My sister rocks the **** out!!!

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:21 pm

I just got mailed these (and the OK to share them) so...

My sister's band, 3 mp3s for the downloading thereof,

http://emvee.goldenfanjita.com/4thwall.zip

Approx 15Mb. Share. Enjoy. Band name subject to change.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:26 pm

You mean they're not WaveLength anymore?

I wondered where their website had gone!

Hope they're not the ones I downloaded from their site many years (and obviously, band names) ago.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:31 pm

Since it's EmmVee's sis, I'm going to have a gander at it.

May I ask what sort of musical direction their going into currently?

EDIT: Digging trough google I found one band with the old name, and a girl in it, but they were based in Maine...

Digging further, (using the new name) I found this site, http://www.fourthwallband.co.uk/ wich is obviously badly done, cause it's flash animation front-door wont work on a Firefox-based browser. However they are based in the UK, in Leicester of all places. Could this be it?

No... they are apparently only blokes.. and they are breaking up.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:40 pm

Well, I downloaded the ZIP, tried to extract the files, and got warning lights all over.

They're not the same as the 3 I've heard before (I can tell that from their titles), but alas, I cannot extract and listen to them.

Pissin' Poonani · Post by **Pissin' Poonani** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:47 pm

Not working for me, either.

While you're around, do you still have Kerbstone knocking about for download? That stuff's the shiznits, y'all. Or something. Biggidy-biggidy-bong in'a'area.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:49 pm

Rebis, do you have Winzip 10? The new version have a new kind of super-dense compression-method, maybe that is why you are having trouble opening it.

I recently got that version (I ussually use winrar, but I came upon a file with this format a while ago, and sadly, the current version of Winrar can't handle it..) and I can open it without any problem.

Listening to hold on now, I think Poison my eyes will be the best tho, because the title is quality.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 9:57 pm

Predabot wrote:Rebis, do you have Winzip 10? The new version have a new kind of super-dense compression-method, maybe that is why you are having trouble opening it.

I recently got that version (I ussually use winrar, but I came upon a file with this format a while ago, and sadly, the current version of Winrar can't handle it..) and I can open it without any problem.

This does seem more likely than the "EmVee didn't check his ZIP before uploading" theory.

I will now acquire Winzip 10 (and add to WinRAR's helper programs!), and then see how Ms V's music has evolved since Beast, Now I Know and Just Stop.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:23 pm

Sorry guys, wasn't paying attention

Was actually listening to the tracks with my housemate

Didn't think my Winzip was that recent, must've been updating itself. Anyway, hope you can get the files, I've been rocking out to them all day. Production is much better, too.

[edit] With regard to Wavelength, they had to change because there is already a Wavelength and there is a 4th Wall too so that will probably have to change as well. Band name suggestions in the usual topic please.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:00 pm

Have just listened to all six (and Kerbstone).

All sounds good. Can see (see?) where they've changed the shape of their music, while still keeping the same volume within the envelope. What the hell am I on about? No idea! Just lovin' the music, which is the important thing.

If they want to check band names before they try them out, I've found that www.allmusic.com is quite a good site for band names (among other things).

Oh, and I've probably said this before, but Kerbstone sends me a Prodigy/PWEI/a few other bands/8-bit coin-op conversion game vibe.

Post by **Denyer** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:54 am

Won't extract with IZArc either.

Bloody stupid of WinZip to break a fileformat but keep the extension. It's not going to drive people to their product, just create confusion.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:35 pm

errr.... they extract fine in my winzip 8.1 here at work... ?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:56 pm

Denyer wrote:Bloody stupid of WinZip to break a fileformat but keep the extension. It's not going to drive people to their product, just create confusion.

It's because the original ZIP fileformat was limited to a 32-bit filesize field, and in the ever-increasing world of making larger files smaller, it was losing out to similar compression fileformats, such as RAR, which doesn't have that limit.

WinRAR calls this new format ZIP 2.1. I might take a looksee into what the compression algorithms are, seeing as I did a final year project on that sort of thing for my degree.

There doesn't seem to have been any real improvement on compressing compressed files, though.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:56 pm

I'll do a rar version when I get home...

Post by **Denyer** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:38 pm

Rebis wrote:It's because the original ZIP fileformat was limited to a 32-bit filesize field, and in the ever-increasing world of making larger files smaller, it was losing out to similar compression fileformats, such as RAR, which doesn't have that limit.

Mmm, and extension is fair enough -- saving out non-standard stuff by default is welcome-to-Microsoft-territory, though. It's a bit more understandable when the WinRAR lot release incremental updates, because RAR is a proprietary format.

Not that there's much to choose between any of them... it's like with MP3. Tons of better compression algorithms out there, but one has become a de facto standard.

People really shouldn't have to be worrying about their archiving software producing output other people can't read, which is why this development seems scummy. Few users need 64-bit length filenames; this is a company coffers oriented default.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:15 pm

well i use .uha compression for most things i do, it might not be the quickest, but it is certainly the best compression i've come across... hardly ever use zip except when i need to gaurantee that other's will be able to open it... well, in theory it would appear anyway...

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:29 pm

Same address, just .rar

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 8:38 pm

Nicely done.

The rar-thing that is.

Post by **Denyer** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 4:36 pm

The track separation in Hold On feels a bit off, but Turn and particularly PME are decent.

Maybe lower the vocal in the first thirty seconds of PME into the mix a bit? Very very slightly, mind.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Feb 27, 2006 1:08 pm

Yeah they got the masters on DVD so all the levels can be reworked, hopefully we can tweak out stuff like that.