I like comics, How 'bout you?

Post by **Best First** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:26 am

I don't like Deadito's Spidey stuff either, but i have to say i'm suprised at anyone having an issue with Garney.

His rendering of the prison this issue was awesome.

Plus, having met you Sprunk, how would you actually know out of fashion clothes?

Not been picking up the other spidey books, ASM seened to function well on its own so i just stuck with that one.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 7:40 am

Predabot wrote:I might. Since it appears to be in the same vein as Cap Am right now. (tie in?)

Any good? (Quality needs to be very close to Cap for me to bother with the Union lad.)

Probably not worth it then, it was good but not a patch on Cap. It is similar in style though.
You should like HoM though. I only read the main series and flicked at the others, but it's fairly interesting if not exactly the bestest thing in the world.
Sets up a few things that are playing out currently.

Marvel Zombies is awesome. You don't actually need to read the UFF issues to understand it though, as long as you're cool with starting from "In this reality it looks like everyone except Magneto is a zombie. Oh dear."

Brend - love that you love Alias.

Walking Dead has got seriously grim recently, I'm kinda being more sickened than entertained by it now.

I read all of Girls recently. It is very weird.

Agree on Bullseye being scarier than Venom or GG. I hope Frank does shows up to save Spidey and blows the Jester's head off.

Don't like Deodato. He is going to be drawing the new Suicide-Squadesque Thunderbolts with Warren Ellis writing, which is a pain for me. Great writer, meh artist.
ASM is also only Spidey book I bother with, tho I read a trade of FNSM. I don't like the Evil Uncle Ben plot at all. So sticking with just ASM.

Did anyone pick up Criminal or the Other Side last week? Easily the best two books out in the last month for me.
BKV's Dr. Strange was good as well.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Tue Oct 10, 2006 10:45 am

I did pick up BKV's Doc Strange.

And it was pretty interesting, there's definitely some potential for som wacky-cool stories there. They've got me on for another issue! ^^

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:52 am

All I picked up this week was

SPOILERS

52 : aiight, addition to the Black Marvel Family, found all the mad scientists.

Frontline : Speedball DOES feel guilty for Stamford, but the big story here is that there's a mystery man, a Pro Reg guy, who's secretly supplying Green Goblin with doses of a drug that suppress the nanites in his bloodstream. The mystery man wants him to play along until the right time, and then they're going to do something.

Annihilation : If you are not buying this, please go now. NOW!

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 5:40 pm

The Irredeemable Ant-Man was really good fun

Ant-Man is such a ****

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 6:40 pm

Even though covers aren't always an indication of what's going to happen, and it seems like logic would dictate The Punisher going after all the bad guys Iron Man's got working for him, this just doesn't look good for Peter.

Post by **Best First** » Thu Oct 12, 2006 9:28 pm

yeah, the 'New Thunderbolts' must essentially seem like a barrel full of fish to Mr F Castle Esq. musn't it?

Looks like Spidey and Frank are going to have another team up.

Blacksword · Post by **Blacksword** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:27 am

Since the last time I posted in this, I've dropped Ultimate X-Men (which under Kirkman seemed to be turning into the soap opera that is regual X-Men) and Ultimate Spidey (after that truly awful Deadpool story). I'd be interested to hear if USM is worth picking up since I haven't even bothered with solits since dropping it.

Right now I'm loving the delightful wackiness that is Nextwave, easily my favourite comic right now. Ultimate FF under Millar was excellent and I think I'll keep apace of the new stuff. Ultimates 12 was war porn, splashy but not a whole lot of development. I did find the heroes acting a little too vicious... Hulk - in character, Pietro - he's Magneto's son and began his career blowing up people so that's fine too, Wasp - well that one was just funny... and Cap... well as a soldier you kill your enemies.... but killling a guy who's just had his hands cut off and is helpless..... I don't know. In the end I'm more interested in what will happen with the denoument and Loki.

Oh and I finally finished buying up Bendis' run on Daredevil in trade form... that's the shiznit, and I think I'll pick up the current run when it goes to trade.

