I had no idea people in Britain were so religious?

Post by **Best First** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:40 am

Batman.

Batman · Post by **Batman** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:45 am

And I could kick Mohammed's ass.

Jesus · Post by **Jesus** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:49 pm

So...does anyone want any...toast?

Buddha · Post by **Buddha** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:24 pm

Jesus wrote:So...does anyone want any...toast?

Just don't burn it this time, carpenter-boy.

Post by **Denyer** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:08 pm

This could be a replacement for the RPG.

Post by **Best First** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:46 pm

Buddha wrote:
Jesus wrote:So...does anyone want any...toast?
Just don't burn it this time, carpenter-boy.

don't worry, if he does, there is always more.

Buddha · Post by **Buddha** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:03 pm

Best First wrote:
Buddha wrote:
Jesus wrote:So...does anyone want any...toast?
Just don't burn it this time, carpenter-boy.
don't worry, if he does, there is always more.

That's a relief. You'd be amazed at how hard it is for that guy to whip up a simple meal. Get crucified? He doesn't bat an eye. But if you ask him to fix a bit of breakfast, prepare for the worst. Sheesh.

Muhammed · Post by **Muhammed** » Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:20 pm

Allah is praised!

Post by **Best First** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:50 am

Buddha wrote:
Best First wrote:
Buddha wrote: Just don't burn it this time, carpenter-boy.
don't worry, if he does, there is always more.
That's a relief. You'd be amazed at how hard it is for that guy to whip up a simple meal. Get crucified? He doesn't bat an eye. But if you ask him to fix a bit of breakfast, prepare for the worst. Sheesh.

i know, who want's sushi in this climate?

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 4:13 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:
sprunkner wrote:Is there any chance we will ever see the Holocaust, or the expulsion of the Palestinians, or the massive deaths of Native Americans, or the atrocities in Dharfour, Sudan, or 9/11, or the slaughter of Muslims and Jews during the Crusades, or the slaughter of Mormons in 1836 in Missouri, or the actions of Stalin and Mao against their people, as a good thing?

Wholesale genocidal slaughter is always wholesale genocidal slaughter. The more time passes, the more our shock and horror increases.
Actually sprunk, I have to pull you up on this one. Check out Numbers 31 or Isaiah 13 (there are plenty of other examples) for biblical genocidal fun. Because those who were being "put to the sword, their children's heads dashed open upon the ground and their women raped" were "sinners" it was seen by God's chosen people as a good thing. See how a little religion can distort even the most cut and dried cases? Ask anyone about Moses these days and they'll mention the 10 Commandments and all that. They tend to skip the part where he ordered his men to slaughter all the Midianite women and boys, sparing only the youngest virgin girls for...well, you get the idea. I bet there are loads of Jews (and Christians, for that matter) who would defend Moses's actions as a good thing even today.

Incidentally, I've just been reading the suras about Moses (or Musa) in the Koran. For some reason the Muslim accounts of his life leave out all the genocidal bits, and he comes across as a much nicer and more tolerant chap. Odd, that.

Ah, but here is where I plead both my Mormon and personal belief that the Bible is not always literally true.

But, having read the O.T., I agree with you. I cannot connect those things to the loving Jesus of the New Testament, though even in my weird religion, they are considered the same person. One of many reasons I'm not so sure about the whole package anymore.

Post by **Best First** » Wed Feb 08, 2006 9:59 pm

you ok dude?

Post by **Denyer** » Thu Feb 09, 2006 12:47 am

Sounds peachy.

I mean, even if the things don't tend to be true in a literal sense, stories are our most common way of attempting to share guidance -- we communicate any idea we can't easily demonstrate as analogies, and even metaphors and individual words work on the basis of comparing things to other things. They're the shortest form of stories.

Package religion exists only as marketing -- the reality is that everyone has slightly (or greatly) differing interpretations, just as everyone understands and uses each word they know in a slightly (or greatly) different way to anyone else who makes use of it.

Or without the metaphors: some things a person says or does not necessarily being 'good' doesn't make everything that person says or does of no value.

edit:

Eh, one last metaphor...

Faith isn't a house of cards. It's a soup.

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:06 pm

Best First wrote:you ok dude?

Been wavering for a few months... just not so sure about the whole religion bit anymore. I'm still staying off coffee and alcohol for the wife's sake. No offense to anyone, but this didn't seem like a sensitive environment to discuss the particulars of faith and its lack.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:26 pm

sprunkner wrote:I'm still staying off coffee and alcohol for the wife's sake.

Leave her out of this, stay off them for your own sake. You know it's better this way and you don't want to end up a terrible old drunk like Besty.

sprunkner wrote:No offense to anyone, but this didn't seem like a sensitive environment to discuss the particulars of faith and its lack.

None taken, just stay frosty dude.

Post by **Best First** » Fri Feb 10, 2006 4:40 pm

yep.

hic.