Invading other forums. Is there ever a good reason?

[Jetfire]

Here is one, in my humble opinion:

http://www.nazi.org/community/forum/

Intresting. Go and Invade if you got the time. Explain how Hitler was really a black Jew with an asian grandmother. Mention Israel in your screen name or sig. If trying to f##k up a message board was ever justified it's a racist one.

To make it clear for those who don't want to click or will close because they don't understand:

If trying to f##k up a message board was ever justified it's a racist one. I've posted one by Denyer rclosed the topci because he didn't like it. But anyways I've permission to redo it.

A couple of website I've visited have some disturbing things. People utterly convinced that Black people are inferior, Britian should be white as 'coloured's' mess up the race, Jews are responsible for all social problems in the west, justification for Hitler etc. I've seena few people from website invade, take the p#ss and troll those sites to hell to annoy the horrible racists.

But is it justified in your opinion?

Discuss:

[Impactor returns 2.0]

has anyone ever changed someones mind through an internet forum?

for instance, Arsenal are F.... joke

[Metal Vendetta]

Speechless. This topic alone is like American History X in a couple of pages. It's really frightening stuff. I don't know what to make of it at all.

[saysadie]

But is it justified in your opinion?

Not in mine. But then, I don't plan on doing it. I don't need to justify something to myself that I don't plan on doing. In my opinion 'taking over' would be a useless undertaking anyway.

[Jetfire]

Speechless. This topic alone is like American History X in a couple of pages. It's really frightening stuff. I don't know what to make of it at all.

Another scary one at another racist (I believe KKK) site is: http://www.transfans.net/phpBB2/posting ... te&p=42744

[Metal Vendetta]

Another scary one at another racist (I believe KKK) site is: http://www.transfans.net/phpBB2/posting ... te&p=42744

You're right, it is like the KKK here sometimes...

[Jetfire]

Another scary one at another racist (I believe KKK) site is: http://www.transfans.net/phpBB2/posting ... te&p=42744

You're right, it is like the KKK here sometimes...

.............Man I F'ed that up. I should be less quick to post and copy the right URL in future. Anyways: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthr ... ge=3&pp=10

[Kaylee]

I had to look away from that link to nazi.org, it's just so bad. So damn bad.

I don't know what to say about it.

[Metal Vendetta]

Anyways: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthr ... ge=3&pp=10

Holy bejeezusing f*ck

[Jetfire]

My sentiments exactly.

[Darth Aux]

Those sites are just wrong!

There's one line about leaving the country if you want racial diversity. Why don't these people leave if it bothers them that much?

Would they expect and accept the same greeting if they did?

I'm quite happy to share my world with everyone, shame some people can't.

You should here some of the stuff that comes out of peoples mouths on Xbox live, it gets like that kid in the thread setting up a movement in school. Makes me sick, the amount of lectures I have handed out to small minded blinkered fools, it's becoming ridiculous.

PEACE

[Impactor returns 2.0]

makes me sad to be human.

[Brendocon]

I'm bemused by the notion that you can't be white and Jewish.

[Obfleur]

Reminds me of a famous swedish quote (a racist said this on a television show) "Jag ska flytta till ett land där invandrare inte är välkomna" ("I'm gonna move to a country where they don't allow foreigners").

[Optimus Prime Rib]

Reminds me of a famous swedish quote (a racist said this on a television show) "Jag ska flytta till ett land där invandrare inte är välkomna" ("I'm gonna move to a country where they don't allow foreigners").

Now THAT is comedy

[Autobloke]

There are some sick-ass nutjobs out there. Makes some of us slating Beast Wars over G1 seem rather childish. My family travelled all over the world during the last century or so and married into several nationalities - I'm white and English, but there are so many other colours in our family tree. Dumbass racists p*** me off.

As for invading other forums, I've been tempted to sneak onto a Michael Jackson website, get settled, and then shout something that will annoy the die-hards. However, I really just can't be bothered - and besides: we still don't know if he's been a 'BAD' boy or is just perceived as 'DANGEROUS'.

