Live 8

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 2:42 pm

Isnt it?

sprunkner · Post by **sprunkner** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:00 pm

what?

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 4:10 pm

YAIIHAAIH WOOOOHOOO AJM STILL ALAJV.. YEHEHEAAHAAIIIHA WOOHO AJM STILL ALAJV

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:07 pm

http://www.tfarchive.com/community/show ... adid=31322

Currently watching it on TV, off and on while I look into schoolin'- they've finally got some Canadian content in, was showing mostly London concert footage earlier.

Then again, that was probably because it was roughly 7 AM here when I turned the TV on, and the London Concert was probably the only one going on at the time... you don't think of these things at that time of the day.

Bryan Adams was gooder, Simple Plan is okay...

The Canadian content is being intro'ed by Tom Green.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:15 pm

Does that mean all the fuss will be over soon and I won't have to listen to minor celebs being all 'caring' as they sip liquid gold and sleep in wads of cash?

Ozz · Post by **Ozz** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:25 pm

saysadie wrote:http://www.tfarchive.com/community/show ... adid=31322

I expressed my anger there already.

Grrr.

I think at least concerts in Rome and Berlin began roughly at the same time the one in London did.

saysadie · Post by **saysadie** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 5:39 pm

I'd totally forgotten who Bruce Cockburn was until I saw him on the TV just now.

He is the coolest old man ever.

Post by **snarl** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 6:31 pm

Dido is ****.

I've just had it on as background noise really.

Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:34 pm

I'm watching it rock now too. It's from London, and Killers are on stage, they've got some of the most obnoxious stage-sets/lights I've ever seen.

The whole thing is a good thing tho, and the cause is just. As long as they do something. I know I'm currently doing NOTHING.

Post by **snarl** » Sat Jul 02, 2005 7:36 pm

Ha, Peaches Geldoff is as thick as ****.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:43 am

Iäm just really drunk

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Predabot · Post by **Predabot** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:05 am

Ah yes. When us swedes get drunk, the good ol' swenglish pops out. How you feeling today Ob?

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 1:16 pm

Well, as you know, I was there, so I may as well give you a little review.

First of all, the queueing situation was atrocious. It was over a mile long and thousands of people were just pushing in with the police doing jack at first. This lead to me missing the first three acts (what idiot decided to put Macca, U2 and Coldplay on first?)

Once inside the bands were average for the most part, as was the atmosphere. 200,000 people in a field isn't so practical. Eventually got a vantage point probably nearer the front than the back, but there was no room to even sit, or move, so my legs got very very tired after 9+ hours.

Lucky we took food provisions with us.

That 80s footage to the 'Cars' music still has the power to silence a crowd tho. Between acts they showed us live music footage from other countries, sometimes good, sometimes not so. Oh, and we got some rather cool presenters: Ricky Gervais, Peter Kay, Brad Pitt (!), Bill Gates (!!), Kofi Anan, David Beckham. I purposely missed out Lenny Henry.

To rate the bands in Hyde Park:

U2 1/10
Not their fault of course, I wasn't inside the park when they were on. I'm sure they were good.

Coldplay 2/10
Little better, because I was inside by this time, though spent most of it legging up a hill with thousands of other fans and just catching it far off in the distance. Would've liked to see the Ashcroft appearance properly. Oh well.

Elton John 5/10
Finding a good position was still a problem, but I did see most of this. Reliable stuff, though I'm surprised he went for a couple of rockers when a couple of famous ballads would have caught the mood better. The T-Rex cover with Doherty was interesting tho.

Dido/Youssou N'Dour 5/10
A lot of people like Dido. I know this because everyone present knew the lyrics to the bland 'White Flag' and 'Thank You.' '7 Seconds' with N'Dour was nice tho.

Stereophonics 5/10
This is the second time I've had to watch the Stereos in a field when I'd rather be somewhere else. They were ok.

REM 7/10
They are old pros and did a rather good job of capturing the moment.

Ms Dynamite 5/10
She was fine, but I preferred her 'Redemption Song' cover. Most appropriate I thought.

Keane 8/10
Note perfect, good tunes. Shame they only did 2 tracks.

Travis 5/10
One of the most boring bands I can think of, Travis were crowdpleasers, but not Spidey-pleasers.