Post by **Best First** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 8:21 am

i thought the Deadpool arc was great fun.

having similar doubts about u x-men though, will see how the Cable arc pans out and then make a call.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 10:46 am

UX is indeed the only Kirkman-book that I've dropped because of a faltering quality. Immagine... reading Marvel Zombies.. and then ending up with UX...

I feel a little bit let down really. Has there ever been a bigger miss-placement of a creator on a top title at Marvel? Hard to recall off the top of my hat.

Everything else Ultimate right now is the shiznit tho.

(Cap killing him with his bare hands was a bit over the line tho. It's got me thinking that Ult Cap really IS a fascist. He seemed to be doing so well in Ultimate Six..)

Ey, Mob. I've started reading HoM and it really aint all that bad at all.

I certainly don't understand some of the whinings on this series when it was published, I tells ya. It's actually got a Wolverine who's not overtly murderously evil! I actually like Wolverine once more in this series! That's gotta count for something.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:05 pm

Shanti418 wrote: Annihilation : If you are not buying this, please go now. NOW!

This title is kinda loosing its luster for me though. I mean, I liked the miniseries, except the Ronan one (Siimmmmmmmmmmooooonnnn!!).

But now its like, "Hey, let's throw every cosmic character we can think of into the mix somehow." Kind of like when Transformers are just thrown in just to be shown. And I don't like the fact that characters die, and then come back again. Marvel does this ad nauseum.

I like it enough to continue buying it though. We'll see what happens.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 12:19 pm

But the thing is, considering the wave is destroying the entire universe, and no one can slow it down, AND they're captured and subjugated Galactus, doesn't it make sense to have all the characters involved? And besides, we haven't even seen Adam Warlock or Rom and the Spaceknights yet.

It definitely WAS odd, the short death of Kl-rt. But who really thought they were going to kill him off for good? His resurrection was weird, but given the dialogue in that panel, I'm sure they'll focus on it later. Plus, the idea of Ronan and Kl-rt as "The Odd Couple" in a spaceship is hillarious!

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:15 pm

Best First wrote: Plus, having met you Sprunk, how would you actually know out of fashion clothes?

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:33 pm

Shanti418 wrote:But the thing is, considering the wave is destroying the entire universe, and no one can slow it down, AND they're captured and subjugated Galactus, doesn't it make sense to have all the characters involved? And besides, we haven't even seen Adam Warlock or Rom and the Spaceknights yet.

It definitely WAS odd, the short death of Kl-rt. But who really thought they were going to kill him off for good? His resurrection was weird, but given the dialogue in that panel, I'm sure they'll focus on it later. Plus, the idea of Ronan and Kl-rt as "The Odd Couple" in a spaceship is hillarious!

Yeah, I guess it makes sense to have all these characters involved. I guess I just don't like a lot of these losers. Never liked Drax, that Red Shift guy, Stardust, Quasar. Can't stand Thanos. How many times does the guy have to get uberpowerful in the universe before somebody recognizes its not a good idea to let him live? I do, however, like the Silver Surfer, Galactus, Terrax, Firelord, and Nova.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri Oct 13, 2006 4:40 pm

Unfortunately, we really haven't seen SS or Galactus except as a plot dvice. They've made Firelord look like a bad ass, and with my impression of Nova primarily dictated by his young hothead days in early New Warriors, it's awesome to come back to him and see how he's developed.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 12:28 pm

Yaya wrote:Can't stand Thanos. How many times does the guy have to get uberpowerful in the universe before somebody recognizes its not a good idea to let him live?

I'm no big fan either, but the thing is, that not only did death first enhance him in a way similar to what Galactus does with his heralds (when she "resurrected" him, in infinite gauntlet), adding to his already impressive Mutant-Eternal intellect and physique, she also locked him out from her embrase, forevermore.

So, even if sufficient force is applied to him, to kill him, the fact that the shock can no longer kill him, he can just do his eternals thing and control his atoms, and put his atomic structure back together again.

