Hiesman thoughts?

Powermaster Optimus Prime · Post by **Powermaster Optimus Prime** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:34 am

Who ya votin for?

I gotta go with Leinart. Reggie Bush is the best player in the country, but he doesnt get enough touches. I like Cedric Benson too.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:36 am

reggie bush is amazing.. Leinert is as good as the rest of his offense lets him be.

Jason White got it handed to him after winning the last one hehe

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IronHide · Post by **IronHide** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 7:53 am

Yeah, but look at Peterson's stats. He's broken so many records and he's only a Freshman. I hate OU, but the guy is good.

Powermaster Optimus Prime · Post by **Powermaster Optimus Prime** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 5:12 pm

IronHide wrote:Yeah, but look at Peterson's stats. He's broken so many records and he's only a Freshman. I hate OU, but the guy is good.

I know it's unfair, I just cant give it to a freshman. And I hate OU too!

Powermaster Optimus Prime · Post by **Powermaster Optimus Prime** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 3:00 am

called it

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 4:13 am

Makes two of us.

Redstreak · Post by **Redstreak** » Sun Dec 12, 2004 5:14 am

I've got a nutty idea since the complaints about its tendency to go to RBs and QBs kept coming up this year...hold the other awards show earlier, as the votes are tabulated quite in advance of this, maybe push this ceremony back while you're at it, and have the nominees be the ppl who are voted the best at their position; like the guy who wins the Butkus award, the Doak Walker award, etc. So it then truly becomes representative of the best college player, since the guy gets picked from the best college players.

Not surprised to see Leinart win, either.

Galvatron91 · Post by **Galvatron91** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:02 am

Can't say I was all that surprised to see Leinart win it either. Jason White had a great year, but I think that Peterson's play may have actually took a bit of his luster away, and let's face it a freshman will not win it.

Dylan · Post by **Dylan** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:31 am

Cool. I still have no idea what this topic is about.

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 4:14 am

The Heisman trophy is given to the most outstanding college football [American football] player each year. It's a bit unfair as it tends to always go to a "skill" position, but generally they're the ones making big plays. OTs seem to have problems making those plays.

Powermaster Optimus Prime · Post by **Powermaster Optimus Prime** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:08 am

Its basically the most prestigious award in American Sports.

Leatherneck · Post by **Leatherneck** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:17 am

Meh. Cy Young award, despite there being two.

Redstreak · Post by **Redstreak** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:36 am

Powermaster Optimus Prime wrote:Its basically the most prestigious award in American Sports.

Well, American Collegiate sports anyway.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:06 am

it also means that you have a 90% chance of sucking in the pro's, but they will pay you ungodly amounts for that 10% chance of you being amazing. Eli Manning anyone?

On the flip side, Ben Roethisberger (sp), wasnt he a LATE 1st rounder? Yeah hes a bit good.

Dylan · Post by **Dylan** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 7:27 am

Oh ok! Thanks for the newsflash.

Powermaster Optimus Prime · Post by **Powermaster Optimus Prime** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 5:43 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:it also means that you have a 90% chance of sucking in the pro's, but they will pay you ungodly amounts for that 10% chance of you being amazing. Eli Manning anyone?

On the flip side, Ben Roethisberger (sp), wasnt he a LATE 1st rounder? Yeah hes a bit good.

Neither one of those guys won the trophy, though...and Carson Palmer is doing quite well. Although yes youre right he is in that 10%. Ron Dayne, anyone?

And LNeck, not to take anything away from Cy Young winners, but its not at elite as winning the Heisman.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 6:26 pm

good point, though they were all finalists, right? I cant remember if Roethlisberger was or not

Powermaster Optimus Prime · Post by **Powermaster Optimus Prime** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 9:40 pm

Optimus Prime Rib wrote:good point, though they were all finalists, right? I cant remember if Roethlisberger was or not

Roethlisberger wasnt there, although he could have been. It was White, Manning, Chris Perry, and Larry Fitzgerald.

To Leatherneck again, its definitely not the Cy Young.

To win the Cy Young, you can only play one position, not to mention pitchers have like 15 years to chase it. As for the Heisman, a player can play any position, he only has 4 shots at it, and there is a much, much greater competition. Also, there is only one given out per year.

Optimus Prime Rib · Post by **Optimus Prime Rib** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 10:01 pm

lets be honest, you technically can play any position, but realistically you have to play QB or RB in order to have a real shot at winning. Larry Fitzgerald should have won by a long shot last year. I cant remember who the last defensive player was. Desmond Howard?

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