Bob Geldof 6/10
Thankfully only the one Boomtown Rats song - 'I Don't Like Mondays' is a good 'un, but the performance was a bit corny.

Annie Lennox 5/10
Another pro and was efficient enough. Surprised she got the gig tho, there's plenty of other UK acts overseas that I would have gladly watched instead (Muse, Kaiser Chiefs, Roxy Music)

UB40 4/10
We've had quite a long period of dullness by now and UB40 don't help. Of course 'Can't Help Falling in Love' goes down well, but its not even their song.

Snoop Dogg 7/10
Much much better. Good party music, livened the crowd up. (Did 'mother****er' get broadcast on the telly? Most of the acts said '[composite word including 'f*ck']' at some point)

Razorlight 5/10
Another real favourite of the crowd. I'm not sure why I don't like them much but there you go.

Madonna 8/10
'Like A Prayer' is bloody excellent. The newer stuff is not as captivating, but we got to see a bonafide megastar in action.

Snow Patrol 6/10
They only have one good song IMO, at least it was part of their set - it was a good singalong.

The Killers 9/10
'All These Things That I Have Done' was ******* excellent, the crowd loved them. So WHY only ONE song??

Joss Stone 5/10
I'm still sulking at this point. Not my bag baby. And my feet ache.

Scissor Sisters 5/10
As above, but the songs are more catchy which helps. Except the last one... they decided to debut a 'brand new song'. Not the time, not the place, guys...

Velvet Revolver 5/10
Good to see Slash do his thang, and to hear some ROCK but 3 songs (which no-one knew) was too much I thought.

Sting 6/10
Does what it says on the tin.

Mariah Carey 5/10
This was just entertaining. Inbetween diva-esque shouts to backstage of "bring me water!" and "bring me a mic stand!' she managed to plug her new single. She was booed, but I have to say she was looking fit.

Robbie Williams 6/10
The chap knows how to work a crowd. I sang along.

The Who 6/10
I'm bloody knackered by this point and not quite in the mood for The Who to drag out their songs to eternity. But, yes, they were fine.

Pink Floyd 7/10
The reunion obviously touches a lot of people, and they do play like they've never been apart. But I can't help thinking I'd rather be at home in bed watching it on the telly.

Paul McCartney 9/10
This was a well kept secret, most people thought the concert was over after Floyd. 'Helter Skelter' is a ******* excellent song, George Michael joined in for 'Drive My Car', all the other bands joined in for 'Hey Jude' and the crowd were still singing the chorus on the way home.

My scores may seem a little low but a lot of the bands weren't my cup of tea (I'm still narked about missing Coldplay) and the day was rather tiring. However I'm very glad I did go, there was a feeling of being part of something if you know what I mean.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 9:40 pm

Its amazing how one concert has put an end to world poverty, they should have thought of it 20 years ago...

Dead Head · Post by **Dead Head** » Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:09 pm

My comments in bold (from a TV perspective) ...

spiderfrommars wrote:
To rate the bands in Hyde Park:

U2 1/10
Not their fault of course, I wasn't inside the park when they were on. I'm sure they were good.
not to my taste, but a proper way to start the show. good

Coldplay 2/10
Little better, because I was inside by this time, though spent most of it legging up a hill with thousands of other fans and just catching it far off in the distance. Would've liked to see the Ashcroft appearance properly. Oh well.
Coldplay are bland, but were proficient here. decent, especially with Ashcroft

Elton John 5/10
Finding a good position was still a problem, but I did see most of this. Reliable stuff, though I'm surprised he went for a couple of rockers when a couple of famous ballads would have caught the mood better. The T-Rex cover with Doherty was interesting tho.
good on his own, but Make Doherty History

Dido/Youssou N'Dour 5/10
A lot of people like Dido. I know this because everyone present knew the lyrics to the bland 'White Flag' and 'Thank You.' '7 Seconds' with N'Dour was nice tho.
that woman cannot sing, and has a boring voice. Awful. N'Dour (Geldof's tokenism at work there) can sing, but I hate his music

Stereophonics 5/10
This is the second time I've had to watch the Stereos in a field when I'd rather be somewhere else. They were ok.
a rock band 'designed' for these massive outdoor concerts, so to speak. very average rock done quite competently (they're not missing Cable on drums)

