I like comics, How 'bout you?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:02 am

Actually, it could hinder him, since Tony knows the in and outs and desigend it himself.

But in case you haven't heard sprunk, they're going to be bringing back a Spider Man in Black very soon.

*300th Reply*

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:13 am

*Gratuitous 301st Reply*

Word, Shanti. I could dig that.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 9:02 am

i'd loveto see Peter outsmart stark and turn the tech gainst him though.

and then maybe do a sh*t on him, Howard Moon style.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 10:40 pm

Astonishing 17... simply beautiful.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 2:31 pm

Nextwave news:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... b2962990dc

Boo

Post by **Best First** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 3:48 pm

bah.

still - right call given teh circumstances one thinks.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:46 pm

I'm confused. I thought it was always supposed to be 12-issue series. At least, that's what Nextwave was advertised as when I first heard about it.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Oct 19, 2006 6:21 pm

Warren Ellis wrote:To clear up a common misconception: NEXTWAVE was always pitched as an ongoing series. However, my original intent was to do 12 and then pass it on to someone else. This got garbled, somewhere down the chain of communication, and so the first issue or two got solicited as "part xxx of 12?.

See what happens when you read what's been linked to?

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:07 pm

What's the story on Civil War: Frontline? I've just been buying the main CW and Spidey/New Avengers. Is it worth it to get Frontline?

This topic is 11 pages and not about religion, except for the fact that even the believers among us still probably give more devotion to comics than to God.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri Oct 20, 2006 5:29 pm

Yeah, comics is right up there along with World Cup and British SF Shows as far as big non religious/political topics.

Frontline's aiiight. Here's the thing, it's divided into four little things.

First thing is reporters. Some girl I can't remember and Ben Ulrich. Ulrich is uncovering the Thunderbolts program at the moment, and has even had a run in with Green Goblin. The girl was embedded with some anti regs until they got busted and now she's running the "reporter jailed for protecting sources" allegory.

Second is Speedball. He's in jail. Gitmo allegory. Recently, he got shot on the way to testify that was drawn Lee Harvey Oswald style. She Hulk shows up every once in awhile as his lawyer.

Third is Atlantis. They've got Sleeper Cells of Atlanteans, and this followed some of them being turned "on" and realizing they're Atlanteans. Then Wonder Man was onto 'em, and then he got pumpkin bombed along with the Atlantean Cell he was on to due to an overzealous Green Goblin.

Fourth is blatant offensive war allegory. They take a famous, real battle, juxtapose it against some instance of Civil War, and narrate both of them from a passage from a novel/poem/historical text. For example, last week, they compared a WWI battle where almost a million people died with Gobby's aforementioned pumpkin bombing of a dozen Atlanteans or so.

Overall, it's aiight. It adds something to the story, to be sure, more than most of the other tie ins. But IMO, it's running behind ASM as an essential tie in.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 8:39 am

ASM is the essebntial tie in, no doubt.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:25 pm

The way you describe it, Shanti, it sounds like a poor man's Watchmen.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 8:43 am

i wouldn't really makethat comparison.

if anything its more a poor man's Pulse.

the two main stories move between passable and good.

The Atlantean one seems a bit of a non entity, but i suspect may tie into cibil war when Namor turns up.

and the last bit is, as stated, a bit vile, but as it sonly 2-3 pages, fairly ignorable (or you can just enjoy the prose and ignore the pics).

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Tue Oct 24, 2006 8:34 pm

http://mcsweeneys.net/2006/10/16weldon.html

Aquaman funny. Me laugh. Ha.

Blacksword · Post by **Blacksword** » Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:39 am

Brendocon wrote:Nextwave news:
http://blog.myspace.com/index.cfm?fusea ... b2962990dc

Boo

Argh... Boourns!!!

At least there's a new Daredevil trade out this week to console me.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:09 am

So he's leaving Nextwave to draw something else. What could he possibly draw that wouldn't be a step down from one of the most buzzed about books that nobody's (apparently) reading? What hell? What book will he be doing that can't be a week late every so often so that Nextwave can continue! Come on, Marvel! Tell us what is so space-monkey important that Immonen can't provide us with Nextwave?

Oh, it's Ultimate Spider-Man.

...I'll shut up now.

YES! I HAVE FIVE-HUNDRED OF THE AMERICAN DOLLARS!!!

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 1:35 am

So what did everyone think of the CW this past week? If there's no responses by the time I wake up tomorrow, I'll post some spoilers.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:47 am

Professor Smooth wrote:YES! I HAVE FIVE-HUNDRED OF THE AMERICAN DOLLARS!!!

How does that compare to a hundred of the Earth dollars?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri Oct 27, 2006 2:25 pm

Aiight then, Spoilers....

Let's see here...

