XBox 360?

Post by **Kaylee** » Fri May 13, 2005 10:18 am

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4541961.stm

The specs are impressive-

CPU with three IBM PowerPC 3.2Ghz cores
ATI 500MHz graphics processor
48 billion shader operations per second
512Mb GDDR3 RAM of memory
Removable and upgradeable 20Gb hard drive
Three USB ports
Windows Media Extender built-in
Support for DVD-video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD+R, CD-DA, CD-R, WMA CD, MP3 CD, Jpeg photo CD

Mark? What say you? Thinkst thou the Sony PS3 will be more powerful?

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri May 13, 2005 10:56 am

The machine is indeed powerfull, and capable of running the Unreal 3 engine, which is deff somthing to shout about.

those 3 power PC chips have huge potential......... (notice my lil dots here)

Problem is, PS3 has the all mighty cell chip, a 10 core multi cpu set not just to make PS3 great but PC computing, it has silly power, and its a true breakthrough in graphical terms.

But where as you will see X2 this year, sorry XBOX 360, PS3 is still some time away, early next year at best.

ill update this post with a video of XBOX 360 in action in a few moments...

Post by **Kaylee** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:07 am

I've heard some fantastic things about the PS3 processor, icluding healing and error correction. Wait till I put linux on it!

>.> <.<

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:25 am

I belive thats what they have running onit so far....... a PS3 that has an OS? oh my head hurts!

then again, Ive seen some nifty PSP hacks running Lunix based systems already, that way you can get all your emulators on your PSP... all you need then is a bigger flash mem card, like one of them 2GB ones for $400...

Post by **Kaylee** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:28 am

mmmm emulationness!!!

The PSP looks awesome tho, I can't help but feel sorry for Nintendo really. It looks like they've finally lost the console war and now it looks like the PSP will kick them out of the handheld market too

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:39 am

Yep, even with DS down and running here, with PSP delayed due to unit shortages, the PSP is just amazing, its beautiful, its unfair to compare both units, but you will. where DS is fun novelty, PSP is serious powered gamming, and it has all the media options u expect of a machine now.

the XBOX 360 does do some clever XP intergration tho, heres a link for ppl to watch.

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/articles/6 ... ids_1.html

Also can i point ppl this way

http://www.edge-online.co.uk/

an EDGE viewpoint on things to come.

Dead Head · Post by **Dead Head** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:57 am

With my current collection of PlayStation1 and 2 games, I'm hoping that Sony's PS3 features full backwards compatibility.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:59 am

Karl Lynch wrote:I've heard some fantastic things about the PS3 processor, icluding healing and error correction.

Healing? Can it bring people back from the dead, too?

Because I've got this loaf of bread at home...

Post by **Kaylee** » Fri May 13, 2005 12:21 pm

You're loaf of bread was once alive? o.O

Edge article's interesting Mark. It's what we guessed MS were doing anyway, their big plan is still to be the provider of a complete media experience. Essentially ever since they ran up against the EU and East Asian legislation which was intending (and still is) to break their monopoly, the strategy became to integrate everything into one package so you ram it down people's throats.

imo in the end it will come down to a duel between Windows and Linux. Ones free, the other not. One has huge resources to throw at making easily useable software, the other must have interfaces developed from scratch.

Course the big thing against MS will always be the cost of their software and licences imho. It's the one major chink they've got, as their useability and market dominance normally serves enough to counteract their poor security and customiseability record.

It's rather ironic really, Gatesy's strategy from all those years ago back in the 70's is still the driving force in computer software- software which is easy to use and unsecure/unstable will always beat software which is secure/reliable but harder to use. I think it's a question of how far Linux can develop in terms of useability that will decide it.

On a sidenote, opensource software has for the first time overtaken proprietary software. Okay, we're normally used to Linux having to play catchup to the latest features in Windows, but Beagle just came out.

Remember all that stuff we were saying about how Longhorn would have the uber searching powers? Words in documents, tracks from albums, IM conversations, web history, people you've sent emails to, dates you organised a meeting on... Beagle does it all at lightning speed. A similar feature is also available in OSX 10.4 when it comes out.

Longhorn's version is still months away.

Maybe the tide is finally turning?

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Fri May 13, 2005 5:36 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Yep, even with DS down and running here, with PSP delayed due to unit shortages, the PSP is just amazing, its beautiful, its unfair to compare both units, but you will. where DS is fun novelty, PSP is serious powered gamming, and it has all the media options u expect of a machine now.

the XBOX 360 does do some clever XP intergration tho, heres a link for ppl to watch.

http://media.xbox360.ign.com/articles/6 ... ids_1.html

Also can i point ppl this way

http://www.edge-online.co.uk/

an EDGE viewpoint on things to come.