REM 7/10
They are old pros and did a rather good job of capturing the moment.
what little I saw of them was good. Stipe looks like a retard with that paint on

Ms Dynamite 5/10
She was fine, but I preferred her 'Redemption Song' cover. Most appropriate I thought.
coming across as sanctimonious on a day like that is hard to do. More Geldof tokenism. She wasn't bad by any means, just not to my taste

Keane 8/10
Note perfect, good tunes. Shame they only did 2 tracks.
piggy and friends did fine. They're still "music for bedwetters", though. They have the melodies, but they need a bit of 'Tim The Toolman Taylor' in 'em

Travis 5/10
One of the most boring bands I can think of, Travis were crowdpleasers, but not Spidey-pleasers.
less bedwetting than Keane, but more boring. Fran Healy seems to be quite self-concious about his receeding hairline. Okay overall

Bob Geldof 6/10
Thankfully only the one Boomtown Rats song - 'I Don't Like Mondays' is a good 'un, but the performance was a bit corny.
we were never going to get 'The Great Song Of Indifference' from Sirbob Squarepants (even if it might have been more appropriate). He's allowed one I suppose. Slightly above average

Annie Lennox 5/10
Another pro and was efficient enough. Surprised she got the gig tho, there's plenty of other UK acts overseas that I would have gladly watched instead (Muse, Kaiser Chiefs, Roxy Music)
she did quite well. Roxy Music are excellent, but the London gig had enough 'old fogey' bands on the bill anyway (pink floyd, the who, and so on)

UB40 4/10
We've had quite a long period of dullness by now and UB40 don't help. Of course 'Can't Help Falling in Love' goes down well, but its not even their song.
hate them lots. A hint of Geldof tokenism, perhaps? I'd much rather see Madness bring the fun

Snoop Dogg 7/10
Much much better. Good party music, livened the crowd up. (Did 'mother****er' get broadcast on the telly? Most of the acts said '****' at some point)
on the plus side, he put more energy into the crowds than other acts. On the minus side, it was from the usual cheap easy gimmicks of calls for hand-waving and the obligatory swearing. I hate his music, but in the past have found him funny and entertaining outside of that. Still don't like his music or this performance, though

Razorlight 5/10
Another real favourite of the crowd. I'm not sure why I don't like them much but there you go.
the smug lead singer needs to be punched very hard indeed. I wasn't into them, but at least they had energy. Average, I guess

Madonna 8/10
'Like A Prayer' is bloody excellent. The newer stuff is not as captivating, but we got to see a bonafide megastar in action.
not a fan of Madonna Ciccone, although she does have some nice songs. Without the gospel choir backing, she would have fallen much flatter (that said her voice seemed fine). That number of people on the stage is also a visual bonus when impressing the onlooking crowd (gimmicky, like Snoop). As a 'spectacle' = quite good. As a singer = above average

Snow Patrol 6/10
They only have one good song IMO, at least it was part of their set - it was a good singalong.
a bit dull. Forgettable

The Killers 9/10
'All These Things That I Have Done' was ******* excellent, the crowd loved them. So WHY only ONE song??
Good, not outstanding (maybe would have been if their set was longer). As you have said, one song was too few

Joss Stone 5/10
I'm still sulking at this point. Not my bag baby. And my feet ache.
hate her so much. I didn't like this at all. Her voice does sound technically strong, and her songs aren't exactly cacophonous, but her Mariah/Whitey faux-'soul' multi-note warbling really spoils things. She's a bangwagon-jumping airhead too, which doesn't help. I'd much rather have seen Bjork (at the Tokyo gig) instead

Scissor Sisters 5/10
As above, but the songs are more catchy which helps. Except the last one... they decided to debut a 'brand new song'. Not the time, not the place, guys...
agreed. They were good before promoting The Brand New Song

Velvet Revolver 5/10
Good to see Slash do his thang, and to hear some ROCK but 3 songs (which no-one knew) was too much I thought.
had not heard these three songs, but fairly enjoyed their set, which is a good sign. They're another rawk band 'designed' for these gigs (if only the audience were a bit more familiar with the tracks). Above average