If you have positive something to offer a forum, join and be useful - don't just barge in and make trouble. I'll hunt you down and roast your ass.

Sorry, just annoyed.

[Shanti418]

While we can certainly observe these other sites with utter disgust and even pop our heads in to give them a hard time, there's nothing we could really post in there to change their minds, just like someone couldn't come in here and cause us to all hate TF by saying "Optimus Prime Is A Communist Farce!!"

I'd LIKE to think that as a civilization, we are slowly but surely coming together, not apart. And I'm not talking about nation state to nation state, I'm talking about person to person. Look at the TF boards: Americans(US, Canada, Mexico, b/c we're ALL [North] Americans), Europeans, Asians, etc. With communications technology we have an increasingly better chance to understand each other on a personal basis, which changes everything. If only every American had an Iraqi as a neighbor.

On one hand, you look at our collective history of brutal slavery, genocides, imperialim/colonialism, sexism, etc., and you can see that today, things are better. But then, you can look at the Israel problem, or India/Pakistan, or the tribal wars in Africa, and you realized we have a long way to go before we stop killing each other over different colored skin and or religion.

Don't be sad to be human, Impactor: Making mistakes and learning is what being a human is all about. We ALL have the capactiy to hate. I'm sure you hate certain things or certain people. And remember: the Nazi party and Adolf Hilter were borne out of the hurt, pain, rejection, and destitution Germany was put into post WWI. Hitler just took that depression and told them that everything was alright, they were a good, strong, proud people, and everything that had gone wrong was these OTHER people's faults (namely the Jews).

And another thing, Impactor: Damn, that avatar rules.

I probably have more to say, but I'll just say it later.

[Ultimate Weapon]

For some reason the first link no longer works. Anyway what everybody's beef with Hitler anyway? What did he ever do to you? Anyway I found the site informative as regards to national socialism. Every tribe should have it's own land and be able to govern that land himself. Bascially it mainly restricts tribes from joining other groups which is a system that has been in place since the begginning of time. Only recently in the modern era has this system been done away with, called multiculturalism, or no culture.

[Metal Vendetta]

Anyway what everybody's beef with Hitler anyway? What did he ever do to you?

**** me.

Does World War II ring any bells? Holocaust? Third Reich? Waffen SS?

[Master_Fwiffo]

If I could, I would sign every one of those ****ers up for hardcore horse-porn spam.

Unfortunatly, they would probably like it.

If there's any justice in the world, they will all die horrible deaths. Preferably ones that involve a lot of drawn out pain and humiliation.

-edited in case it might be misinterpreted-

[snarl]

Anyway what everybody's beef with Hitler anyway? What did he ever do to you?

**** me.

Does World War II ring any bells? Holocaust? Third Reich? Waffen SS?

Ignore that bloke, he's an utter, utter ****.

[Best First]

For some reason the first link no longer works. Anyway what everybody's beef with Hitler anyway? What did he ever do to you? Anyway I found the site informative as regards to national socialism. Every tribe should have it's own land and be able to govern that land himself. Bascially it mainly restricts tribes from joining other groups which is a system that has been in place since the begginning of time. Only recently in the modern era has this system been done away with, called multiculturalism, or no culture.

wow, your politcial outlook is breathtaking in its compelexity and evidence of nuanced thought.

[Metal Vendetta]

wow, your politcial outlook is breathtaking in its compelexity and evidence of nuanced thought.

For those unfamiliar with sarcasm or from Betelgeuse, I think this roughly translates to "You're a complete ****wit."

Incidentally, I printed out UW's little world view above and passed it round my office. We have been laughing solidly about it for most of the afternoon, particularly "Every tribe should have it's own land and be able to govern that land himself." It doesn't really cover things like, say, cities, does it?

[Ultimate Weapon]

Anyway what everybody's beef with Hitler anyway? What did he ever do to you?

