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Post by Hound » Sun May 14, 2006 9:54 pm

Best First wrote:come on, he tried to kill his sister in the womb, respressed an emerging alien life form, fancied Jean when she was about 17, messed Moira about, messed Amelia Voigt about, pretty much abandoned his ker-azy son, takes random leaves of absence whenever he feels like it, occassionally forces his leadership on the team and he's all shouty.

he's a nobber.
Well...when you put in like that....

All the more reason for him to be in the books. It makes him interesting!

In theory the events of M day should have made for much better set ups for stories. Less characters to focus on. I would say the opposite has happened.
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Post by Ozz » Mon May 15, 2006 9:15 am

:lol:

So true.
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I haven't read it yet but apparently in the last issue of Deadly Genesis Cyclops got pissed off with Charlie's shenaningans and kicked him out of the school. :D
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Post by Best First » Mon May 15, 2006 9:17 am

[quote="Hound
In theory the events of M day should have made for much better set ups for stories. Less characters to focus on. I would say the opposite has happened.[/quote]

I agree, oh, lets introduce some more fugly mutants and a load of sentinel drivers, and some secret x-men that never really existed.

X-men needs to be paired down to about 4 titles and get a major talent hit in the arm.
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Post by Hound » Mon May 15, 2006 4:07 pm

Best First wrote:[quote="Hound
In theory the events of M day should have made for much better set ups for stories. Less characters to focus on. I would say the opposite has happened.
X-men needs to be paired down to about 4 titles and get a major talent hit in the arm.[/quote]

Which is ironically what Joe Q did when he first took over. Out went Xforce, Xfactor, Exaclibur etc. It was far more focused and the quality was much higher...
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Post by Predabot » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:48 pm

Best First wrote:I agree, oh, lets introduce some more fugly mutants and a load of sentinel drivers, and some secret x-men that never really existed.

X-men needs to be paired down to about 4 titles and get a major talent hit in the arm.
4?! More like 2 or 3. :eek:

And since Kingmob has recommended it, and there are atleast decent reviews of it online, altho half of them seems to share my concern about the art not being quite fitting, and that the colours are not as toned down as in the other Annihilation-minis, I've decided to pick up Super-Skrull. :o

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Post by Best First » Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:29 pm

i can't be rodded with any of that stuff to be honest.

my last comics stash was pretty cool, i don't think there was a dissapointing issue in it.

Civil War 1 was the nuts. Cap is cool.
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Post by Shanti418 » Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:42 am

I'll wait for the main Annihilation series before thinking about picking it up.

So far, all I've heard is that SS is so-so, Nova is cool, Skrull's last issue was lame, and everyone's pretty ho hum on the Furman Ronin as well.
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Post by Predabot » Sat Jun 17, 2006 11:49 am

In my opinion, I feel that SS and Nova are the best of the lot so far. Some feel that SS moves a bit too slow, but it's really the book that reveals the most about Annihilus and his motives.

Also, on a very special note: Annihilus and his wives eats babies. :o Well, the wives atleast.

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Post by KingMob » Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:31 pm

Shanti418 wrote:So far, all I've heard is that SS is so-so, Nova is cool, Skrull's last issue was lame, and everyone's pretty ho hum on the Furman Ronin as well.
That description is exactly on the money for me also at the moment, except I'm not picking up Silver Surfer as the first issue was so gosh-darned boring.

The curse of the crossover meant that I've caved and actually read an issue of Thunderbolts. Man, there are some really crap characters in that book. But, stuff did happen, so yay! Unlike CW She-Hulk, which did explore stuff but was a bit of a non-event. CW Wolverine was surprisingly good. Was kind of expecting it to be utterly pointless, but the writer did a pretty good job of keeping it close the main plot and 'important' feeling whilst still making his own story about a little hairy violent guy who just wants to stab people.
Also, the bit where Wolverine's X-beeper and Avengers-beeper go off at the same time was well nice.
Frontline was a bit naff tho. The middle story was good but the first one was gloopy and the third one was in dodgy taste IMHO.

