No Booze for 2 weeks.

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Post by Denyer » Tue Mar 08, 2005 11:46 pm

IronHide wrote:I mean if you're at a bar with friends, you're supposed to have a beer, that's why you go to a bar. If you didn't plan on drinking than you should've gone to a restaurant or cafe.
Or you could just be avoiding being an arse, and go where your friends want to gather. Dunno about you, but I don't feel under pressure to drink alcohol in bars if I don't feel like it...

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Post by IronHide » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:03 am

Dylan wrote:I applaud pretty much everything that helps you in dealing with issues.
(As long as you're not hurting yourself too much or anyone else etc etc).
It's not like drinking alcohol is the healthiest thing you can do for your body. Personally, I think that drinking is prolly not the best way to deal with whatever issues you have. Cause if you drink every time you're involved in some troublesome situation, then it becomes a habit to drink. Not the best approach, cause lets face it, if you're having a s*** day, one beer isn't gonna cut it.
Dylan wrote: Perhaps my experiences or views on things are just different from other people's - if I go to a pub or restaurant or cafe, it's because I want to talk to people, not to drink alcohol. But we don't have real "pubs" or "bars" in the Netherlands, we have cafe's, but maybe those are close enough. ("A place to meet people and drink beverages")).
But you're grouping a bar and a cafe into the same category, granted they both serve beverages, but what kind of beverages is a different matter. If you want alcohol, you go to a bar. If you want something else, you go to a cafe, restaurant, etc.
Denyer wrote: Or you could just be avoiding being an arse, and go where your friends want to gather. Dunno about you, but I don't feel under pressure to drink alcohol in bars if I don't feel like it...
Nor do I. What I'm saying is that when you want to go drink and you're with your friends, the typical response isn't "Hey, I wanna go get drinks, let's head down to the local coffee house."

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Post by Redstreak » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:07 am

Best First wrote:Can i do it? eh?
Well my friend, I am amid a similar stretch. Got about 9 days left or so. Of course I don't do this by choice; antibiotics and alcohol don't interact too well. But still, I think you can do it too.
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Post by Denyer » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:13 am

IronHide wrote:But you're grouping a bar and a cafe into the same category
Yes, because mainland Europe tends not to have the distinction the US does.

For instance, one of the nicest things about the bars we visited in Poland is that most of them will make you a cup of tea if you ask. And we got absinthe in a cafe in the Czech Republic.

The US is odd-one-out as far as drinking ages and cultures go.

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Post by bobaprime85 » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:16 am

Denyer wrote: The US is odd-one-out as far as drinking ages and cultures go.
Ah yes.... I live in one of the few countries where one can get married, drive a car, smoke, and kill people before he can go have a beer with some friends.

Genius. :roll:

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Post by Redstreak » Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:07 am

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Denyer wrote: The US is odd-one-out as far as drinking ages and cultures go.
Ah yes.... I live in one of the few countries where one can get married, drive a car, smoke, and kill people before he can go have a beer with some friends.

Genius. :roll:
Yeah I've always found the irony quite thick; you can die for your country before you can have a drink. Chris Rock said something pretty solid on the subject at the end of Head of State.

Our culture is of course absurdly backward with regard to our own bodies and sexuality, but that's a rant for another time and topic.

I really do hate it here. We can't make up our own minds about what to say, do, watch, whatever, and we can't take responsibility or blame for anything we do. It's always someone else's fault. Damn this culture to hell...
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Post by Dylan » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:48 am

Denyer wrote:Yes, because mainland Europe tends not to have the distinction the US does.
Thank you for stating that. :)

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Post by Obfleur » Wed Mar 09, 2005 9:48 am

Sometimes I grab a beer when I have dinner.
I think beer tastes good.
Sometimes I make myself a White russian and drink it while watching South Park or something.
Point being: I drink because it taste good.

But, sometimes I drink because I want to get drunk.
I have lots of fun when I'm sober. When I'm with some of my friends we laugh for five straight hours.
But you have a different kind of fun when you are drunk.
And I'm not embarrassed to straight out say "Yes, I'm currently drinking this to get drunk" (I only drink stuff that taste good though).

I cant go clubbing when I'm sober. I dont like it (people bumping into you, smoke, etc).
But when I'm drunk it's great. You ignore the bad stuff and concentrate on everything thats great.

