Nathan Barley

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Post by Best First » Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:23 pm

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Best First wrote:sorry but your condescending contribution means that i remain rather uninterested in discussing this with you.
Said the stainless contributor. Me giving a thumbs down to the first episode of "Nathan Barley" did not and does not equate to giving a thumbs down to 'Best First'.
never said it did - nicely spun out of thin air tho. well done you.
You really should have concentrated on debating the points of the show rather than getting needlessly defensive and emotional.
yeah - thats what happened. Maybe you should have concentated on debating the points of the show rather than trying to set yourself up as some kind of comedy connessur.
Thenceforth you've been incongruous with reasoned discussion of the show.
after your initial post i didn't really see any reason to be.
Best First wrote:i'd be far more willing to go into depth on subjects that i care more about, but in this case its not really worth my while considering the attitude you are exuding which is rather getting on my tits - hence bored now, see?
Then we're both bored.
So you don't necessarily care much about comedy. That's fine.
see - where do i say that? nowhere. Can we get past this ridiculous premise that i could only have enjoyed the program if i laughed out loud a lot? No, it seems we can't - one of the reasons this 'discussion' isn't proving particularly interesting to me.

and i'm sure i care about comedy just as much as you do mate. Maybe i'm just not as precious about it.
[You've nothing more to say on NB? Fine. Different degrees of interests and all that. But I'm quite interested in this particular subject, and so it's not surprizing that I've commented in some length on this comedy topic you started.
maybe i'm just ot very intersted in discussing it with you?
Finally, while you're checking on my 'attitude', you'd want to check yours while you're at it. If anything, your posts here don't cast you in a good light at all, and they indeed should bore you equally.
its called responding in kind mate. Maybe if you hadn't decided to patronise with your first post people might be a bit more interested in what you have to say... one to bear in mind for the future eh?
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Post by Brendocon » Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:25 pm

Best First wrote:its called responding in kind mate. Maybe if you hadn't decided to patronise with your first post people might be a bit more interested in what you have to say... one to bear in mind for the future eh?
:up:

You get what you give. As Gregg Alexander so eloquently mumbled.
Grrr. Argh.

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Post by Best First » Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:39 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Best First wrote:its called responding in kind mate. Maybe if you hadn't decided to patronise with your first post people might be a bit more interested in what you have to say... one to bear in mind for the future eh?
:up:

You get what you give. As Gregg Alexander so eloquently mumbled.
before going on to pen songs for Ronan Keating... :(

why do i even know that? damn.
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Post by Dead Head » Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:41 pm

Me giving a thumbs down to the first episode of "Nathan Barley" did not and does not equate to giving a thumbs down to 'Best First'.
never said it did - nicely spun out of thin air tho. well done you.
That was a sentence to be explicit on a distinction, not some 'spinning' as you insinuate.
You really should have concentrated on debating the points of the show rather than getting needlessly defensive and emotional.
yeah - thats what happened. Maybe you should have concentated on debating the points of the show rather than trying to set yourself up as some kind of comedy connessur.
I'm not an expert by any means but yes I discriminate with comedy shows. I had debated some of the points in not so terse detail in this thread, and would have continued had there been worthy reciprocation from you but there was not. You could have continued explaining your appreciation of it too if you hadn't got so needlessly worked up.
Thenceforth you've been incongruous with reasoned discussion of the show.
after your initial post i didn't really see any reason to be.
You got the hump, and refuse to see reason.
So you don't necessarily care much about comedy. That's fine.
see - where do i say that? nowhere.
This had implications:
i'd be far more willing to go into depth on subjects that i care more about
To me this implied you cared not so much for comedy. If that's not the case and you do have an avid interest in it, then fine. By the way, do you have an avid interest in comedy shows?
Can we get past this ridiculous premise that i could only have enjoyed the program if i laughed out loud a lot? No, it seems we can't - one of the reasons this 'discussion' isn't proving particularly interesting to me.
What's the deal with this 'premise'? That's your inexplicable imagined hangup. Nowhere did I say you didn't enjoy the program. I've only been speaking on my behalf, been speaking my opinion of the show.
and i'm sure i care about comedy just as much as you do mate. Maybe i'm just not as precious about it.
Maybe you do, maybe you don't, maybe you care less, maybe you care more. Though it didn't really seem like you did at the start of the thread. Specifically in the case of the arts, being discerning and appraising are positives. If we didn't cast a critical eye, we'd all rate the Vengaboys' music as life-affirming sublimity.
But I'm quite interested in this particular subject, and so it's not surprizing that I've commented in some length on this comedy topic you started.
maybe i'm just ot very intersted in discussing it with you?
Would this thread have been a deeper look at the funny and not-so-funny bits of the show had it proceeded in the vein of the first two posts? I think not. 'Well plastic' and 'SugaRape' ad nauseum more likely.
its called responding in kind mate. Maybe if you hadn't decided to patronise with your first post people might be a bit more interested in what you have to say... one to bear in mind for the future eh?
Not in kind, no. I posted that I disliked a good deal of the show. You disliked the damning points against the show in reply to your initial muted applause for NB. You got the hump and are swiftly going from a dromedary to a bactrian.