Sting 6/10
Does what it says on the tin.
not inspiring, but workmanlike. Average

Mariah Carey 5/10
This was just entertaining. Inbetween diva-esque shouts to backstage of "bring me water!" and "bring me a mic stand!' she managed to plug her new single. She was booed, but I have to say she was looking fit.
forgettable songs married to a great voice, ruined by the notorious put-on (i.e. "instant soul!") multi-note warbling affliction. See did look pretty in that dress. I hate her 'diva' attitude and her new hit-plugging antics. Average

Robbie Williams 6/10
The chap knows how to work a crowd. I sang along.
this awesomely-smug prick DOES know how to work the cheap gimmicks on the plebs. Where does he keep his magic mind-control dust? I can't believe that all it takes for an average boyband singer to 'make it big' is an overwhelmingly arrogant stage presence. 'Star power' he may have, but in my book that's no substitute for being a great singer with great songs. 'Robbie' has neither a great voice (average) nor great songs ('Angels' What? How can such a formulaic bunch of cliched tripe be hailed as a 'classic'? Unbelievable). I tip my proverbial hat to him for fooling so many casual listeners for so long. Truely awful

The Who 6/10
I'm bloody knackered by this point and not quite in the mood for The Who to drag out their songs to eternity. But, yes, they were fine.
where were John and Keith? Thank you, I'm here all night! But seriously folks, The Who were quite good. Still waiting for 'that book' from you, Pete...

Pink Floyd 7/10
The reunion obviously touches a lot of people, and they do play like they've never been apart. But I can't help thinking I'd rather be at home in bed watching it on the telly.
not a huge fan of them, but I do like some of their past output. Do they always mention Syd? Let it go already! Very good performance

Paul McCartney 9/10
This was a well kept secret, most people thought the concert was over after Floyd. 'Helter Skelter' is a ******* excellent song, George Michael joined in for 'Drive My Car', all the other bands joined in for 'Hey Jude' and the crowd were still singing the chorus on the way home.
very good. 'Helter Skelter' wasn't what I was expecting but I was nicely surprized. Michael didn't disgrace himself either. The tagged-on 'Hey Jude' didn't sit well, but did the job for a close-out repeated-refrain

Post by **Best First** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:34 am

i feel so much more aware...

I love how all these insipid celebrities who are merrily profiting off the dumbing down of culture and the populace in general then turn around and tell us all we need to be more aware.

Why not write ****ing songs about it instead of the middle of the road crap most of you pump out then you c***s?

How many people were there for the cause and how many for the free gig eh?

pfft.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:12 am

The benefits of watching from home! The backstage gossip! Plus also some info accrued from radio the day beforehand (Radio 1's news team were there at rehearsals on Friday, so "leaked" a lot of info).

spiderfrommars wrote:(what idiot decided to put Macca, U2 and Coldplay on first?)

U2, Coldplay and Elton all had gigs already scheduled for Saturday before the event was organised. Ergo it was either cancel the existing concerts or go on early then head off to their other venue.

Elton John 5/10
The T-Rex cover with Doherty was interesting tho.

When they sang together, I couldn't hear Pete, and when he sang on his own I wished I couldn't. Elton wiped the floor with him vocally, it saddens me to say.

Stereophonics 5/10
This is the second time I've had to watch the Stereos in a field when I'd rather be somewhere else. They were ok.

Was nice to hear Local Boy again. They look like twats with those jackets, shades and haircuts, though.

REM 7/10
They are old pros and did a rather good job of capturing the moment.

Fun fact: As the third song started, the BBC decided to cut away to an interview with Razorlight. It wasn't even a case of getting the live feeds mixed up, as you could clearly hear the 'Phonics playing onstage. They got back for the end of the set with absolutely no mention of the phenomena.

Travis 5/10
One of the most boring bands I can think of, Travis were crowdpleasers, but not Spidey-pleasers.

The Stayin' Alive bit was good. Better than Chris Martin croaking his way through part of Rocking All Over the World.

Snoop Dogg 7/10
Much much better. Good party music, livened the crowd up. (Did 'mother****er' get broadcast on the telly? Most of the acts said '****' at some point)

Yes, the swearing was broadcast. Not a single thing was bleeped out. I anticipate many complaints, as it was about half past six at the time. I thought the set came across as a bit chaotic... sort of lurched from one track to another as half of them required other vocalists that weren't there.

