Icecream fight in Sweden.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:05 am

Nooooope.

Post by **Denyer** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 12:11 pm

"When I first saw the advert I immideatly read it as 'Ni... + liquorice = True". How can you NOT read it like that? It's clearly a racist statement".

No, you're a racist **** because you have the word 'nigger' etched into the forefront of your brain.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:00 pm

Surely 88 has been around since 0088 and NOT 1964.

It's only racist if you think so. The rascists are the ones that think it's racist 'cos they think in those terms all the time. They only think it's now racist because of the inclusion of the word 'black'. These dumbasses need to get some kind of life.
And when I saw 'Nogger' I read it as 'Noddler'. Dyslexia: it's a bitch sometimes.

Gekigengar · Post by **Gekigengar** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:34 pm

Autobloke wrote:...And when I saw 'Nogger' I read it as 'Noddler'. Dyslexia: it's a bitch sometimes.

I too could read... it reads "Neutered!"
Dyslexia is trully a bitch.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:57 pm

its a bit close to the mark tho init?

Liqurice is black,
and you call your icecream 'nogger'

I mean come on... they are making money out of a racist word.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:08 pm

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:its a bit close to the mark tho init?

Liqurice is black,
and you call your icecream 'nogger'

I mean come on... they are making money out of a racist word.

So does Dave Chappelle, and every rap artist.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 3:33 pm

its different tho, this is essentially using shock value as its marketing angle

its like FCUK clothing.

except Noggers is clearly referring to nigger.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 5:12 pm

Nope.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 6:38 pm

Obfleur wrote: We dont even use the word nigger in sweden.

Arent you in Sweden right now?

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:08 pm

I thought the 'Nogger' name for the ice cream came first. Calling it 'black' also was probably just a bit of a mental slip by the marketing people. But then, why be bound by the politically correct crowd. They tried to ban 'Baa baa black sheep' too didn't they? C*cks.

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:20 pm

Gekigengar wrote:
Autobloke wrote:...And when I saw 'Nogger' I read it as 'Noddler'. Dyslexia: it's a bitch sometimes.
I too could read... it reads "Neutered!"
Dyslexia is trully a bitch.

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Guest · Post by **Guest** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:19 pm

Wasn't Noggin the Nog meant to be a Viking (or some other Scandinavian Celt-type)?

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:33 pm

Autobloke wrote:They tried to ban 'Baa baa black sheep' too didn't they? C*cks.

What about blackboards? what was wrong with that? it was a fecking descriptive name for what it looked like... sure.. Chalkboard is just as good a name from a techincal point of view... but seriously... was it worth the effort?
Not in my opinion... oh and do they still call Whiteboards, whiteboards?

Tired Tracks · Post by **Tired Tracks** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:44 pm

Who needs white boards when you have projection screens!?

Sounds to me like the Anti-Nogger movement is based on the insecurities of a small group of people that don't realize exactly how trivial it all is.

Now, if the logo had a whip, or a bit of cotton, or any other references such as those, they might have a case and reason to be concerned, but if something happens to be colored black it isn't a statement, its a tint! (so to speak)

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:54 pm

Im gonna call black ppl Noggers from now on, in no way am I refering to them as Niggers.

The ice cream is black, and called Noggers.

and you dont think they are using that as marketing angle?... wow... ppl really are stupid!

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:58 pm

does the word "Nogger" actually mean anything in swedish or is it just the made up name for this brand of ice cream?

Gekigengar · Post by **Gekigengar** » Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:14 pm

pm'ed ya autobloke.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 12:07 am

"so this Ice cream is like black?"

"yup"

"ok so what we gonna call it"

"the black stuff!"

"nah not enough punch"

"ok what about Nigger cream!"

"DOnt be stupid you racist bastard!"

"ok then hows about I change a letter will that be ok?"

"hmm so u mean like instead of nigger we could have say... nogger"

"yeah, that cant be racist now!"

"Yup, but its deff got punch now! - were gonna sell our ice-cream on the basis that its black and called nigger, no i mean nogger. making money out of the black stuff..."

"right then, what shall we call this new coal we have?"

