat must have been like. Not that it's bad, but how will Marvel ever get back to being....Marvel? It was a good shakeup, I guess.

Silent War kinda dragging now. Started off strong, but not much happening.

So who's in for the World War Hulk stuff ahead?

Post by **Best First** » Tue May 01, 2007 8:23 am

i like how serious Marvel is now, there's still plenty of room for fun though, the thought balloons in MA being an obvious example.

I don't buy this notion of geting back to being Marvel, which Marvel? The slightly camp adventures of the 60s? The oh look its another x-title crushingh the main stream marvel universe to death of the 90s?

Change is not implicitly a bad thing, and the status quo isn't always worth returning to.

The one thing that i do think has been pretty much a washout is the fallout of the House of M - getting rid of all the Mutants hasn't had mch of an impact that i can tell.

And i am all over World War Hulk.

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