He's damn hard to kill, that's the problem. In his own series, in the last issue, the Fallen, ex-herald of Galactus, smashed him with fricken dark-matter, annihilating an entire world, and altho he hurt Thanos for the moment, since he can't die, he just put himself together again..

It's a vicious circle.

Yaya · Post by **Yaya** » Sat Oct 14, 2006 6:15 pm

Predabot wrote:He's damn hard to kill, that's the problem. In his own series, in the last issue, the Fallen, ex-herald of Galactus, smashed him with fricken dark-matter, annihilating an entire world, and altho he hurt Thanos for the moment, since he can't die, he just put himself together again..

It's a vicious circle.

So Galactus can't kill him?

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:36 am

Best First wrote:Civel War 4... holy ****!

Ditto. Ditto ditto ditto holy ******* ditto.

Btw... does anyone ever get the feeling that MJ and Tony are having a secret affair that will be sprung on us like, fifty issues later?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:50 am

sprunkner wrote: Btw... does anyone ever get the feeling that MJ and Tony are having a secret affair that will be sprung on us like, fifty issues later?

If that were to happen, I would throw away everything I've ever owned from Marvel and never buy anything else again. I can't take that ****. No one wants to see MJ fooling around with someone, let along that confident, egotistical playboy prick Stark.
I can't tell you the amount of comedy/romance movies I've had to stop watching when it comes to the inevitable part where someone finds out the other's been cheating. I get waaay too emotionally involved in characters.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:17 pm

That would actually be in the top ten worst things ever.

Picked up font line, UX:Cable, Powers, Ultimate Power, Thunderbolts and Uncanny this week.

spoilers...

Thought Front Line was really good this week - actually felt quite sorry for poor speedball and think the examination of different sides of the arguement through the journalism angle was well done. Intrigued as to who the 'traiter; is, but worried it will either be a let down or won't work.

That said comparing 15 Atlanteans getting smacked by the Goblin to the battle of the somme is a bit wtf at best. (good poem though).

Ultimate Power was ok, will stick with it.

Cable... is an older Wolverine. Hmm. Different, but not sure its good different. bit less soap though, which is good.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:40 pm

Best First wrote:Cable... is an older Wolverine.

Really? Huh. Let us know how it pans out?

Agree on MJ thing. I really don't want anything bad (and an affair would be horrible) to happen to MJ. Not only because I like the character and think it's great having such a fun and postive relationship between husband and wife in one of the main comics, but because it'd be nice to stay awafy from 'development for Spidey = murder/death/kill/equivalent of supporting cast' for a while longer.

I like the huge cast in Annihilation. Feels more war-ish and epic. Still no spaceknights tho.

The Authority relaunches this week, I think.

Blacksword wrote: Oh and I finally finished buying up Bendis' run on Daredevil in trade form... that's the shiznit, and I think I'll pick up the current run when it goes to trade.

Coolness. Bendis' Daredevil's been one of the most consistently great comics of the last few years, yeah. The current run continues the awesome.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:36 pm

do we know who the creative team on the Authority is?

also, when is Planetary back?

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:32 pm

It's not Morrison and Ha anymore?

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:06 pm

I think it still is Grant Morrison and Gene Ha? Bimonthly?

Planetary *should* be soon, according to Ellis, but I don't really know. If the schedule for Desolation Jones (which restarts this week too) is similar, it could be inside a month. Who knows with that book.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:19 pm

Got books 2-4 of Alias in trades this weekend. Hot damn that's good stuff. Am left with a burning desire to start on Bendis' Daredevil, too. As it seems to have crossed over to an integral degree, and judging by the goodness of Alias, is probably equally of the awesome.

Also read the first trade of The Pulse. Which is also shiny and nice, though it's odd seeing Jessica drawn by somebody else. Didn't really look like her until the coat and shades came out at the end. Gets huge points for having the intelligence to say that one of Parker's colleagues wasn't as dim as the others.

Also caved and bought the next few YTLM trades. I am weak-willed.