Also, Snoop comes across as having zero stage presence. He just seemed to stand still, looking really bored whilst everybody else bounced around the place. The Guardian Unlimited review of the gig makes the excellent point that all his lyrics seem to exist solely to promote him, rather than actually say anything important.

Razorlight 5/10
Another real favourite of the crowd. I'm not sure why I don't like them much but there you go.

Johnny Borrell gets right up my nose. They're an okay band with some half-decent tracks, but they've got the whole "we're fantastic" attitude, when they blatantly aren't. In The City is still a cack song.

Madonna 8/10
'Like A Prayer' is bloody excellent. The newer stuff is not as captivating, but we got to see a bonafide megastar in action.

I hate Madonna and thought that set was fantastic.

The Killers 9/10
'All These Things That I Have Done' was ******* excellent, the crowd loved them. So WHY only ONE song??

Fearne Cotton (how does she even have a job?) was interviewing them earlier in the day and they said then that they were only going to do the one track. Something about it being the only one they felt was really appropriate... dunno if they meant lyrically or tonally. I suppose it's better to do one song really well than to ruin it with things that don't capture the mood. Didn't stop Snoop. I did consider texting you with the info as an advance warning, but wasn't sure if you'd get it or not (the whole not hearing the beep / not checking phone for hours issue that's inherent in that sort of crowd)

Velvet Revolver 5/10
Good to see Slash do his thang, and to hear some ROCK but 3 songs (which no-one knew) was too much I thought.

I knew the songs.

Thought Scott Weiland came across as a prat, though. The Nazi BDSM Bus Conductor look didn't really work.

The crowd seemed utterly bemused. Well, I'm sure they would have done if the production team were capable of holding a camera angle for more than five seconds. As fab as they were, they managed to seem more out of place with the line-up than even Snoop did. A GnR set closer to the end would have been better, but I'll take what I can get...

Robbie Williams 6/10
The chap knows how to work a crowd. I sang along.

That he does. People can say what they want about him, but he knows how to get a crowd going. TV-wise, probably the closest moment to the Queen set from Live Aid (I think the atmosphere comes across better on the original footage because of it being in an enclosed space, but that's another discussion). And I still think that if his back catalogue was that of a band not fronted by an ex-member of Take That, people would be kinder about it.

Pink Floyd 7/10
The reunion obviously touches a lot of people, and they do play like they've never been apart. But I can't help thinking I'd rather be at home in bed watching it on the telly.

I was in a pub listening to a local band murder Terrorvision's "Perserverence" by this point. They did stop for the Floyd, though.

Paul McCartney 9/10
This was a well kept secret, most people thought the concert was over after Floyd. 'Helter Skelter' is a ******* excellent song, George Michael joined in for 'Drive My Car', all the other bands joined in for 'Hey Jude' and the crowd were still singing the chorus on the way home.

Again, this was one of the leaked things. Radio 1 said on the Friday that Paul and George had been rehearsing that track. Macca said on tv before the event began that he was up first as well as last, and Jo Whiley wheeled in George between Robbie and The Who and disclosed what was coming up. The BBC seemed completely oblivious to the notion of spoilers...

Post by **Best First** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:43 am

i thought Snoop Digg was the best thing on all day and i totdally disagree about stage presence.

Is the Guardian expecting him to rewrite his lyrics or something? Who else's lyrics say 'something important'? Coldplay? Keane? Razorligt? Robbie ****ing williams? Don't mke me laugh. Or do, but do it in a nice way.

What were people expecting from him exactly?

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:44 am

Brendocon wrote:I did consider texting you with the info as an advance warning, but wasn't sure if you'd get it or not (the whole not hearing the beep / not checking phone for hours issue that's inherent in that sort of crowd)

It was quite nice not knowing what was coming up I suppose. Re: phone, there was no signal, which made the whole 'text your name to this number' banners there a bit obsolete I thought.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:52 am

does anyone know if this made any difference to the G8 summit?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 9:57 am

Best First wrote:i thought Snoop Digg was the best thing on all day and i totdally disagree about stage presence.

This is what I love about this place. Differing opinions. You're wrong, though.