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Post by Carnivac » Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:23 pm

I'm a massive comics nerd! In fact i'm off to pick up a months worth of sweet sweet comics tomorrow. I get a heap of stuff.

I buy all marvel's ultimate books.
Plus Cap America.
Wolvie
The X-Books with brubaker and Carey
X-Factor.
Anything with the name Warren Ellis attached.
Most vertigo books
And a few of the DCU books

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Post by Carnivac » Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:28 pm

I'm in total agreement with this M Day has been badly managed. For one thing it trashed District X which was by and large the best X-Title on the shelves in my humble opinion.

O.N.E was a waste of paper, a mini that went nowhere.

Anything by Claremont at this stage is just the puts and needs to be quietly put to rest.

The only saving grace is the new creative teams on the main books and X-Factor. X-factor fills the space in my heart that the Madrox mini left there. It rocks my world with each issue.
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In theory the events of M day should have made for much better set ups for stories. Less characters to focus on. I would say the opposite has happened.
I agree, oh, lets introduce some more fugly mutants and a load of sentinel drivers, and some secret x-men that never really existed.

X-men needs to be paired down to about 4 titles and get a major talent hit in the arm.[/quote]

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Post by Predabot » Fri Jun 23, 2006 4:59 pm

You're in luck then Carnivac, he's taking atleast a year off any and all books because of health-issues. :o

I'm thinking, that in reality, do we need any more X-books than 3? NO. I don't think so. I'd love to cut it off at 2, but then we'd lose X-factor now wouldn't we? And apparently it's the bees-knees.

Uncanny now that Brubaker is FINALLY coming on to that title and cleaning it up real good, and then Astonishing with Whedons mastery of the characters.

As a side-note: Super-skrull has gotta be the biggest case of mall-placed artist on a title ever. Ol' Skrullie decapitates, flambés and jams hist fist trough the chest of his enemies in the most bad-ass ways immaginable, while being a brightly coloured cartoon... However, because of the aweseomeness that is now Super-Skrull, I'm glad I picked it up. :) He's actually becoming a character!
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Post by Best First » Thu Jun 29, 2006 8:44 pm

Woo... ok, stuff i have picked up recently:

Secret War:

Overhyped, far from Bendis's best stuff. That said the knock on in the Pulse was fun. Might have cared if the main protagonist was someone vaguely interesting. Plus, yes the art is fully painted but it doesn't serve the story that well.

Runaway's vols 4 & 5 - f'n great stuff! The art is getting better and better as well. The writing is almost Whedonesque.

Death of Superman:

meh.

JLA: World War 3

Holy ****!!! Amazing stuff. One of the tensest stories i have ever read. Total pay-off for Morrison's run. I now have all the Morrison JLA stuff now - does anyone recommend the subsequent volumes?
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Post by Professor Smooth » Mon Jul 03, 2006 2:39 am

Was World War III the same story as Our World's at War or was that another storyline?

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Professor Smooth wrote:Was World War III the same story as Our World's at War or was that another storyline?
i... don't know. Sorry chief.
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Post by Predabot » Mon Jul 03, 2006 12:39 pm

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Professor Smooth wrote:Was World War III the same story as Our World's at War or was that another storyline?
i... don't know. Sorry chief.
It was an entirely different story, Our Worlds at War was a naff crossover about a giant DC-style Galactus ripp-off. But I'm going to have to disagree with you Besters, World War III wasn't quite all it was cracked up to be, the way Aztec went out in perticular was badly executed. In my mind, the best of Morrisons JLA was Rock Of Ages. Fan-tastic stuff, :) especially the way the Atom and Green Arrow(!) takes out DarkSeid.

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Predabot wrote: But I'm going to have to disagree with you Besters
i'll try and soldier on.

will i cope?

Find out next issue.
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Post by Professor Smooth » Mon Jul 03, 2006 1:09 pm

Our World's at War wasn't any good, then? I only ask because that giant 50 page trade is available for around 20 bucks at my local bookstore.

