New Starwars Trailer

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:28 am

Ok I cant do it, im just gonna jump right in - i know i shouldnt get my hopes up, but [composite word including 'f*ck'] me that looks ******* sweet - I mean seriously is it just me or was that ticking boxes?

Obi wan looked upset when he said "but you were supposed to be the chosen one" - [composite word including 'f*ck'] wow that was just cool.

**** has Lucas made a good film?

oh **** i cant wait!!!

Professor Smooth · Post by **Professor Smooth** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:11 am

I've enjoyed all the Star Wars movies the first time I saw them and expect this one will be no different.

Master_Fwiffo · Post by **Master_Fwiffo** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:44 am

Computron wrote:
Master_Fwiffo wrote:
This trailer moved me more then all 5 other SW films + all 3 LOTR films combined.
Let is never be said that you weren't one for hyperbole.

Oh bite me.

metalhead24 · Post by **metalhead24** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:55 am

Darth Aux wrote:http://www.sequentialpictures.com/movie ... sode3.html

LMAO

That's got to be the coolest thing that I've seen all week!

Post by **Best First** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 10:28 am

my only concern is that previoulsy at the end of Jedi when he repents you kind of go 'aw'...

no i will be more inclined to go 'bit late monkey boy! you killed Samuel L Jackson you dick!'.

hmm.

farking love the look of the fight in the council chamber.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 12:21 pm

Best First wrote:my only concern is that previoulsy at the end of Jedi when he repents you kind of go 'aw'...

no i will be more inclined to go 'bit late monkey boy! you killed Samuel L Jackson you dick!'.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:17 pm

problem i have this film, is its going to end with the evil empire, im gonna rush home and watch new hope etc... then wish i saw a child again, get depressed and wish there was yet even more films i could watch the luke and co. then get depressed at the fact if they do make them ill be even older and thus depressed...

im a bit depressed at the moment.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:34 pm

I saw Phantom Menace yesterday - and today I saw Attack of the clones.

As usual I have a couple of questions (Spooooiiiilers)

1. "He will bring balance to the force". What will happen when there is balance? Where the [composite word including 'f*ck'] is the unbalance?

2. We have Palpatine, who is also Mr. Evil Dark Lord.
In Phantom Menace he was with the trade federation right, building robots and what not.
In Attack of the clones, isn't he the one responsible for the Clone Army? And at the same time Count Dooku (Palpatines ally) is hanging around with the Trade Federation, who are still building robots.
The Clones and the Robots fight - which literaly means that both of Palpatines armys are fighting each other. Or did I get something wrong?
Please elaborate this for me - all the politics, federations, empires and **** is making me confused.

3. Not a question. But [composite word including 'f*ck'], some of the actors in those both movies are crap.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 1:47 pm

1. There's unbalance because there's a 'phantom menace'! Evil Jedis lurk, the Sith grows... by ROTJ Anakin brings balance to the force by killing Palpatine.

2. The Clone Army are far more powerful than the droid army. By getting control of them, Palpatine has the beginnings of his evil empire. So the attack of the clones is all one big elaborate ruse of sorts.

3. Yes.

Thats what I read from it all anyway.

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:07 pm

1. No one knows. i suspose by finally defeating the evil Sith

2.Yup both Army's fighting. I guess it's to bring the galaxy to it's knees, weaken the infulence of the Jedi on keeping the peace and enginere the circumstances for him to control the senate and thus the galaxy.

Basically Palpy is from a small, relatively uninfulential planet-Naboo. OR he has taken the Idenity of a senator from that planet.
He wants to rule the universe.
He also hates the Jedi, who appear to have the most infulence on whats goes on in the whole galaxy with a vengence, as the Sith ,I imagine, feel the Jedi screwed them thousands of years ago becasue they feared them and didn't like what they did with the force (They see Jedi as opressors).

Clearly there are people on the edge of galaxies demoracy who feel other planets are not doing things that benifit them, some have more infulence than others or are simply greedy for more power etc etc. With millions of starsystems you can't make everybody happy. And it's likely those who joined the replubic late, have less advanced or less powerful cilivilsations or are not ever flavour of the month have little or no infulence.

Palpy sows the seeds for some planets to secretly break away. Convincing them that they are getting screwed or the while democratic system is holding them down to makes others better off. He uses a Jedi's I.D to creat a clone army on a unknown planet-but that will take years.
He later grabs almost total control of a "Trade federation" by maniliputing them to invade Naboo, as it would be to their advantage economically. As senator of the planet he will make sure the rest of the galaxy doesn't hear about it mnaking it the ultimate in dodgy deals for the "Trade fed" and make them really rich.