But some people tend to have a problem with the whole "Yes I drink to get drunk. Weee".

Where the hell am I going with this? I dont know.
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Post by Nebbie » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:43 am

I have never been drunk. I'm kinda scared to get drunk cause I'm afraid I'll like it so much I'll try to get drunk all the time and alcoholism runs in my family. And it's expensive and I'm a broke college student.

I don't mind drinking, I just don't like the taste of most alcohol (especially beer YUCK!!) And I don't really care if you drink to get drunk or to have fun with friends or whatever. But if you try to get behind the wheel of a car then we've got problems.
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Post by Best First » Wed Mar 09, 2005 11:56 am

People who drink and drive are c***s. the end.
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Post by Obfleur » Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:02 pm

I do stupid things when I'm drunk (like smear dog poo all over the floor) - but I would never drive or something like that.
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Post by Legion » Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:02 pm

Denyer wrote:Dunno about you, but I don't feel under pressure to drink alcohol in bars if I don't feel like it...
That is my great weakness... i can't go to the pub and not have a drink.... well, I can... but it's well ******* difficult. Shouldn't be surprised... latent alcoholic that i am...

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Post by sprunkner » Wed Mar 09, 2005 4:50 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:You sick sick bastard!!
To further this along... not drinking was never the realy difficult part of the whole religious-kid life. It was the waiting twenty-three years of my life to have sex.

Yes I am. A very, very sick bastard.
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Post by Blacksword » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:34 pm

Aye the abstaining from sex thing is hard, especially when you have a girlfriend who you're gonna in all certainty marry. That is defintely tougher than not drinking. And no I am not a sick-sick bastard. ;)

As to drink, I'm too bloody poor to drink and as such I've had all of two possibly three beers since New Years. Plus I have a limited drivers license that requires me to have a zero blood alcohol level(cause I didn't really have an overwhelming need to drive until recently so I'm still on step two of Ontario's graduated licensing program), so a having a beer waiting an hour and driving isn't in the cards (just as a side bar I'd never drink any more than that or say two glasses of wine with dinner, and then drive later on in the night). But even if I had the money I couldn't see myself drinking that much. I get ripped with my good friends maybe once or twice a year now, and even that is losing its shine (partly cause none of us really drink much of the rest of the year, especially me, so getting ripped is now a risky proposition that last time around had me get sick in a rather embarassing fashion). It's fun but hell there are plenty of other fun things that don't involve killing brain cells or my liver.

For me part of it is I'm a take it or leave sort of person. Though I like having a few beers, some wine or liquor I could give them up. I've smoked tobacco (though not cigarettes) but I'll maybe smoke a cigar a couple times a year. Tobbacco on occasion is nice and creates nice atmosphere but I don't need it. Same thing with pot (though of the three my least favourite and one which I don't intend to partake of unless the laws change - breaking the law, even a stupid law (an unjust law is another thing) is a moral inconsistency I didn't like, especially when in my chosen career I'll be giving moral advice). There are an inifite number of experiences in this life and I think our culture has tended to elevate a few and create a culure around them beyond their inherent worth (aka drinking smoking and soft drug use). I've always found it interesting that people most often need an excuse to get together, rather then getting to gether simply for the reason of getting together. While I don't particularly find getting together over tea and crumpets particularly appealing myself, i wonder how many people who get together at a pub would do so at a tea party?

Me I'd rather the pub and pint of Guiness, but is it the people or the activity, or the climate that matters more. Just to be clear I ask a question levelled at society in general, not anyone here.
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The booze schedule is this:

Post by snarl » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:40 pm

Tonight I'm going out for a lovely glass of booze.

Tomorrow, I'm going out for a lovely glass of booze.

On Friday, first I'm going out for coffee with Lovely Maria who I intend to nail in the not too distant future, then I'm going out for a lovely glass of booze with my mates, none of whom I want to nail.

Saturday I will stay off the booze as I have a cup game on Sunday.
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Post by Denyer » Wed Mar 09, 2005 7:49 pm

Where do people get the idea law equals morality, anyway?

Okay, so I'm asking a rhetorical question. Circular logic is convenient (illegal because it's immoral and immoral because it's illegal) and most often an attempt to get people to shut up. "There must be a reason, but I can't be bothered or am unable to explain it."
getting together over tea and crumpets
Mmm. I do...

