Oh yeah. The new Doctor Who- New info & pics (Spoilers)

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Oh yeah. The new Doctor Who- New info & pics (Spoilers)

Post by Jetfire » Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:19 pm

Well.....I really like the new style, trainers an all (I wear a suit and trainers when I can get away with it at work :D). And I like what I hear for the new series, Sarah Jane Smith was prehaps my fav companion (Romanna being my other fav) and certainly my fav human companion, so I'm over joyed she is returning.

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Post by Jetfire » Tue Jul 26, 2005 12:22 pm

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Ex-Doctor Who companion Sarah Jane Smith will return in the new series of the sci-fi show, it was revealed as the Doctor's new costume was unveiled.
Popular 1970s character Sarah Jane, played by Elisabeth Sladen, will join new Doctor Who actor David Tennant.

However Rose, played by Billie Piper, will remain the Doctor's full-time companion throughout the new series.

The Doctor's "striking" new outfit consists of a striped suit, trenchcoat and trainers.

'Timeless and modern'

Tennant said: "I think we've come up with something distinctive that's both timeless and modern, with a bit of geek chic and of course, a dash of Time Lord!

"Most importantly Billie tells me she likes it - after all she's the one who has to see me in it for the next nine months."

Casanova star Tennant replaced Christopher Eccleston in the lead role, appearing briefly at the end of the last BBC series in June.


Sarah Jane originally appeared in Doctor Who from 1973 to 1976
Piper said she was "thrilled" to be playing companion Rose again.

"We plan to make series two even bigger and better and challenge the viewers' imaginations like never before," she said. "Wait until you get a load of the new doctor!"

The character Sarah Jane previously appeared in the series from 1973 to 1976, alongside Doctors played by Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker.

A journalist with outspoken feminist views, she was given robot dog K-9 as a goodbye present from the Doctor and appeared in spin-off pilot show K-9 and Company.

The new 13-part series will also feature Buffy the Vampire Slayer star Anthony Head and an episode will be written by comic Stephen Fry.

We can promise new thrills, new laughs, new heartbreak and some terrifying new aliens
Russell T Davies, executive producer
Penelope Wilton will return to play Harriet Jones in a Doctor Who Christmas special, as the alien Sycorax threatens the earth in an episode currently being filmed in Cardiff and London.

The Cybermen will return in the new series, and the Doctor and Rose will meet Queen Victoria and an evil race of Cat Women.

Coyote Ugly star Adam Garcia will make an appearance and further episodes will be written by Russell T Davies, Mark Gattis and Tom Macrae among others.

Davies, who remains the show's executive producer, said: "We were delighted and honoured by the first series' success, and we can promise new thrills, new laughs, new heartbreak and some terrifying new aliens."
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Post by spiderfrommars » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:35 pm

He looks sharp.

Sarah Jane's my fave companion - out of interest, does she look good for her age? (pic required!)

I'm stupidly excited about the new series. Thankfully I've still got loads of classic eps to get through. :D

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Post by Metal Vendetta » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:43 pm

Cybermen! :D :D :D

DT looks great. Glad to hear Billie's staying for the series too - I thought she was also leaving?
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Post by Brendocon » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:51 pm

He looks like a cross between Julian Casablancas and an MP.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Tue Jul 26, 2005 1:54 pm

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Glad to hear Billie's staying for the series too - I thought she was also leaving?
Originally she wasn't going to do the whole 2nd series, but now she is. Rumour has it she's getting paid more than Tennant.

Since he's staying on for more than one season (unlike Eccles) I guess it means they can write Billie a big send off at the end of the series.

Cybermen will be good... tho have the Borg stole some of their thunder?

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Post by Jetfire » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:02 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:He looks sharp.

Sarah Jane's my fave companion - out of interest, does she look good for her age? (pic required!)
She looks very good for her age.fantastic for her age in fact.