Hear it gets confusing. Palpy appears to want Padme dead or at least a hostage so Palpy would gte powers to deal with itand be on the senate big time as a big character. The grade plan was to have the Trade fed fail as the Replic countered the invasion, but only after Palpy gets given more power in the Senate-I assume by the death of the planets leader giving him a sympathy vote and the fact that a Padme death could not be ignored offically.

But it's Padme who helps gets Palpy the power anyway as he elected. The Naboo invasion fails thanks to the Jedi and this introduces Anakin.

Around here Duku has been dealing with Palpy for some time. Dispite being a big Jedi he is disllusioned by the order's lack of action on anything and prehaps the little of what he has learned of the power of the dark side. he feels the Jedi should runt he galaxy. Palpy was engeringing Duku to be his next apprentance. The Sith has avoided detection by Jedi by only being two. Normally the apprentince would kill the master to take over but I assume Palpy was avoiding this by having a wanna by appreninance kill the apprentinance and thus leaving Palpy as the main man.

Anyways Palpy forces the events in episode 2 by trying to kill Padmem whose far to infulential and good which triggers off the search for the clones, the rogue planets who are plottingto break away or take over the senate being discovered and the Jedi being forced to use the clones to go to the inevitable war which would edventually leave the whoel Galaxy ripe for taking over as Palpy timed it so he would be given emergency powers to be a dictator rather than lead through democracy through the war and once the war was over he would be in charge of the only army left and a weak galaxy how would not be in a posistion to do anything but accept him. Any who disagree would technically be against the Republic and on the side of the Trade federation who they just spent years fighting .

Last bit of order would be to overwelem what Jedi are left after the war but shear numbers of clones or Palpy himself could easily beat any Jedi would are all likely to be scatter over various parts of the galaxy and can be picked off 1 by 1. Anakin was his bonus to all of this so Palpy laid the seeds for him to question the Jedi order constantly and edventually, keep emotional and feel Jedi orders were keeping him downa and that they don't likt him anyway. Clever guy those Sith eh?

anna · Post by **anna** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 2:33 pm

i saw it with "robots" (the new one not the one shown with incredables) and holy freaking mother************ awsome!!! may 19th i am so there (in darth vader costume of course)

Darth Aux · Post by **Darth Aux** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 3:50 pm

I think they shouldn't have used Palpatine in Ep one, I think in hind sight that Dooku would have worked better. I think the film is too strict, the idea of there only ever being 2 Dark Jedi is too restrictive.

Maul, could've been Dookus apprentice

Saving Palpy until Ep 2 would have made for a better DAH, DAH, DAAAAH!! moment and would have worked better with the Clones Vs Droids battle. Dooku manipulating the Federation from the start and Palpatine being introduced in the second film.

Obi-wan should've blown up the trade Fed station at the end of Ep 1, Anakin should've been cowering in a corner somewhere, would've shown more depth (He was a kid and that fear could've fueled his anger throughout Ep 2 and no doubt Ep3).

Qui Gon, where can I start (Liam Neeson I did not like, but that aside he should've killed Maul.), then Dooku could've killed Qui Gon, Master kills apprentice has a much better edge to it. Obi-Wan would feel his masters death but as he's caught up in the heat of a space battle, would not know of Dooku's presence.

The death of Qui-Gon could've made for a nice bitter sweet moment as Obi takes out the Federation battle station it cuts back to Qui-Gon's demise.

Anyway enough grumbling and what if's (What if Lucas hadn't lost his talent for the 1st 2 films, Ep 1 especially).

I have to admit I am liking the look of this next installment. Anakin looks Dark, worried about the Wookies though. Just worried they've been put in because the fans want them, not because they fit the story.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:00 pm

Another thing that constantly fills my mind while watching the new movies is: Where the hell does everyone/everything come from?
The technology in the new movies seems way more advanced than the tech in the old ones.
I mean, there's like a hundred different kinds of flying **** in every scene in the new movies. And **** that walks, talks and what have you.

Is it that the Empire just wipes out everything in Episode III, thus explaining why there isnt 23988 different flying crafts in the old movies?

Darth Aux · Post by **Darth Aux** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 4:12 pm

Obfleur wrote: Is it that the Empire just wipes out everything in Episode III, thus explaining why there isnt 23988 different flying crafts in the old movies?

I think that's the cop out Lucas was aiming for, the Jedi looked for order through peace whilst the Sith would force order through opression. I wouldn't mind but everything looks too high tech.

I did once see on film 98 or 99 (when ever it was) a clip of the production of Ep 1 and there was a huge mock up of a star fighter in the background. It looked great, cool and retro, like it could've pre dated the X-Wing and co. Never saw anything anything like it in the film, must've been scrapped.

