live8 tickets

[spiderfrommars]

I won a pair.

[Kaylee]

cool

isnt the concert free tho?

[Impactor returns 2.0]

I won a pair.

ebay!

[spiderfrommars]

Karl, the concert's free but you can only get in by winning a ticket by entering a text competition.

Re: ebay. One of my colleagues won live8 tickets on Monday and immediately put them on ebay. He got emailed loads of death threats, and people bid millions on them, so he took them down.

[Obfleur]

The money that will be donated to... whoever - where do they come from? Sponsors?

[Kaylee]

Why Geldof or people in general are so worried about people selling the tickets on ebay I can't imagine. The concert isn't raising money for charity and the artists are set to make a packet by having their sales/images boosted. That and, if I may borrow a line from snarlos, Geldoff is a **** imo.

[Obfleur]

The concert isn't raising money for charity

What the [composite word including 'f*ck'] is it about? <insert confused smiley>

[Kaylee]

To raise 'awareness' apparently and to put pressure on leaders. Cos rock stars know best yanno.

What makes me laugh is Geldoff shooing off black artists on the grounds of "we need crowd pullers!", if thats so, what the [composite word including 'f*ck'] is he doing there?

[Obfleur]

What the [composite word including 'f*ck']... is that all they're doing?

I read that the Live Aid in 1985 raised about 100 million (dont know if it's swedish currency or dollars or whatever) ?

[Kaylee]

Monopoly money

[Obfleur]

Watching 50 Cent strut around with a load of bling bling wont make me wore aware of the horrible stuff that is going on around the world.

If they are showing pictures on big-ass screens, of dead babies and stuff. Then I'm all up for it. That would make people aware.

[Brendocon]

The point of the gig is to raise awareness of people starving to death because their country has no money. Or something.

So it's only fair that people should be able to turn a grand's profit on the thing by flogging them on eBay.

I didn't win any. Spidey! Give me yours.

[Impactor returns 2.0]

Hey - perhaps, and just perhaps.

I win some tickets, I cant go, so I ebay them, and this way I was going to donate my money to charity...

I can sell whats mine can i not?

[spiderfrommars]

Brend, I thought I hadn't won as my mate was informed way back on Monday.

So maybe there's still a chance?

[Kaylee]

The point of the gig is to raise awareness of people starving to death because their country has no money. Or something.

So it's only fair that people should be able to turn a grand's profit on the thing by flogging them on eBay.

I really don't see why they shouldn't, they're hardly taking money away from a needing charity. Not even from the artists themselves and their shameless grandstanding self promotion. yick.

[Brendocon]

There's nowt illegal about selling your own property, no. It's the notion of people profiting from it which has rubbed folks up the wrong way.

I see no problem with it at all if the profits get ploughed back to charidee.

[EDIT] Nope, they're not diverting the money away from the charity. It's just the whole "making money from the promotion of the misfortune of others" bit...

[Kaylee]

[EDIT] Nope, they're not diverting the money away from the charity. It's just the whole "making money from the promotion of the misfortune of others" bit...

yeah, see thats the problem I have with the whole concert...

also being ploughed 'back' to charity, I wasn't aware any of it was going to charity to begin with?

[spiderfrommars]

This is what it's all about, allegedly:

http://www.live8live.com/

[Brendocon]

yeah, see thats the problem I have with the whole concert...

I can definitely agree with the sentiment there. A lot of the acts on the bill are going to be increasing sales by playing to a new audience... but at the same time, I think a lot of acts would find it difficult to tell Bob "sorry mate, I can't in good conscience promote this cause because I might end up making some money out of it." It's not really possible to quantify the sales increase from the gig, so you can't logistically ask the record companies to donate the profits, either.

Whereas you can quantify the amount the people flogging their tickets are earning off the back of it...

also being ploughed 'back' to charity, I wasn't aware any of it was going to charity to begin with?

I meant back as in backwards, away from the individual and back in the direction of the issue which is at the centre of the cause. Any money being generated from it should be going there, not into the pocket of cost-free scalpers...

[Kaylee]

It's a shame their 'workable plan' doesn't include a way of helping the tens of thousands being slaughtered in the Congo and Sudan really... to pick two examples out of many... bah, now I'm just getting worked up over it. It really annoys me when self-righteous knowitalls like Geldoff and Bono come up with monstrously oversimplified views of the worlds problems and then decide to go around trying to bully people into implementing solutions to said views. grrr!!

[Brendocon]

I'm trying to think of an idealist who had a clue when it came to the actual practicalities of making the difference they wanted...

And all I'm coming up with is Stalin...

[Kaylee]

yeah, see thats the problem I have with the whole concert...