Look inthe pyramids of Mars docs on the DVD and you'll see she looks great for her age :)
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Post by Metal Vendetta » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:07 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:Cybermen will be good... tho have the Borg stole some of their thunder?
Dunno...Borg work differently to Cybermen don't they? Hive mind and all that...
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Post by Jetfire » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:21 pm

I suspose the stripping of identity and no individual thoughts, opinions etc connects the idea. The 60's Cybermen stories were far more like the Borg in that respect (Collecting people and making them Cybermen).

All the 70's stories and onwards stories had them become not much else than humaniod Daleks and ironically the Daleks start collecting humans for Dalek material in the 1980's.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:29 pm

When a Cyberman says, "We meet again doctor!" even tho, they kind of never have, does that suggest a shared concsiousness of sorts tho? *is getting into geek-mode*

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Post by Hound » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:33 pm

Those are some great pictures. I'm excited again :)
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Post by Jetfire » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:35 pm

Something like that. The controlers personnality always seems to be there somewhere regardless of how many Cybermen are destroyed.

Strangly it doesn't matter what time zone The Doctor meets the cybermen they are always equally ahead in "Relative time" as in every past encounter has occured regardless of if it's 1940's, 1960's or the far future.

Can the Cybermen time travel or is it a plot oversight taht Cybermen in the 1940's who face the 7th Doc can recall encounters in the future with the 5th Doc and the 1960's.

But 1960's cybermen can't recall the 1940's implying the Cybermen in the 1940's traveled back in time rather than being past encounters?


Incidently a good website for the old and future production information is: http://www.physics.mun.ca/~sps/tv.html
Naturally http://www.gallifreyone.com/ is still the Doctor Who website :)

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Post by spiderfrommars » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:40 pm

I love both those sites.

That 'relative' thing is just the sort of stuff that gives me a headache. In the same way that, even though the Doc does go back and forwards in time, he does spend a lot of time in our present day... as in, whenever the episode is broadcast time-wise. If that makes sense. Why would a Time Lord do this?

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Post by Jetfire » Tue Jul 26, 2005 2:53 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:. If that makes sense. Why would a Time Lord do this?
Technically the 3rd and 4th Doctors always spent time in the near future.

While the 3rd Doctor's stories were broadcast in the early 70's they set in the late 70's/early 80's and the 4th Doctor followed on from him.
I suspose bar the odd few trips to 1960's London the 1st and 2nd Doctor's were virtually never in the present unless they dropped off a companion.

I think the Doc spends so much time hear because he loves the place. Honestly. The 3rd Doc was forced into exile hear in late 20th century for several years, and for the first time since leaving Galifrey, he established a home with friends and emotional attachments hence why he returns so often.

Of course it doesn't actually match our present day. Rose was acdently returned over a year into the future and went sround 10 years in the past to meet her father. Looking closely Rose only appeared to be treveling through time for weeks or months while well over a year passed by the time she returned to in the last episode.
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Post by Guest » Tue Jul 26, 2005 10:34 pm

Jetfire wrote:Something like that. The controlers personnality always seems to be there somewhere regardless of how many Cybermen are destroyed.

Strangly it doesn't matter what time zone The Doctor meets the cybermen they are always equally ahead in "Relative time" as in every past encounter has occured regardless of if it's 1940's, 1960's or the far future.

Can the Cybermen time travel or is it a plot oversight taht Cybermen in the 1940's who face the 7th Doc can recall encounters in the future with the 5th Doc and the 1960's.

But 1960's cybermen can't recall the 1940's implying the Cybermen in the 1940's traveled back in time rather than being past encounters?
BBC's Doctor Who Cyber History page - http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/epi ... tory.shtml

And those Tennant shots really show his expressive range, eh? :D

In order of Jetfire's posting: Smuggie, Belittling and It's behind you!

Interesting the Tony Head will be in it, and that Stephen Fry will be directing his episode, given that they were Time Lords Valentine and The Minister of Chance respectively in Death Comes to Time, and that Head had also played a major role in the Excelis saga.

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Post by Metal Vendetta » Wed Jul 27, 2005 9:14 am

Rebis wrote:And those Tennant shots really show his expressive range, eh? :D

In order of Jetfire's posting: Smuggie, Belittling and It's behind you!
And Billie's range = chav, chav and chav.