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:05 pm

Obfleur wrote:Another thing that constantly fills my mind while watching the new movies is: Where the hell does everyone/everything come from?
The technology in the new movies seems way more advanced than the tech in the old ones.
I mean, there's like a hundred different kinds of flying **** in every scene in the new movies. And **** that walks, talks and what have you.

Is it that the Empire just wipes out everything in Episode III, thus explaining why there isnt 23988 different flying crafts in the old movies?

Well in the original films we tended only to visit worlds that were not technically very advanced and there appears to be only one world with a huge amount of flying cars. In a galaxy of milliosn there are bound to be hugely varing levels of tech developement. Also years and years of war would badly reduce resources meaning the flashy flying pods would no longer be practicle without a military use.

Darth Aux · Post by **Darth Aux** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:17 pm

But even the military look to advanced in the prequels, it seems unlikely the Empire would fall victim to this also.

That reminds me, where the **** did R2-D2 get those frikiin' boosters from??

Post by **Kaylee** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:20 pm

Lucas has you all roped in, I see ^_~

Although I agree the film probably is brilliant... at the moment...

About a week before general release, however, Lucas will suddenly sit bolt upright in bed at 2:00AM and pick up his phone-

"Book me an editting suite, there's something urgent to do in the movie!!"

Then it will begin...

Chewie will be replaced by a badger
Lucas will cameo in the film. As every single extra. Wearing a hawaiian shirt.
The Emperor will be replaced by Miss Piggy
Inter-stellar transport will no longer be used. Instead characters will merely wander off shot to symbolise travel.
Obi-Wan will have a new 20 minute song and dance number.
All lines must be punctuated by the actor saying "Word."

Then aallll will be well.... [/list]

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 6:40 pm

Darth Aux wrote:But even the military look to advanced in the prequels, it seems unlikely the Empire would fall victim to this also.

That reminds me, where the **** did R2-D2 get those frikiin' boosters from??

He (it?) always had them, just they broke and nobody got around to repairing them.

Look at WW 2. For years europe was wasted. imagine if the whle world was involved. Then rations, resource or time would simply never be available, everything would be a patch job and brand spanking new cars, equpiment etc would unlikely be in production for comercial reasons.

Darth Aux · Post by **Darth Aux** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 7:00 pm

Sure, it's not the civilian stuff I'm talking about though.

After WW2 Britain didn't down grade though, it stayed at the same tech level for a while granted, but inventors and the like carried on and progress continued. The Empire takes a step back in some ways.

I'm sorry but I can't accept it as far as the Empire is concerned, they built 2 (Well 1.75) Death Stars, Vaders ship all those tie fighters. Around 17 years passes between III & IV. I think the World had progressed quite a lot by 1962, especially the military.

I just think that Lucas has been lazy, to worried about making everything look good (Which tbh he often fails to do). A full hearted job would have seen him worrying about the tech problem a lot more.

Master_Fwiffo · Post by **Master_Fwiffo** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 8:52 pm

Karl Lynch wrote:Lucas will cameo in the film. As every single extra. Wearing a hawaiian shirt.

Actually rumor has it Lucas *will* cameo in the film, even though he didn't really want to. He will have a one-second shot as a distinguished gentlemen in an auditorium, that will be having a dance number (Actually, more like an Opera or ballet. But I wanted to rile you all up)

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Sun Mar 13, 2005 11:13 pm

Darth Aux wrote:
I'm sorry but I can't accept it as far as the Empire is concerned, they built 2 (Well 1.75) Death Stars, Vaders ship all those tie fighters. Around 17 years passes between III & IV. I think the World had progressed quite a lot by 1962, especially the military.

Indeed. Thats why we get the death star.

But look at the Romans. A tech advanced race compared to the rest of the world. But when the barbarians invaded and Rome was destroyed the whole world went backwards to the dark ages.

But rememebr this point. There isn't a single 'normal' fed planet visited in the original films. Hoth, endor were all tech low -places anyway.

Look at the cloud planet Bespin. That has loads of flying stuff in the background.

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:14 am

Obfleur wrote: 1. "He will bring balance to the force". What will happen when there is balance? Where the **** is the unbalance?

Surely, the imbalance is that there are a tonne of Light Side Jedi and only two Dark Side Sith? Am I the only only one whose thought this way? The imbalance is that there is too much good, and to have 'balance to the force' the Dark side must equal the Light side surely?
Anakin's destiny has always been to wipe out the Light-siders... and i think Palatine realised this. Is it a coincidence that after the purging we're gonna to be seeing in ep3 there's two dark side and two light side left? (not counting the twins of course, as they're not jedi at this point, unless we're going to be treated to some in womb jedi tricks...

my twopence...