Heroes for Hire, Paladin didn't actually capture Cap last ish, Cap (with the help of the Bruce Lee guy) switched places with Paladin real quick, and H4H let 'em go. Iron Man was pissed, but too bad. Now they're working on breaking up a Skrull organ transplanting ring (shape shifting organ + no superheroes = shape shifting non registered superheroes)

Captain America was pretty bad ass, of course. Winter Solider broke into SHIELD with the help of Fury and effectively bugged SHIELD's operations. Later, Red Skull has sold Doom something which reveals something grand about Doom to Doom. Doom is happy. Red Skull says he's going to use the payment to [composite word including 'f*ck'] people up. Skull is happy. Excelllent characterization abounds.

CW: Choosing Sides....basically all teasers for new ongoing serieses.

Venom - Mac sells the book/movie rights to his story before getting hunted down and joining Songbird and Radioactive Man of the Thunderbolts.

Howard the Duck - Howard goes to register, finds out he can't because, according to the powers that be, he doesn't exist.

Iron Fist - Basically details how Fist has been Daredevil. Conversation with Matt, getting surrounded by capekillers, talking about returning to be Iron Fist soon, etc.

US Agent - US Agent is working for the gov't, and he's going to go be part of the new Alpha Flight team under Stark's orders.

Ant Man - Basically just intro to Ant Man, although in this issue, Pym finds out that someone out there is using the suit that was stolen, and he wants to find out who. Loved the classic looking art in this one.

Guiding Light Story - Not even going to bother talking about it.

EDIT

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 1:29 am

that funny. I did notice the "pampered punk" comment was a bit Ultimates-y.

It's nice to see Marvel trying to mix it up and make their heroes hate each other like in the good old days. It makes me wonder what effect CW will have ten years down the line. Will it all be retconned or ignored or will this stuff lead into even cooler stuff?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Sat Oct 28, 2006 7:00 am

Well, Joe Q has said that CW is in part an effort to get back that unease and level of distrust among superheroes like the classic stories.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 1:11 pm

"Victim? Victim?"

ZOMG!

Made all the more awesome by my having re-read Teh Ultimates last week.

I <3 Nextwave

Blacksword · Post by **Blacksword** » Sun Oct 29, 2006 8:21 pm

"Victim? Victim?"

ZOMG!

Made all the more awesome by my having re-read Teh Ultimates last week.

Yeah, I'm going to miss this book so much...

The Roosevelt line was ace too, I nearly fell out of my chair when I read that.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:07 pm

Just when you thought you'd NEVER find a comprehensive list of comic book lesbians replete with make out photos on the Net.....

http://www.comicbooklesbians.co.uk/

Post by **Best First** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:38 am

Civil War 5 preview:

http://forum.newsarama.com/showthread.php?t=91035

i hope Spidey spanks starks shiney metal behind.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:58 am

Right, so I'm near up-to-date on Ultimate Spidey TPBs... after some disheartening dross, I'm just read Warriors... is it wrong for me to be in love with the Black Cat?

How come Nick Fury's back to being a Colonel in the Hobgoblin arc? Or is that something that happened in the second half of The Ultimates 2? I'm only as far as The Tempest in UXM, so it might be something to do with something in there... I'm confuzzled... help...

Love the way everybody refers to Gwen Stacy as "Gwen Stacy" instead of just Gwen... given events and the context they say her name in, you'd think it would be enough, but no - need to specify exactly which Gwen they're talking about.

Good stuff.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:11 pm

Brendocon wrote:is it wrong for me to be in love with the Black Cat?

There'd be something with you wrong if you weren't. Rowr.

I liked Warriors. It seemed even better when you think about Hobgoblin that was before that. Somehow I find all the stories with Osborns and goblins the weaker parts of the book.

Brendocon wrote:How come Nick Fury's back to being a Colonel in the Hobgoblin arc? Or is that something that happened in the second half of The Ultimates 2? I'm only as far as The Tempest in UXM, so it might be something to do with something in there... I'm confuzzled... help...

I think it was a mistake. I can't remember his degradation in any issue. Hobgoblin couldn't happen after The Ultimates 2 anyway, because Fury lost his arm in #10.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:23 pm

Does anyone else think the Spidey-side switch makes him look like a bit of a pansy? I mean, "Sure, I'll support this and reveal my identity and compromise everything I have... but you threw them in jail for life? That's it."

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Wed Nov 15, 2006 10:27 pm

Yeah, like I was saying on some other boards, it would've been much more convincing and cool if after Spidey got out of Stark Tower, he would've been confronted by Venom and GG, like the cover leads you to believe, instead of just Jack O Lantern and Jester.

Seeing his two arch villans on the side of the law with Tony's blessing would've been one hell of a final nail in the coffin for his switch.

Perhaps they'll go more into it in the next ASM.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Nov 16, 2006 8:12 am

Ozz wrote:I liked Warriors.

Sorry - meant to say "good stuff" there. Took me a while to get a feel for the story, due to the hefty guest cast, but it was a definite step up from Superstars.

I think it was a mistake. I can't remember his degradation in any issue.

Well, he's still a Colonel in Silver Sable... oddness.

And yeah - valid point on the spoilered stuff. Had heard that already... thought it might have been mid-arc, though... being as Ultimates stories take about a decade to come out...