**** me.

Does World War II ring any bells? Holocaust? Third Reich? Waffen SS?

I see. Why not pick on Stalin, Mao, Hirohito, Churchill, etc. Singlely out one nationalist and ignoring the others is faulty.

[Metal Vendetta]

"You're just picking on Hitler!"


Churchill did a lot of stuff that I don't agree with. He told the army to fire on striking miners, for one thing. That's why I was outraged when he was voted the greatest Briton in that bloody poll thing - to my mind the greatest Briton should not be not responsible for killing other Britons. Stalin was another mass-murdering [composite word including 'f*ck']. Pol Pot too. The list goes on...

What the [composite word including 'f*ck'] is your point? That Hitler was OK because other people were just as bad?

[Best First]

ultimate weapon works on so many levels doesn't it?

[Stormwolf]

Wow, the posters on those forums are retards.

The G1 cartoon over comic fans somehow don't seem to be that bad anymore.

[Bouncelot]

Anyway what everybody's beef with Hitler anyway? What did he ever do to you?

**** me.

Does World War II ring any bells? Holocaust? Third Reich? Waffen SS?

I see. Why not pick on Stalin, Mao, Hirohito, Churchill, etc. Singlely out one nationalist and ignoring the others is faulty.

Let's see. Hitler's regime murdered 6 million Jews just because they were Jewish. I've seen estimates that his regime was directly responsible for about 13 million deaths in total, not counting those due to World War 2. Also, he had a tendancy to invade other countries, spout vile racist rhetoric any time he got the chance, and - oh yes - he was responsible tor the biggest war (in terms of death toll) in history.

Also, last time I checked, Stalin and Chairman Mao were the only people responsible for more deaths than Hitler. And, while those deaths are as utterly utterly wrong as those that Hitler caused, their motivation wasn't quite as repulsive as Hitler's. Stalin's purges were the result of paranoia rather than hatred, and Mao's were a reult of trying to implement a communist ideal which, if it worked, would be great. That's why Hitler gets picked on more than any other mass-murderers. Not only did he cause so many deaths, but he did so for the worst of reasons.

[Ultimate Weapon]

What the **** is your point? That Hitler was OK because other people were just as bad?

I'm saying that it is up to the interpretation of historians that have led to Hitler being coined the most evil man ever. When he really is no different than the rest. I understand the holocaust is a tragedy, but how is it any different than the Japanese in America at the time? The extermination of Jews didn't begin until 1942, after the war had started. So it is basically a war spoil just like Dresden or the Great Bengal Famine of 1943, where Churchill starved 2 million people with his scorched earth policy.

[Tired Tracks]

I'm saying that it is up to the interpretation of historians that have led to Hitler being coined the most evil man ever.

Don't you think it was probably his actions that got him that title? Not a bunch of men/women trying to frame him or anything along those lines. They looked at the facts, and thats the conclusion. He may not be the most evil man ever, as there are still men on the planet so theres a chance we will/have someone worse.

I understand the holocaust is a tragedy, but how is it any different than the Japanese in America at the time?

The Japanese were sent to camps that in ways paralleled the Jewish camps. The Japanese were wrongfully enclosed for the protection of a paranoid nation that happened to be at war with Japan. There was no intention of killing the Japanese, although their social image was damaged by the US actions. Racial tensions were still high then, and unfortunatly the nation wasn't ready to trust people that looked exactly like the people whom attacked them not long ago. Not saying it was the right action, but at least those camps weren't aimed at killing, mostly protection.

The extermination of Jews didn't begin until 1942, after the war had started. So it is basically a war spoil just like Dresden or the Great Bengal Famine of 1943, where Churchill starved 2 million people with his scorched earth policy.

Just because it didn't happen immediatly, doesn't mean it didn't happen any less.
I must say, I find it very sad how you refer to genocide as war spoil. I beleive thats the first time I've ever come across such a dehumanizing comparison.