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 6:23 pm

Legion wrote:
Obfleur wrote: 1. "He will bring balance to the force". What will happen when there is balance? Where the **** is the unbalance?
Surely, the imbalance is that there are a tonne of Light Side Jedi and only two Dark Side Sith? Am I the only only one whose thought this way? The imbalance is that there is too much good, and to have 'balance to the force' the Dark side must equal the Light side surely?
Anakin's destiny has always been to wipe out the Light-siders... and i think Palatine realised this. Is it a coincidence that after the purging we're gonna to be seeing in ep3 there's two dark side and two light side left? (not counting the twins of course, as they're not jedi at this point, unless we're going to be treated to some in womb jedi tricks...

my twopence...

I thought I was the only one who saw it that way. Glad to know I was wrong.

Jetfire · Post by **Jetfire** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 7:22 pm

Legion wrote:
Obfleur wrote: 1. "He will bring balance to the force". What will happen when there is balance? Where the **** is the unbalance?
Surely, the imbalance is that there are a tonne of Light Side Jedi and only two Dark Side Sith? Am I the only only one whose thought this way? The imbalance is that there is too much good, and to have 'balance to the force' the Dark side must equal the Light side surely?

my twopence...

It brings balance. It doesn't mean that the two sides will be equal but balanced. That might mean no dark side users and using the dark side unbalances the power of the force

Darth Aux · Post by **Darth Aux** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:51 pm

Aren't there supposed to be very basic ideas for three films to follow from where Return of the Jedi left off?

Anyone know anything about these?

I heard Luke is supposed to turn to the Darkside, clones the Emperor and it's actually Han and Leias children that bring balance to the Galaxy.

Any truth in this?

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:01 pm

Darth Aux wrote:Aren't there supposed to be very basic ideas for three films to follow from where Return of the Jedi left off?

Anyone know anything about these?

I heard Luke is supposed to turn to the Darkside, clones the Emperor and it's actually Han and Leias children that bring balance to the Galaxy.

Any truth in this?

Well, that's pretty much what kinda happens in the "Dark Empire" series of graphic novels, which, if i'm correct about, were the first officially sanctioned comic book material of recent (last ten/fifteen years?)...
Palatine has been keeping clones of himself, one of them comes to power after Return of the Jedi, Luke gives himself up to the Darkside for a while but is turned back by Leia (and the unborn twins(!))...

Anyone else hear that rumour that NDA's had been signed by Lucasarts staff regarding eps 7,8 & 9? Despite the offical word being "no more films" after this one?

i guess we'll have to wait and see... not too much longer i hope otherwise it'll feature Han Solo in a zimmerframe...

Pissin' Poonani · Post by **Pissin' Poonani** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:20 pm

Not sure if this has been posted, but it's basically the plot of 'Revenge of the Sith' laid out with pictures from the film (so, spoiler heavy). The 'film analysts' comments under each picture are wonderfully insightful, capturing all the subtle nuances and hidden layers of what may be the best chapter in the Star Wars saga.

http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/fil ... ilers.html

jboyler · Post by **jboyler** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 3:36 pm

The moment that sold me was Obi-Wan's "You were the chosen one!"

As for the issue of balance with the Force, it seems to me that the Jedi in these movies are stupidly arrogant. If we have hundreds of Light-side Jedi and only two Dark Side Jedi, what kind of balance is that?

The fact is that Anakin does indeed bring balance, by wiping out the Jedi until each side only has two - Obiwan and Yoda on one, and Papaltine and Darth Vader on the other. Now *that* is balanced.

I'm sorry but I can't accept it as far as the Empire is concerned, they built 2 (Well 1.75) Death Stars, Vaders ship all those tie fighters. Around 17 years passes between III & IV. I think the World had progressed quite a lot by 1962, especially the military.

I think that's the whole point. They're trying to show how wonderful the world was in the Republic, when everything was shiny and new. Because the Evil Empire is... well... the Evil Empire, everything has fallen apart and the quality of life in the universe as a whole has gone totally downhill.

Check out North Korea: After the Korean War the Northern economy and standard of living surpassed the South. But because the North was run by evil dictators, trade was almost nonexistent and innovation was completely stifled so after a decade or so the South overtook the North. And now look where North Korea has ended up.

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 4:22 pm

In the Dark Empire comics, Luke falls to the dark side when he too stupidly trys to bring 'balance' that being where you master both sides of the force. very dangerous, but when u have done that your supposedly gonna be like some narley demi-god.

I think in Akanis case he would have become a total Jedi master Ninja, killed of the dark side, but understood the worth it still holds. to defeat your enemy, you must understand your enemy etc...

jboyler · Post by **jboyler** » Tue Mar 15, 2005 5:54 pm

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