There are times I want to drink and want company, there are times I want company and couldn't care less what the setting is as long as it's quiet enough to permit conversation, there's some form of activity available and there's something potable. Strong tea is a favourite.

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Re: The booze schedule is this:

Post by Redstreak » Thu Mar 10, 2005 12:08 am

snarl wrote:Tonight I'm going out for a lovely glass of booze.

Tomorrow, I'm going out for a lovely glass of booze.

On Friday, first I'm going out for coffee with Lovely Maria who I intend to nail in the not too distant future, then I'm going out for a lovely glass of booze with my mates, none of whom I want to nail.

Saturday I will stay off the booze as I have a cup game on Sunday.
See now, that's the way to go. The man has a plan. 8)
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Post by Blacksword » Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:27 am

Denyer wrote:Where do people get the idea law equals morality, anyway?

Okay, so I'm asking a rhetorical question. Circular logic is convenient (illegal because it's immoral and immoral because it's illegal) and most often an attempt to get people to shut up. "There must be a reason, but I can't be bothered or am unable to explain it."
It's not that I regard smokingpot wrong because it's illegal. I think there's nothing wrong with moderate use of cannabis. That's why I think the law is foolish (that and it creates a prohibition scenario where organized crime makes gobs of money from production and distribution and enslaves impoverished families in urban and suburban grow ops). I have decide not to do it because it's illegal and one point in orthodox Christian doctrine is that we should follow the laws of society so long as those laws don't contradict God's laws (like legal slavery or discriminatory racial laws did). Breaking a law simply for personal enjoyment doesn't count. By rights I also should not break the speed limit or j-walk, but for now, giving up pot which I rarely used and wasn't more than luke warm about was a life-style change that I could make to be ethically more consistent. Plus it is rather counterproductive and hypocritical not to tell a teenager not to toke up when you did it say last month and will likely do so again.
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Post by Denyer » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:30 am

It's easier to tell teenagers that you think they'd be idiots if they smoke, and go into detail about potential side-effects. A pop-quiz on what other household products the chemicals found in tobacco can be found in is always a good one...

Genesis 1:30 / 1 Corinthians 9:25. The consumption of most plants is healthy in moderation, not to mention specifically willed to the Judeo-Christian god's creation.

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Re: No Booze for 2 weeks.

Post by Computron » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:55 am

Professor Smooth wrote:
Best First wrote:Can i do it? eh?
Sure ya can. Just keep plenty of salad and pink lemonade handy.
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Post by Best First » Thu Mar 10, 2005 10:31 am

failed!

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Post by snarl » Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:32 am

My boss isn't in tomorrow or today, so I'll be having lots more drinks of booze...

I have a litre of Smirnoff by my legs. Yoinks!
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Post by Best First » Thu Mar 10, 2005 11:35 am

Smirn-egg?
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Post by sprunkner » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:23 pm

Best First wrote:failed!

:)
But you tried. Which means you're one step closer to becoming a published author. With the proper amount of determination and alchoholism, you could be the next Poe or Kerouac. Your words will change the world and you will die at forty wetting yourself.
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Post by Dylan » Thu Mar 10, 2005 7:32 pm

sprunkner wrote:But you tried. Which means you're one step closer to becoming a published author. With the proper amount of determination and alchoholism, you could be the next Poe or Kerouac. Your words will change the world and you will die at forty wetting yourself.
That, regardless of context, is one of the most beautiful things ever posted on Transfans.

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Post by Impactor returns 2.0 » Thu Mar 10, 2005 9:12 pm

[composite word including 'f*ck'] not drinking just moderation

Ie. moderate yout time with your mates. by two pints at the bar so u can spend longer with your friends. also double up on spirits. u know it makes sense.
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Post by IronHide » Fri Mar 11, 2005 12:05 am

In an strange way.......yes......yes it does.

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Post by snarl » Fri Mar 11, 2005 7:07 am

Hurtsssssssssssssssss..............
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Post by Best First » Fri Mar 11, 2005 10:30 am

sprunkner wrote: Your words will change the world and you will die at forty wetting yourself.
50% correct my friend, 50% correct.
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Post by spiderfrommars » Fri Mar 11, 2005 11:05 am

Best First wrote:
sprunkner wrote: Your words will change the world and you will die at forty wetting yourself.
50% correct my friend, 50% correct.
You mean your words won't change the world? ;)

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