Has anyone read that collection of the first three years of Superman comic strips? Absolutely crazy stuff! Available in 10-pound hardcover for 20 bucks!
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Post by sprunkner » Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:39 pm

I just discovered Y: The Last Man. Woooooow. I didn't like Vaughn on Ultimate X-Men, but everything else he's done seems to turn straight to gold.
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Post by Shanti418 » Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:52 pm

Predabot wrote:. In my mind, the best of Morrisons JLA was Rock Of Ages. Fan-tastic stuff, :).
I don't know, I kind of liked the "Bringin' on the Heartbreak" storyline.

Yeah, Y is what REALLY got me back into comics. I've sloshed through the Ultimate X Men stuff, and didn't think it was all that great. People LOVE Runaways, though. Bought the first Ex Machina, but it didn't really grab me.
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Post by Best First » Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:12 pm

i have a few issues of Ex M and i agree, it didn't reallt grab me either.

Y is a great cocnept but feels like it is starting to meander slightly to me to be honest. I'm still getting it though.

Runaways is the business.
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Post by KingMob » Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:10 pm

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Predabot wrote: But I'm going to have to disagree with you Besters
i'll try and soldier on.

will i cope?

Find out next issue.
:eek: Cliffhanger!

Agree on Vaughan comments.

The second Invincible hardcover comes out this week. I must haves it.

Last week I mostly bought a lot of Civil War. But also Nextwave and Daredevil, which both rule.
Oh, also got a 10 issue run of Death's Head, some old Amazing Spideys I had wanted for a while and a few odds and sods for £4 from the local market, good nick as well. Score.

I can't enthuse about Daredevil enough. I guess if you aren't following it, it's not a good time to jump on. But it's really, really ******* good. Would recommend checking out this story when it's collected. Daredevil gets sent to prison and put on the same cell block as the Kingpin....and that is only the very tease of the beautiful being that is this sexy as hell story.

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Post by Shanti418 » Tue Jul 04, 2006 8:18 pm

So how did you like the CW last week, KM? New Avengers art shoddy? X-Factor meh? Wolverine was pretty cool, I think. Even if that first sequence is a bit improbable, it was sweet.

I've heard about the DD storyline, and it DOES sound awesome, but I've never really liked DD, so I don't see why I would start now. Although I've always wanted to buy the TPB where his identity gets revealed...
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Post by KingMob » Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:22 am

Shanti418 wrote:So how did you like the CW last week, KM? New Avengers art shoddy?
Nah, but I have a soft spot for Chaykin. Falcon was cool, and I've never liked Hank Pym so him being a total prick is fine with me. Looking forward to the Cage issue.
X-Factor meh?
Oh yeahs. That art was horrific. I don't mind the colouring, but the buildings were all drawn in some basic CAD program and then cloned, and everybody was lightboxed. I've seen that mum-and-child (who are looking at the webbed up guy) in a magazine advert, and Siryn is blatantly traced from a photograph of Neve Campbell at one point. That really disappoints, esp as this title has been teetering on the edge of my drop list for a few months now.
Wolverine was pretty cool, I think.
Yeah. The artist's exagerated style messes up the comic at the bit where Wolverine clearly should have died and instead regenerates almost totally inside like 10 minutes, tho. But more interesting than I thought it was going to be, so thumbs up.

Frontline was okay. Tho the claims that the pro-registration side of things are supposed to get a fair play aren't exactly being followed through so far. Leaves a slightly bad taste. I'm just not convinced that Jenkins is a decent enough writer for this kind of thing, and I don't like his pet character.
Although I've always wanted to buy the TPB where his identity gets revealed...
It's a good story. Bendis' run on DD is pretty much high quality stuff IMHO, but the latest Brubaker stuff is the ****.

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Post by KingMob » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:02 am

People here like Pete Wisdom, right?