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Post by Jetfire » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:23 pm

Rebis wrote: BBC's Doctor Who Cyber History page - http://www.bbc.co.uk/cult/doctorwho/epi ... tory.shtml
Thanks.


Ok a brief chronological history of the Cybermen for those who want to know for the next series. They are almost certain to be the big threat as they are pretty much joint in 2nd place with the Master as the Doctor's worst enemy:



EDIT: Made some corrections and added in story references.

The 2nd Doctor, chronology, was the first to encounter Cybermen in the 1960's, on planet 14 (referenced in Invasion)then in the Tv episodes "The invasion", who came from their home world, Mondas which was spinning out of the solar system and so were invading earth.
Though he had previously encountered their future selves several times in his own past.

Though around here (or even before) the Cybermen split into groups which didn't nessecary stay in contact with each other over the next hundreds of years.

Next the 1st (10th Planet?), 7th (Silver Nemesis) and the 6th Doc (attack of the Cybermen) encountered the Cybermen (or different groups) in the 1980's but the 6th faced Cybermen from the future as well as left overs from 2nd Doctor "The Invasion" in the 1960's.
The Cybermen invaded Telos and conqured it aound this time and that became their new homeworld after Mondas was destroyed.

In the 21st century's The 2nd Doctor encountered them several times, normally collecting and developing resources (moonbase and the Wheel in space) but anotehr body of the Cybermens go into tombs for 500 years until a past version of the 2nd Doctor (Who had not yet encountered the Cybermen in the 1960's) messed things up so they were technically trapped in their own tomb (Tomb of the Cybermen).

This adventure also caused galatic powers to unit against the Cybermen (No wonder the Doctor seemed so mysterous and manipulating in "Tomb of the Cybermen") and virtually wipe out the cybermen which edventually caused a group of Cybermen to try and destroy Vogan which is the prime source of their weakness (Gold) this virtually ended the Cybermen as a serious threat to the universe (Revenge of the Cybermen).

However, they managed to steal a time machine after failing to create their own. One set traveled back to try and save their original planet (Stopped by the 6th Doc in the 1980's "Attack of the Cybermen) and the other back a century to stop earth getting the different galactic races uniting against them (Earthshock)and ending their threat (as far as we know).
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Post by spiderfrommars » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:37 pm

Good stuff. Do we assume the different Cyber designs mean different groups/races of Cybermen? The Silver Nemesis bods have the futuristic design yet roam in the present... Er, wait a minute, didn't they all die at the end of that story anyway? Never mind.

Its time I updated my 'Dr Who episodes' thread too I think.

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Post by Jetfire » Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:54 pm

A blotch up.

Tomb of ther Cybermen is chronology one of the later cybermen stories.

I think they are ment to have stayed the same design in the "Doc Who universe" and viewers were not ment to notice the "real world" costume changes which made them more acceptable to us as a more developed realistic view of cyborgs.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:45 am

They look like they're having fun.

Whats with the dressing gown?

By the way, I know someone who is playing an Auton in the new series (or xmas ep).

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Post by Brendocon » Wed Aug 03, 2005 11:47 am

spiderfrommars wrote:Whats with the dressing gown?
Timelords need naptime too, y'know. :o
By the way, I know someone who is playing an Auton in the new series (or xmas ep).
I supposedly know Johnny Depp's body double in Charlie & the Chocolate Factory. :oops:
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Post by Legion » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:31 am

Definitely looking forward to seeing this! oh yes.

in the meantime, have fallen to the charms of the "Big Finish" series of audio adventures... anyone catch the start of the McGann run on BBC7?
It's on their streaming archive if anyone's interested.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbc7/listenagain/saturday/#evening

Also managed to get my hands on the entire Dalek Empire series recently! (very good too even though there's not a sign of the Doctor in them! :))

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Post by Best First » Thu Aug 11, 2005 11:54 am

i cannot bloody wait.

and yet i have too.

or do i?

yaroo! yaroo!
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