So... Scrubs?

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 12:52 pm

[SPOILERS FOR SEASON 5]

Can you even spoil a comedy show?

Well, last season Elliot started work at another hospital - and J.D got his own apartment.

Season 5 starts with the whole gang eating lunch at Sacred Heart, and J.D is temporarily living with Turk and Carla...?
So everything is like.. normal and stuff.

Oh well, I though the first three episodes were so so. But the fourth one was "oh my god it's so funny it actually hurts!"

Anyways, some dude told me that this probably is the last season of Scrubs. Does anyone know anything about this?

Post by **snarl** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:30 pm

I have always found it really funny, yet have not made sure I always watch it. just that if I see it advertised, I always do.

I saw that JD's boss bloke that he looks up to was in some gash film last w/e and keeeeefer suvverland shot him in his mind within 2 minutes of him being in it

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:39 pm

Heh

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:51 pm

Obfleur wrote:[SPOILERS FOR SEASON 5]

Can you even spoil a comedy show?

If there's an ongoing plot thread, yes.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:54 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Obfleur wrote:[SPOILERS FOR SEASON 5]

Can you even spoil a comedy show?
If there's an ongoing plot thread, yes.

But aren't most comedy shows really really really predictable?
It's not like there's "I am your father!" or Kaiser Soze stuff in Scrubs, Seinfeld, etc.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 2:59 pm

Obfleur wrote:But aren't most comedy shows really really really predictable?

Depends. And that's not really the issue - predictable or not, a spoiler's a spoiler. And some people might not want things ruined for them in advance. Half the fun of a plotline is watching it unfold without knowing what's happening.

That applies to comedy, too. Is a joke as funny if you already know the punchline?

Scrubs has spoiler potential. The season 3 episode where Ben comes back is an excellent example.

Somebody here might not have seen season 4 yet (for example, me) and not have known that Elliot left for another hospital at the end of it. (I did though being as I saw the last 4 eps of the season)

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:19 pm

But, does knowing Elliot leaves the hospital ruin any jokes?
IMO no.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:36 pm

Jokes? No.
Plot? Yes.

Being told what is going to happen is a spoiler. Not everybody wants to know what is going to happen, as it kills the drama. It's not rocket science.

"Oh, it turns out that it's actually Ben who's died. But don't worry about knowing that - it doesn't make any of the jokes any less funny."

And I'm not fussed about the Elliot leaving thing. You asked if it's possible to give spoilers for a comedy. The answer is blatantly yes.

Post by **Best First** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 3:50 pm

agreed.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 4:32 pm

Well, the Ben thing is equal to "I am your father!" IMO.

The Elliot thing, to me, is like saying "Darth Vader is gonna kill somebody".

Yes, it spoils the plot - but it's nothing big. It doesn't matter if you know it or not.

Post by **Best First** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:19 pm

Obfleur wrote:Well, the Ben thing is equal to "I am your father!" IMO.

The Elliot thing, to me, is like saying "Darth Vader is gonna kill somebody".

Yes, it spoils the plot - but it's nothing big. It doesn't matter if you know it or not.

that's not for you to judge really, is it?

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 5:36 pm

Best First wrote:
Obfleur wrote:Well, the Ben thing is equal to "I am your father!" IMO.

The Elliot thing, to me, is like saying "Darth Vader is gonna kill somebody".

Yes, it spoils the plot - but it's nothing big. It doesn't matter if you know it or not.
that's not for you to judge really, is it?

That's why I wrote "SPOILERS" in my first post.

Obfleur wrote:[SPOILERS FOR SEASON 5]

See?

Post by **Best First** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 6:57 pm

no one is saying that you didn't, they are discussing the question you posed:

Obfluer wrote:Can you even spoil a comedy show?

see?

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:00 pm

Well, I'm just saying that there's spoilers and spoilers.
To me the whole "oh lol Elliot gets a new job!!" is nothing more than reading the tv-guide. "In tonights episode Elliot gets a new job" or "Die Hard: A building is taken hostage! It's a good thing Bruce Willis, the cop, is there to save the day".
You know, small things that really doesn't matter.

What about your post here, and impys posts http://transfans.tfarchive3.com/phpBB2/ ... php?t=4696
Are they spoiling my fun?

IronHide · Post by **IronHide** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:03 pm

Im stoked about the new season.

Hopefully this isn't the last, I've heard talk of it but who knows.....

Post by **Best First** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:53 pm

Obfleur wrote:http://transfans.tfarchive3.com/phpBB2/ ... php?t=4696
Are they spoiling my fun?

er... there are no spoilers in that topic.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 8:58 pm

Best First wrote:
Obfleur wrote:http://transfans.tfarchive3.com/phpBB2/ ... php?t=4696
Are they spoiling my fun?
er... there are no spoilers in that topic.

Okey

I thought your random posts were stuff/quotes from Spaced.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 9:40 pm

Nah, Jam, Big Train, Hippies and Black Books are similar comedies

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Jan 12, 2006 10:09 pm

http://talbfij.ytmnd.com/

Let's put an end to this silly spoiler discussion, and instead hold hands and fondle each other whilst Indiana is sad.

I am right, you are british (and have ****-loads of comedy series). Just face it

Post by **Best First** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:37 pm

Obfleur wrote: I am right

No you are wrong.

Comedy's can be spoilt. This is especially true of the best comedies (such as, IMO, Spaced & Scrubs) which are about the characters as well as the laughs and therefore involve an emotiuonal investment in what happens to those characters.

Therefore undue revelations about what happens to them can rob a viewer of the pleasure of seeing this revealed on screen.

if you are only watching scrubs for the yuks then you are missing half the show.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:46 pm

I hope you stay clear of tv-guides and stuff then.

Post by **Best First** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 1:51 pm

TV guides contain spoilers? No f'n s*** Sherlock.

I think there is a clue in the name somewhere...

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 2:34 pm

As I said, I don't consider them as spoilers.
IMO you cant spoil things that are obvious.

Post by **Denyer** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:22 pm

[spoilers] In The Passion, the guy dies at the end. [/spoilers]

Post by **Best First** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:22 pm

Obfleur wrote:As I said, I don't consider them as spoilers.
IMO you cant spoil things that are obvious.

or spot them apparently.

can you spoil a comedy. yes. obvioulsy [/The end]

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:28 pm

Post by **Best First** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 6:30 pm

well argued.

if spoilers don't bother you, fine, don't expect other people to neccessarily feel the same.

or just don't ask questions and then tell people to shut up when they answer them.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 7:37 pm

Where did I say that spoilers dont bother me?

Post by **Best First** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:13 pm

you say you don't consider some things spoilers - ergo they do not bother you, this may not be true of other people who may have a more rigid definition.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:33 pm

Well spoilers do bother me, so stop putting words in my mouth.

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