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Post by Best First » Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:05 pm

no... i disliked the manner in which you presented your points and couldn't be arsed debating with you thereafter.

I'm perfectly capable of debating things in more depth than i have but your initial post didn't inspire me to do so - raher to take issue with your tone which

thats it. see?

your attempt to broaden this into something about how i feel about comedy as a whole or how we should deal with the arts or indeed tell me what mood i'm in and how i'm feeling are quite entertaining tho. Thanks for that.

try starting a converstaion in a more civilised manner and see how things work out next time mate, kay?
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Post by Dead Head » Wed Feb 16, 2005 5:19 pm

your attempt to broaden this into something about how i feel about comedy as a whole
How frangible you are. What are you on? I'm not governing your feelings about anything.
or how we should deal with the arts or indeed tell me what mood i'm in and how i'm feeling are quite entertaining tho. Thanks for that.
The voices in your head again it seems. No, thank you.

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Post by Guest » Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:16 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Dead Head wrote:At it's core, a comedy should make you laugh
Actually, at its core, a comedy is something with a happy ending. Being that there are two types of play - a comedy or a tragedy.
Three, actually.
Brendocon wrote:Think how many jokes there are in Shakespeare's comedies. Yeah, exactly.
You quote the bard and yet you conveniently forgot his histories.

EDIT:

Oh, there was a second page to this topic.

Oh well!

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Post by spiderfrommars » Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:18 pm

Tragi-Comedy?

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Post by Guest » Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:45 pm

spiderfrommars wrote:Tragi-Comedy?
Romance and adventure with intergalactic politics in the background. ;)

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Post by Best First » Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:49 am

Dead Head wrote:
your attempt to broaden this into something about how i feel about comedy as a whole
How frangible you are. What are you on? I'm not governing your feelings about anything.
or how we should deal with the arts or indeed tell me what mood i'm in and how i'm feeling are quite entertaining tho. Thanks for that.
The voices in your head again it seems. No, thank you.
Ishin?
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Post by Brendocon » Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:53 am

Rebis wrote:You quote the bard and yet you conveniently forgot his histories.
Aah, but do histories not have either happy or sad endings?

Or perhaps I discounted them, for they are factually based and I was referring to fiction (though this was unspecified, to somebody of your intellect it should have been obvious?).

Or perhaps I was winging it and didn't bother to check my facts... my point still stands though. Comedy originally equated to happy ending. Baaaa!
Grrr. Argh.

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Post by Dead Head » Thu Feb 17, 2005 10:30 am

Best First wrote:Ishin?
Bless you.

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Post by Guest » Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:34 am

Brendocon wrote:
Rebis wrote:You quote the bard and yet you conveniently forgot his histories.
Aah, but do histories not have either happy or sad endings?

Or perhaps I discounted them, for they are factually based and I was referring to fiction (though this was unspecified, to somebody of your intellect it should have been obvious?).

Or perhaps I was winging it and didn't bother to check my facts... my point still stands though. Comedy originally equated to happy ending. Baaaa!
Oh, right. the Janus thing: Happy/laughing face - comedy, Sad/crying face - tragedy.

(with a Clock face for histories ;)).

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