"Hmm, how about coon"

"No fecking way are you mad!"

"ill change a letter... "

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:20 am

youre purposely missing the point that the Ice Cream was already around.

They had Vanilla Nogger.. they didnt call it "Mulloger"

Eline · Post by **Eline** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:47 am

Does the icecream taste nice?

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:51 am

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:
Obfleur wrote: We dont even use the word nigger in sweden.
Arent you in Sweden right now?

Yes?

I mean, the word 'nigger' isnt swedish. We have our own word for it. We translate it.

Legion wrote:does the word "Nogger" actually mean anything in swedish or is it just the made up name for this brand of ice cream?

Well, Nogger is a vanilla flavoured icecream with nougat = Nogger.
So it's just a made up word

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:Im gonna call black ppl Noggers from now on, in no way am I refering to them as Niggers.

The ice cream is black, and called Noggers.

and you dont think they are using that as marketing angle?... wow... ppl really are stupid!

If you are in no way refering to them as niggers, then I see no problem with you calling them noggers.
Words in itself are not dangerous - its HOW you use them, and who uses them.
If a guy with a swastika on his forehead calls a black person for 'nogger' - yeah... he could be using that word in a racist way.
But if I say it, or you.. well, then its not racist or 'harmful'.

And the icecream was white from the beginning, and called Nogger.
Now they just added licourice, it turned black -> they call it "nogger black".
It's not a marketing angle. In sweden the word 'nigger' isnt used.

And please dont call us/me stupid.

Eline wrote:Does the icecream taste nice?

I dont know. I dont eat icecream, candy and stuff like that.
But liquorice icecream? Sounds nasty

Post by **snarl** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 7:42 am

it does sound grim.

I think if this ice cream was released in the UK - problems.

Boot on the other foot: it's like hagen Daz meaning c*nt in Swedish really, innit? People over in Sweden would get offended by it, but not I... actually, how widely spoken is English in Sweden?

Nogger black is a bit of a thoughtless name if English is widely spoken in Sweden... I'm guessing it is to as well.

I have to admit I also did smirk when I saw the logo and name. But I am a bad man and a fool, dont copy me children.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:22 am

Nope!

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:24 am

well I can see both sides to it.

Im either stupid or a fat ladie in her 50's!!

Eline · Post by **Eline** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 10:34 am

Impactor returns 2.0 wrote:well I can see both sides to it.

Im either stupid or a fat ladie in her 50's!!

Well, since we have seen EmVee's picture, it could be either one!

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:12 pm

Let me see if I've got this right, the name of the brand is called "Nogger." So, there's probably several different flavors of Nogger. It's not the flavor itself that's called Nogger. The newest flavor, licorice, is a darker color than the original nogger.

I see nothing racist with this. Now, if Ben and Jerry's, (American Ice Cream making company) were to release something called "Ben and Jerry's Black Nogger" I could potentially see them trying to cash in on racism. As it stands, the brand, Nogger, has been around for nearly 30 years. They've released a new flavor with a name that, if pronounced and spelled incorrectly and translated into another language could sound similar to an offensive word an ocean away. I'm thinking this is really a non-issue.

Side note: What if a company really did try to sell their product by doing some really OBVIOUS racist ads?

Advertisement: The new Dodge Truck F-450! So easy to drive, even a friggin' border-jumping **** could do it!

(inevitable controversy): Booo! You're racist! BOOOOO!!!

Dodge: Yeah? So what? We just hate ****s. We'll still sell 'em the car. We won't jack up the prices if they want to buy one. We just ****in' hate 'em.

What would happen?

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 4:25 pm

SOrry, I thought that a company had just released a black ice-cream and called it nogger

Autobloke · Post by **Autobloke** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 8:36 pm

Y'know, when I read 'Ice-cream fight in Sweden' I thought this topic was about something COMPLETELY different.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:27 pm

I pictured something involving bikini clad blondes.

Anyway Im going to release a Vanilla Ice Cream here and call it "Wogger White"

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Wed Apr 20, 2005 9:38 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:"Wogger White"

egads!!

That's just as bad if not worse than Nogger!

Remeber the Gollywog scandel?

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