I can definitely agree with the sentiment there. A lot of the acts on the bill are going to be increasing sales by playing to a new audience... but at the same time, I think a lot of acts would find it difficult to tell Bob "sorry mate, I can't in good conscience promote this cause because I might end up making some money out of it." It's not really possible to quantify the sales increase from the gig, so you can't logistically ask the record companies to donate the profits, either.

I would, but I'm an ornery cuss

Whereas you can quantify the amount the people flogging their tickets are earning off the back of it...

It's still a rotten sham tho. "We're making money off of it, but because you can't figure out how much its perfectly acceptable. By the way, you characters on ebay should be ashamed of yourselves!"

also being ploughed 'back' to charity, I wasn't aware any of it was going to charity to begin with?

I meant back as in backwards, away from the individual and back in the direction of the issue which is at the centre of the cause. Any money being generated from it should be going there, not into the pocket of cost-free scalpers...

Ah I see, that makes sense. ^_^

I still like the idea of them organising these concerts in Africa to send a message to some of the regimes there and to give some hope to the people in some of the worst areas. I'd like to see them try that one on.

EDIT-

I'm trying to think of an idealist who had a clue when it came to the actual practicalities of making the difference they wanted...

And all I'm coming up with is Stalin...

I don't really see how that justifies anything happening? They want to increase the aid to some of africa, a huge portion of which is siphoned off to support the regimes there which perpetuate the suffering of the people. They also (VERY conveniently) get to promote themselves with some brilliant PR and boost their profits for themselves and their representative labels.

Regardless of whether they are standing in a pantheon of other individuals with unworkable good intentions or not that seems pretty shameless imo. But then again I'm very much an idealist and easily saddened by this sort of affair.

[Brendocon]

I don't really see how that justifies anything happening?

Oh, I wasn't trying to use it to justify anything... I was just pondering.

Geldof, etc seem to have these wonderful notions about how the world should be... but at the same time don't have the foggiest idea about how it actually works and therefore how to effectively implement the changes they want.

[Kaylee]

I don't really see how that justifies anything happening?

Oh, I wasn't trying to use it to justify anything... I was just pondering.

Geldof, etc seem to have these wonderful notions about how the world should be... but at the same time don't have the foggiest idea about how it actually works and therefore how to effectively implement the changes they want.

Ah sorry ^_^

Certainly seems true... the bloke seems quite happy to walk around africa wearing a suit worth enough to feed the village hes in for the next decade, but can't actually connect the dots on why he has no problems in his life and they do. In the end it just seems to equate to "oh it must be my money, they just need more" and nothing about the societies they live in, the oppression at both the hands of their colonial masters and their new masters etc.

[Shanti418]

Well, it's a lot easier to throw money at a problem than to dismantle the current system of economic imperialism that the IMF and WTO stand for, IMHO.

[Best First]

Does anyone know where i can get a 'Make stupdity history' wrist band?

[Kaylee]

'Make stupdity history' wrist band?

There might be a market for those, for irony value if nothing else

[Autobloke]

It really annoys me when self-righteous knowitalls like Geldoff and Bono come up with monstrously oversimplified views of the worlds problems and then decide to go around trying to bully people into implementing solutions to said views. grrr!!

Sounds like the last act of 'Team America: World Police'.
If the show isn't actually 'for charity' and is only to raise awareness, then why not just have loads of decent media coverage instead of holding concerts I'm not going to attend anyway? I'm aware of the problem by the coverage these concerts have been having recently, so job done - don't have the shows and save the cash needed to host them.The cost of actually having these concerts must be alot - why not donate that instead?
Why doesn't Geldof just give his fortune to these needy people instead of annoying us with his simplistic complaining?
He should be a member of F.A.G.
"Thanks F.A.G."

[Jetfire]

The point of the gig is to raise awareness of people starving to death because their country has no money. Or something.

Ohhhhhhhh.

Because most of the population doesn't know that there are starving people in Africa

Sound slike low expectations. I recall netaid which was a flop.

I increasingly dislike pop stars because charity seems to coincide with improving image and record sales.

Comic releaf can rais 100 million but the people who appear on it stating "You must give everything you can" are worth a good 10-15 times that in total.

[Autobloke]

Comic releaf can rais 100 million but the people who appear on it stating "You must give everything you can" are worth a good 10-15 times that in total.

I agree with this, but then why should we expect just these people to give up their money? Even though they could easily afford it. Then again, we don't know if they do give any money to the events they appear in.
I'd say that they give up their precious time to host shows and reports, but Lenny Henry has never done any notable TV besides the charity ones, so I doubt his time is particularly precious.