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Post by **Best First** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:09 am

"Robbie Williams' Glastonbury-conquering anthem Angels was declared the best song of the past 25 years"

**** off!

better suggestions please.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:16 am

Anything by Radiohead. I believe they have never won a Brit Award.

Williams has apparently won far more Brit awards than any other artist. Its a disgrace.

I was there in the crowd at Glastonbury when he sang Angels in '98. I was the one shaking my head in disbelief and embracing the death of British rock. Whilst standing knee-deep in a puddle of slimy mud.

Post by **Best First** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:18 am

Angels is a good pop song - i have no issue with that as a concept - but thats it.

Hmm. Paranoid Android?

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:20 am

Best First wrote:"Robbie Williams' Glastonbury-conquering anthem Angels was declared the best song of the past 25 years"

As voted for by listeners of Radio 2.

Nuff said, really.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:28 am

Best First wrote:Angels is a good pop song - i have no issue with that as a concept - but thats it.

Yep, thats where it ends.

Hmm, last 25 years? Other suggestions...

Bittersweet Sympony - The Verve
Live Forever - Oasis
Parklife - Blur
Design for Life - Manics
Firestarter - Prodigy
Under the Bridge - Chili Peppers
I Am the Ressurection - Stone Roses
Ashes to Ashes - David Bowie
Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana
Unfinished Sympathy - Massive Attack
How Soon Is Now - The Smiths
Common People - Pulp
Paranoid Android - Radiohead
Billie Jean - Wacko Jacko
Like A Prayer - Madge

I could go on. I really could.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:39 am

spiderfrommars wrote:Under the Bridge - Chili Peppers
Smells Like Teen Spirit - Nirvana
Billie Jean - Wacko Jacko
Like A Prayer - Madge

Don't qualify. The award was for best song of the last 25 years by a British artist. Because it's the Brits and everything.

No, Madonna doesn't count. Regardles of what she tells you.

Final voting was between Robbie and...

Love Will Tear Us Apart - Joy Division
We Are The Champions - Queen
Wuthering Heights - Kate Bush
Leave Right Now - Will Young

Having been whittled down from a shortlist that also included:

Night Fever - Bee Gees
London Calling - Clash
Heroes - David Bowie
That's Entertainment - The Jam
I Don't Want To Talk About It - Rod Stewart
Look of Love - ABC
Golden Brown - The Stranglers
True - Spandau Ballet
Careless Whisper - George Michael
Holding Back The Years - Simply Red
Sledgehammer - Peter Gabriel
Sacrifice - Elton John
Unfinished Sympathy - Massive Attack
Why - Annie Lennox
Fields of Gold - Sting
Kiss From A Rose - Seal
Wonderwall - Oasis
Yellow - Coldplay
Babylon - David Gray
Dry Your Eyes - The Streets

That's Radio 2 listeners for you, really. Still, rather they'd done it than Radio 1, otherwise Busted would have picked up the accolade...

Pissin' Poonani · Post by **Pissin' Poonani** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:51 am

Angels? Rubbish. Everybody knows it's 'Let Me Entertain You'.

Failing that:

Strawberry sh*t face - 'Gossport Binding Disaster'

The Roy Walker collective - 'Say whatcha see, on the 1,2,3'

Dave Dave Dave - 'I only meant to shoot you in the spleen'

Prophet Profit - 'Fish it out with a coat hanger (Club-dub-redub-studio-remix)'

Da Indaviduoolz - 'Strayt from Chelmzfurd'

Paving Slab - 'You c*nt'

The Secret Life of Tufty McTwitten - 'Fuzzy Felts and Kit-Kats'

Sorry.

Post by **Best First** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 11:56 am

We could be Kings - Gene

that does it for me.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:02 pm

Anything by Queen or Radiohead totally woops Robbie's ass.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:27 pm

Brendocon wrote:
Final voting was between Robbie and...

Love Will Tear Us Apart - Joy Division
We Are The Champions - Queen
Wuthering Heights - Kate Bush
Leave Right Now - Will Young

Having been whittled down from a shortlist that also included:

Night Fever - Bee Gees
London Calling - Clash
Heroes - David Bowie
That's Entertainment - The Jam
I Don't Want To Talk About It - Rod Stewart
Look of Love - ABC
Golden Brown - The Stranglers
True - Spandau Ballet
Careless Whisper - George Michael
Holding Back The Years - Simply Red
Sledgehammer - Peter Gabriel
Sacrifice - Elton John
Unfinished Sympathy - Massive Attack
Why - Annie Lennox
Fields of Gold - Sting
Kiss From A Rose - Seal
Wonderwall - Oasis
Yellow - Coldplay
Babylon - David Gray
Dry Your Eyes - The Streets

That's Radio 2 listeners for you, really. Still, rather they'd done it than Radio 1, otherwise Busted would have picked up the accolade...

Oh my God its worse than I thought.

Will Young in the Final Five???

And Robbie won a place in the British Music Hall of Fame as best 90s artist. ****!!

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:43 pm

I much prefer Come Undone by Robbie...but yeah, pretty much anything by Queen is superior.