To quote edge on the DS, 'as realism dominates more and more, the ds, with titles like this *(kirby canvas), meteos and Electroplankton, is becoming a bastion of pure invention'

I would be inclined to agree, i cant wait to get my PSP, but there is far more DS stuff that excites me.

The new Xbox is on MTV at 8 tonight, first impressions are that the rolling demos are crap.

I think it looks very pretty (the machine) there is no way i will buy one at launch though. Im not getting stung by Microsoft again.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Fri May 13, 2005 5:52 pm

I predict that that PSP will be the first real challenge to the Gameboy line of handhelds (the decision to not allow older GB games on the DS seems incredibly stupid on Nintendo's part). However, with a library of thousands of games, it's going to be difficult for the PSP to get in. Though, thanks to pirated emulators/ROMS, most of those games can be played on the PSP... The high asking price of PSP games has certainly stopped me from buying one, though I've never been more of a casual gamer (at best). Hell, I've never even played Halo (which makes my views on games pretty much null and void).

Post by **Computron** » Fri May 13, 2005 6:19 pm

New system looks sweet. Saw a frame from in game footage of "The Godfather" and it looked fantastic.

Obviously graphics aren't gameplay etc etc.

However, that being said, it's hard to stop a juggernaut like MS, when it decides to make the uber console.

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Fri May 13, 2005 6:24 pm

Computron wrote:New system looks sweet. Saw a frame from in game footage of "The Godfather" and it looked fantastic.

Obviously graphics aren't gameplay etc etc.

However, that being said, it's hard to stop a juggernaut like MS, when it decides to make the uber console.

The ironic thing being that the 360 will probably be less powerful than the ps3 , but MS have adopted the Nintendo approach of trying to innovate to get gamers interested.

Shanti418 · Post by **Shanti418** » Fri May 13, 2005 6:39 pm

I hopefully think that X360's early jump on the market, focus on online gaming and content, and vastly improved third party support will give it the strength to beat the PS3, which clearly is going to be ahead of the X360 graphically.

Let's not forget, Xbox has more processing and better graphics then PS2, but the PS2's saturation and third party support were what gave it the win in this development cycle. I do NOT think X360 will die because it came out too early a la Dreamcast. Plus, it remains to be seen how programmer friendly the two systems are.

AND I believe MS is planning to release Halo 3 on the PS3's launch date.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE let Nintendo come up with something good. The Gamecube was a damn fine little machine, it's just that no one made games for it. Nintendo keeps on saying it's going to be revolutionary, and change the way you look at games, but they've said that before and then turned around and gave us Virtual Boys and GC-GBA connectivity.

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Fri May 13, 2005 7:07 pm

Anyone else hear that insane rumor that the Nintendo Revolution will use holograms in some capacity?

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Fri May 13, 2005 7:09 pm

the GC was a wasted machine due to Nintendo not pulling thier finger out of its arse.

the XBOX 360 has invotave ideas when it comes to gamming life as a whole. see my video link.

The PS3 is way more powerfull.

the DS is invotaive, its just the PSP is sexy... and will sell more, and then devs will make all the games for it etc... you know what I mean, im not slagging the DS, its just Sony has a slick and simple product.

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Fri May 13, 2005 11:55 pm

well i went to see my fella tonight only to find he had bought me an early birthday present...a spanking new PSP with Wipeout

Stunning...a beautiful piece of kit. So much potential.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sat May 14, 2005 12:48 am

wow you lucky man!

you see, its so sexy isnt it? so bright, so like, does everything (but a touch screen?) its so damm sexy you want to polish it!

wonderrfull

Hound · Post by **Hound** » Sat May 14, 2005 8:17 am

its a good job its wipe clean

it is stunning, but strangely reinforces my love of my DS even more... weird.

Definately needs some more killer games though (and snes emulators). Bring on E3

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sat May 14, 2005 5:25 pm

Karl Lynch wrote:The PSP looks awesome tho, I can't help but feel sorry for Nintendo really. It looks like they've finally lost the console war and now it looks like the PSP will kick them out of the handheld market too

There's only one handheld worth playing with. And it ain't no console. But it IS 'wipe-clean'.

Sorry, I'm in this weird double-entendre mood today.
I quite like the look of the rubber-keyed 48K Spectrum myself.

jboyler · Post by **jboyler** » Sun May 15, 2005 2:56 am

Hasn't it been proven repeatedly that good games are more important than powerful chips?

-J

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Sun May 15, 2005 9:41 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Mon May 16, 2005 10:06 am

jboyler wrote:Hasn't it been proven repeatedly that good games are more important than powerful chips?

-J

-No.

What is proven that good games are good,
great games are great,
Powerfull chips make more powerfull games

Great games + Powerfull chips make powerfully great games.

see?

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Mon May 16, 2005 9:02 pm

Picky. But true, I suppose.