He's getting a MAX mini-series written by a chap who writes a lot of Doctor Who stuff:

http://www.newsarama.com/SDCC06/Marvel/ ... isdom.html
It's a MAX series, which means not so much sex and violence...well, quite a bit... okay, it's a bloodthirsty shagfest, all right? It's beery and bawdy and entirely set in Britain. And British territorial waters. I get to use a few of my favourite British Marvel characters. Black Jack Tarr and Sir Clive Reston KCBE! Nobody else got a little shiver then, did they?
I'm trying to deal with a genuine modern Britain that's not twee, but where we can still visit the mystical. So we're on a helicopter-borne military assault on Otherworld/Avalon in the first issue, automatic weapons against fairies, and in the second issue we've got something ancient and terrible in a little Wiltshire village.
It's not parochially British. If you like that hard-nosed sense of pubbish humor that the Brits in the field already have toyed with, you could do worse than give this a try.

Pete's team are entirely new characters, apart from one who's been mentioned and seen in flashbacks during the Bronze Age. (Couldn't we find a better name for my favourite comics era?) There are some X-guest stars a few issues in, including a scene with Captain Britain that I've wanted to write since I was ten. One of the team is John the Skrull, who was part of Operation British Invasion, where in the 1960s the Skrulls wanted to replace the Beatles and influence the world. He decided that anyone could do an alien invasion, that he wanted to do something more arty, and stuck around, still pretending to be John. He's starting to think he should put his relationship with Captain Boko of the Kree behind him, call Skrull Paul and maybe talk about getting the band back together.
Sold.

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Post by Best First » Mon Jul 24, 2006 10:11 am

double sold.

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Post by Shanti418 » Fri Jul 28, 2006 4:33 am

Anyone keeping up with Civil War?

I've found myself buying all the crossovers like a pig in a trough. And although clearly the Pro Regs are the bad guys and Iron Man's a dick, it's still highly enjoyable reading. I would have never picked up X Factor or Cable & Deadpool, but they were cool.

And 52's pretty cool too.


What did you think about the Cage issue, KM? It was pretty cool. Of course, Bendis has a man crush on Power Man, so it's not suprising. I even got a little sentimental there on the last page.

And DD? I was super psyched to see Punisher in the mix when I looked at the last issue. What did you think of the reveal this past week?
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Post by KingMob » Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:23 am

Shanti418 wrote:What did you think about the Cage issue, KM? It was pretty cool. Of course, Bendis has a man crush on Power Man, so it's not suprising. I even got a little sentimental there on the last page.
Oh, great issue. I am a sucker for Luke Cage and Jessica Jones like you wouldn't believe, and with Yu on art, this was a guaranteed home run for me.
Glad you enjoyed it.
And DD? I was super psyched to see Punisher in the mix when I looked at the last issue. What did you think of the reveal this past week?
I'm surprised you couldn't hear me screaming in unabashed sheer delight! :)
There is only one character I geekcrush on more than Cage and that's who Fakedevil turned out to be! I admit I was hoping for it, but didn't actually think I would get it. And the rest of the issue was the nuts.
'The Devil in Cell Block D' is hands-down my favourite comic story this year, and at the moment I don't honestly think it'll be surpassed. It had everything.
The annoucement about the writer working on a series for the character who is Fakedevil - still being circumspect about it as it does tie into CW and I think at least BF gets comics after the rest of us? - got me so geeked out happy I had to drop a short email to brubaker jsut saying how much I've enjoyed his recent work and that I was looking forward to the series. He was kind enough to send me a really cool reply, so, yeah... that was all awesome!

Oh, wait. Were you asking about the Foggy thing? Coz like, that was cool but totally subsumed for me by the other thing. :lol:

I think the only Civil War thing I'm not getting so far is Thunderbolts. Enjoying everything I am getting...tho Frontline consistently falls short. The little parable things at the end of the issues are...well, do you like them?

52 is good, yeah? Glad to hear it.

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Post by Best First » Fri Jul 28, 2006 10:29 am

i think i am going to jhave to sack my comic shop off - i have abit of a loyalty thing but they are supposed to send me my stuff oncea month and its blatnently only every 3 months - which screws me if they miss an issue.

i think its time to get a S/O down here.
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