Also:

Kill Your Television by Ned's Atomic Dustbin
The Asphalt World by Suede
Love Spreads by the Stone Roses
The Fuses Have Been Lit by PWEI
Say Eh Oh by The Teletubbies...

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:47 pm

Metal Vendetta wrote:Say Eh Oh by The Teletubbies...

FAR FAR FAR FAR superior to any **** that Robbie "The ****" Williams could every dream of putting out, even in his most self obsessed wet dreams...

Dead Head · Post by **Dead Head** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:51 pm

I am envious of Robbie Williams' considerable wealth and associated power.

However, I am not envious of his utter lack of "songwriting" ability, his soulless boyband heritage, his arrogant self-satisfied nature, his average singing voice, and his inexplicable undeserved pop music following.

Some people were brainwashed by Take That/Robbie Williams from the very start. But whats really galling is that the rest of the 'public at large' followed suit, since Williams has seemingly survived this long in pop music wearing his 'emperor clothes'. Until such time as he magically finds the ability to write interesting and arresting music, I'll never accept Robbie Williams as anything other than an average pop singer who went on to write completely banal, awful, and unoriginal songs.

As for "Angels" itself... insightful, heartfelt, and inspired? No. INSIPID is the word to describe it. It's a song for people who don't really like music. A song for people who don't really have a music collection, but whose 3CD changer in their car has Robbie Williams, Dido, and Usher on rotation. A song for the kind of people who have the crazy frog sound as their ringtone. And they probably listen to 'zany' morning radio DJs who play the latest billboard chart dross.

<mork_from_ork> HEAVY SIGH </mork_from_ork>

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 1:59 pm

Dead Head wrote:I'll never accept Robbie Williams as anything other than an average pop singer who went on to write completely banal, awful, and unoriginal songs.

Guy Chambers, on the other hand, has written some cracking pop tunes.

Post by **spiderfrommars** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:12 pm

How many?

Legion · Post by **Legion** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:12 pm

Dead Head wrote:A song for the kind of people who have the crazy frog sound as their ringtone.

Don't get me started on that ******* thing...

Dead Head · Post by **Dead Head** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:22 pm

Brendocon wrote:Guy Chambers, on the other hand, has written some cracking pop tunes.

I know he co-wrote "Come As You Are" (no, not that grunge one) with Bev Knight. That was an okay song. And he worked with Skin on "Lost".

On the flipside, he's also worked with "Take That" Robbie Williams, "Westlife" Br[i/y]an McFadden, Delta Goddrem, Jewel Kilcher, "98 Degrees" Nick Lachey, 'Pop Idol' Will Young, "S Club 7" Rachel Stevens, Busted, and Natasha Bedingfield, which all seems very ominous to me.

What are some particularly noteworthy examples of good songs he wrote/co-wrote?

Eline · Post by **Eline** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:24 pm

Legion wrote:
Dead Head wrote:A song for the kind of people who have the crazy frog sound as their ringtone.
Don't get me started on that ******* thing...

We have one person in our office who has that ringtone. He like to go away while leaving his phone on his desk...

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 2:36 pm

We have a guy in our office who loves that...and the best way to wind him up is to call it a frog, because his cry of "IT'S NOT A FROG, IT'S AN ALIEN DAMMIT!!!!!!" can be heard on the other side of London

angloconvoy · Post by **angloconvoy** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:40 pm

Thing about the frog is that I remember the first time I heard it, it was on the tv ad, and I thought it was hilarious. Two days later after seeing the ad about 30 times I was ready to smash the tv any time it came on.

Obfleur · Post by **Obfleur** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:44 pm

I hate that ************** frog.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:45 pm

Have you heard the dance mix of the frog?

It's like Mr Oizo all over again, but somehow even less funny...

Post by **snarl** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:46 pm

I love the tragic way radio 2 attempted to gain credibility by throwing in token songs from a few respected artists.

"Oh, this is the be all and end all, it is credible - look, Bowie! LOOK! BOWIE LOOK!"

It really annoys me when people do that.

Radio 2, you really annoy me.

2 songs I really, really like and probably will for evers are

Enjoy the Silence:
http://s17.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1F44 ... J7M7T6VKKT

and

The Killing Moon:
http://s19.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=0DH8 ... UARGG86IRY

Dead Head · Post by **Dead Head** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:49 pm

Obfleur wrote:I hate that ************** frog.

14 letters. Let's play Wheel Of Fortune. Give me an 'M'.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:50 pm

[GUY FROM MY WORK]IT'S NOT A FROG IT'S AN ALIEN DAMMIT!!!!![/GUY FROM MY WORK]

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 3:56 pm

That frog ****s me off, its cheeply animated and the sound effects means nothing. the whole concept is just utterly *****. I hate things like that.

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:16 pm

The sound effect has been knocking around the internet for years now...why someone thought it was a good idea to revive it is beyond me.

Brendocon · Post by **Brendocon** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:18 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4210407.stm

Metal Vendetta · Post by **Metal Vendetta** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 4:39 pm

I don't know if I can apologise

should read

I don't know if I can apologise enough

Impactor returns 2.0 · Post by **Impactor returns 2.0** » Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:37 pm

I actually really like Angels...

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