I think I'm upto date on those now... just need to catch up issue wise, now.

First two trades of UF4 done, too. Slightly unsure what I think of it at the mo.

Amazon bodged my Ultimate Spidey order. They have the jumbo 13 issue hardback listed as a paperback on their website. Ergo I am sending it back and buying the first two trades, as I'd rather do that than have something upset the seemless flow of same-size books. I am a sad sad person.

Oddly just been havinng a convo about The Authority at the Archive. Concensus there seems to be that I'm best off leaving it at the point I got upto (third TPB of the original run). Anybody want to take a stab at changing my mind?

I <3 Planetary to bits. And I just bought #7 of NextWave on eBay, having bought and read #8 yesterday. I love that I can just miss the first half of the story without it having any effect on the enjoyability. "Monsters attack. Nextwave make them go boom."

I think I'm an Ellis groupie.

KingMob · Post by **KingMob** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:55 pm

The more people that like Nextwave, Alias and Daredevil the better the world will be!
Or something.
I know waht you mean about the art in the Pulse. I couldn't get used to it at all, it was only when Lark came on after the first storyline that the book started to feel comfortable to me.

Brendocon wrote: Oddly just been havinng a convo about The Authority at the Archive. Concensus there seems to be that I'm best off leaving it at the point I got upto (third TPB of the original run). Anybody want to take a stab at changing my mind?

Eh. The 4th trade 'completes' the original cycle, but it is somewhat of a drop in quality. The first 3 are def the highwater mark for that series. Sounded slightly odd at first to not bother with #4, but on reflection, I don't think you'd be missing anything especially good. I never bothered with anything after #4, anyway.
Except for some Kev stuff. Which got old quick.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:22 pm

i'd probably get the fourth, just to see the end of the run and some nice Art Adams stuff.

however this was at the time DC were ****ing with the book aftre 911 and it shows.

might have to start picking it up again if Morrison is on it.

i think the thing with UF4 is that its probably a bit less distinct from 616 universe - the dynamics are all pretty much the same, however there's some fun stuff in there IMO.

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 6:40 pm

Brendocon wrote:Oddly just been havinng a convo about The Authority at the Archive. Concensus there seems to be that I'm best off leaving it at the point I got upto (third TPB of the original run). Anybody want to take a stab at changing my mind?

I know I like it. Although Cliffy and Denyer are right with their criticism. The main story is nothing above average "Authority get buggered, they regroup, they return, they kick asses" formula, with some stand-out moments (I particularly found the way they dismantled the main villain hilarious, with what little I know about US political scene). The fill-in about fake Authority I like much more, especially The Colonel, and I rate that one on par with, or even above Earth Inferno. Funny thing is, if it weren't for the censorship from DC, that story wouldn't be even made.

Brendocon wrote:I think I'm an Ellis groupie.

Get Ocean.

Then maybe Global Frequency. And Two-Step is another one of my personal favourites, but I don't think it was collected in a TPB form.

I see the Ultimate FF vs. Ultimate Spidey thing is moot now, but I would have advised to get both.

FF I love, which is odd, as I was never a fan of them before. First TPB served great as an intro, two Ellis' ones I loved even more. Half of fourth is m'eh, but Millar's year was awesome. I didn't have the chance to read Carey's issues yet, hope they aren't worse.

Spidey was much more ups and downs for me. But when it was good it was great. I found that the worse stories are those in which whatever Goblin appeared.

KingMob wrote:I think it still is Grant Morrison and Gene Ha? Bimonthly?

Correct.

As far as the Planetary goes, #26 is supposed to be out on October 25th, and will be the last issue. There will be a coda #27 issue somewhere in 2007 (whenever Ellis and Cassady find some time to get around to do it), though.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:26 pm

i think i have missed some planetary then... vexing.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:11 am

Yea, I would hate an MJ and Tony thing. I just get a creepy feeling whenever I read the comics lately that they'll spring something along those lines... euh.

I hate the new Spider-Suit, except for the possibility that it will help him kick the crap out of Stark.