Shambolic and unfocussed are the terms I'd use for it. Lurched from one thing to another. Although I might just be manifesting hostility from the BBC's inept coverage of it. Here's a novel idea: Keep the camera still!

Was a refreshing change in pace, though.

What were people expecting from him exactly?

I think the point they were trying to put across was that, up to that point, most of the acts said something to try and promote the campaign (however inept or ill-judged their comments may have been), whereas the only thing Snoop seemed to be interested in promoting was Snoop. But then I've never been a huge fan of the Guardian's music coverage*, so it wouldn't surprise me if she'd never bothered listening to him before. Probably thought it was ad-libbed.

* - Covering footie with a detached disdain is one thing, covering music with that attitude is another. Saying Francis Jeffers has a great future behind him = pretty indisputable; Saying Hard-Fi are rubbish = subjective.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:03 am

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:does anyone know if this made any difference to the G8 summit?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g8/story/0,13 ... 27,00.html

"World leaders ignore the masses shocker."

BTW - The Guardians coverage also complained about all the acts banging on about the cause... ha ha ha.

More incliend to agree with the second concern - Celebrities trying to articulatet issues is often embaressing. My favourite so far:

Chris Martin "Anyone who is cynical about this is stupid"

Uh-huh, way to field critisicm big guy, very mature and constructive. In fact in your appraoch to discussion you kinda of sound a lot like... George Bush. ha ha.

Anyone who calls their kid apple is stupid you jumped up twart.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:08 am

Certain celebs seem unable to draw a line between the actual issue and the way they're trying to address it.

"Dear Mr Martin,

We are in no way cynical about the fact that people are dying. We are cynical about your attitude, motivations and often seemingly naive approach to resolving the problem.

Also, whilst your songs are musically quite pleasant, you singing voice is marginally worse than mine. If I were being strangled.

Cheers"

I think Apple's a nice name. Though I expect the next Martin sprog to have the initials I.B.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:10 am

I still felt the message was fudgy - stars got up and sort of said "go Live 8" save the erm africans or somthing, dont give money, but do give money, go to scotland but dont.. i dunno I was confused.

My mate came through door with his usuall sarcasm and said "wow is world poverty over?" - I dunno, ask Dido

As concerts go, it was pretty cool, coupled with amazing images from across the world, from what Im reading and what ive seen on the news today, Im not sure what any of it did.
Its a ******* shame tho to be honest, with a buzz in the air saturday, I felt part of somthing big, and yes I was still feeling cynical as I wasnt sure what I was part of.

Post by **Best First** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:16 am

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:
My mate came through door with his usuall sarcasm and said "wow is world poverty over?" - I dunno, ask Dido

is Dido over?

No.

****.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:27 am

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Im not sure what any of it did.

This is the problem. A lot of people can't make the connection between "world poverty needs fixing" and "let's have a big concert."

I think what it basically comes down to is that the only thing most of these people are good at is music (and not even that in some cases), so the only way they've got of getting peoples attention is by playing music.

It's the whole playing to your strengths thing.

Bob: "How do we get people to listen to us?"
Bono: "I liK 2 pl@y mus1c!!!!one"

The whole thing was basically a forum for the campaign, dressed up as a concert so that people who wouldn't normally pay attention would watch. And then complain about their supergig being ruined by politicing, apparantly.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:40 am

I was far more shocked to hear kiddies' author and Kabaala nut Madonna say **** on the BBC to be honest. Snoop Dogg, well, you expect that kind of him, whereas Mumsy Madge's swearing caught us all off guard (and I was at my no-godson's first birthday party at the time

)

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:45 am

Yeah, because Madonna's never done anything controversial at all...

My surprise over Snoop's swearing was that nobody at the Beeb thought "you know, would it be an idea to maybe put a five second delay on the feed?"

Like you say, we all know what he's like...

Post by **Best First** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:49 am

i think the complaint is more about the simplistic ineffectual manner the ploiticing came across - each artists (aprat from poor berated Mr Dee-oh-double-ja-zee) mumbling something about how imortant this was and a load of one line slogans above the stage.

If the only way we can get people to care is to simplify issues to the point they are almost meaningless then there is clearly also another issue entirely.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Mon Jul 04, 2005 11:01 am

I think only Bob put it across eloquently, and even then we saw a bit too much of him.

Most of the others should have stuck to playing music.